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I'm using the same user name on both Wikipedia.org and da.Wikipedia.org - how do I merge the two?[edit]

I'm using the same username on two wikimedias wikier. Both accounts has been registered using the same e-mail address (I just checked and verified my e-mail on both en.wikipedia.org and da.wikipedia.org).

How do I get you to merge the user name (singular - it's the same on bot site) instead of giving me a NEW user name, into one account?

RipRapRob (talk) 23:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

They are already merged. You have a global account, so your account will not be renamed, see Special:CentralAuth/RipRapRob. Regards, --Stryn (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I just got a bunch of emails about the account rename thingy. The question remains; how do I merge the accounts? Some are registered with the same email address, others with different email address. I bet I'm the only real person with my username (though, at least one of the accounts are connected to an old invalid email address and I don't remember my password). 2001:840:F000:4250:5E26:AFF:FE39:BD0A 05:04, 18 March 2015 (UTC) (Tobixen on other wikis)
Currently, only you can do that by submitting your password at en:Special:MergeAccount. Once stewards got the account merge tool, they can also merge two or more global account. For doing that, we do need a confirmation of all accounts to be merged. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 11:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
My problem is that the only password/email I've actually lost is the one for the English wikipedia ... which appears to be the "master" in this setup. How do I resolve this? 2001:840:F000:4250:5E26:AFF:FE39:BD0A 09:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC) (Tobixen)
If there's no email set and you forgot your password, it'll be almost impossible to recover your account. If you can provide other proof of identity, that might help though. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

User (talk) page redirects[edit]

I don't understand[edit]

See also: Wikimedia Forum#Username changes and Talk:Single User Login finalisation announcement#Bug?

I have a global account with multiple attached accounts and a large edit count. But for some reason I got a notice at Commons only that my account there would be renamed. Kelly (talk) 02:55, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@Keegan (WMF): ping. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:38, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
@Kelly: The script made a mistake. It wanted to notify Kelly1 of the upcoming rename as the eswiki user got the global account: Special:CentralAuth/Kelly1. Unfortunately, the script was forwarded by the redirect to your talk page where it confused Kelly and Kelly1 by adding {{subst:PAGENAME}}. Don't worry about losing your commonswiki Kelly account. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 09:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Ah, many thanks! Kelly (talk) 13:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Bug?[edit]

See also: Wikimedia Forum#Username changes and #I don't understand

SUL Info tool says "There are no unattached account with this username" for the account "André Koehne". However, the user was notified that his account will be renamed.

  • Will his account really be renamed? If so, what is the other account causing the conflict? or
  • Or maybe this was just an error in the script, e.g. because of the redirect from "User talk:Conhecer" to "User talk:André Koehne" (as above)? (notice that there are local accounts named "Conhecer"

Helder 13:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The latter is correct. Same problem as above. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 17:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Do I need to worry? I got the notification on my wikiquote talk page but not on my wikipedia page. Are they the same account now? Or does the bot still want to rename the wikiquote identity? -- SpareSimian (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@SpareSimian: Your global account is complete, none of your local accounts will be renamed. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 22:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

do not understand why name change[edit]

Hi, I have received that my account will be renamed. My account dates from the very start of Wikipedia & Co and is a SUL-account on allmost all wikis. A few like DE Wikipedia is user 'Walter' someone else. But since many years my account user:Walter has been my name on nearly all wikis, also on Meta en NL Wikipedia where I was one of the very first users registered. Can someone explain me what is going on please ? --Walter (talk) 09:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I have requested to rename the accounts blocking my migration Steward_requests/Username_changes#Walter.40global --Walter (talk) 11:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
@Walter: As you are the global account owner, none of your accounts will be renamed. There's probably a bug with the script like in the section before. Where did you get that message so that I can examine the problem? Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 11:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the good news! I would not like it to lose my account name. I have received the message on my home-wiki; nl:Overleg_gebruiker:Walter#Uw_gebruikersnaam_wordt_gewijzigd , also here on Meta but strangely not on my talkpage but User talk:Wa1ter - so far I know I do not own that account. -> L = 1 . Other projects I am not aware of but it could be. Not on commons at least. --Walter (talk) 11:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
This redirect (which was followed to Walter's user talk page) seems to have caused the confusion. There are several similar cases on fiwiki; see the thread "Why a fiwiki bureaucrat with global account was delivered a message with rename warning?" that I started on the global renamers mailing list. –Ejs-80 11:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I had the same question, glad to see it was some kind of mistake caused by a redirect. Paul B (talk) 12:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

But there all me![edit]

I got a note on the Commons Wiki advising that a new name had been reserved for me to allow another account Softgrow to continue to edit on Commons. However I am the one and the same with me changing from Softgrow in 2008. Are you able to merge my old name in or resolve my confusion. I'm happy just being myself. Alex Sims (talk) 02:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

and on the ja wiki as well Alex Sims (talk) 02:58, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
The problem is that the notification bot follows redirects, and ja:利用者‐会話:Softgrow redirects to your talk page. Looking at ja:特別:アカウント統一管理/Softgrow, you will see that 'Softgrow' has SUL conflicts on Japanese Wikipedia and Commons and will be renamed. These notifications were incorrectly given to 'Alex Sims' instead. --Stefan2 (talk) 03:05, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Two different usernames[edit]

I got the renaming announcement for an account I didn't even remember I have. My global account is en:User:Radulfr and the other one is wikibooks:fi:User:Radwulf. Can they be merged somehow? I do remember the password for both accounts. Radulfr (talk) 13:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@Radulfr: An account merge tool has been developed but unfortunately it needs further bug fixing. We expect it to be ready in about six weeks. Please drop us a note in two months where both accounts confirm the merge action. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 17:16, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Radulfr (talk) 17:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Please merge accounts that have the same email address attached to them or allow users to merge them themselves if no email address has been attached yet. This gives a lot of duplicate accounts that will never be used again and edit history will get scattered amongst those accounts. 92.68.11.26

The former was done by the Wikimedia Foundation, the latter was recommended to the users (afaik). Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 17:16, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I also have almost the same situation but I'm using the account ru:User:Rex that has to be renamed because it's not global. I have the global account ru:User:Alex Rex but I'm not using it now, just put a redirect in my native wiki. But if I have to rename my active account I'd better prefer merge it with my other empty global account. How can it be done? You're talking about six weeks but your announcement declares the deadline in this april. Can I be in time in this case? 212.92.133.194 07:46, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Possible to get a list of other wiki's with my username?[edit]

I use "mauirixxx" everywhere, though I'm curious what other Wikimedia wiki's I registered with - I honestly don't remember creating an account on either www OR meta - but my username & password is the same on both sites. Is there any way I can check or get a list of other wiki's I registered with that's owned by Wikimedia? Mauirixxx (talk) 20:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

See Special:CentralAuth/Mauirixxx. –Ejs-80 21:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki scripts that pre-date single user login[edit]

Both Template namespace initialisation script and MediaWiki default received rename notices on their English Wikipedia talk pages, but they should probably not be renamed. Part of the problem is that the user ID number associated with most of their edits in the Wikipedia database is 0, so they aren't counted in the regular edit count (and can't be viewed through the user contributions page either. Perhaps there should be a blacklist of such account names that shouldn't be renamed. Graham87 (talk) 08:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

And edits where the recorded user ID is 0 won't be renamed anyway. This would effect users from the UseModWiki era on the English Wikipedia (before 25 January 2002); see this API output for an example. Graham87 (talk) 08:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Legoktm manually attached the unattached local accounts of several of these script accounts to their respective global account yesterday. (FuzzyBot, MediaWiki default, Babel AutoCreate, MediaWiki message delivery). I don't think we need to do this for accounts which were only used in the past. --Glaisher (talk) 11:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree with Graham87, those accounts should not be renamed to avoid confusion, whatever the concrete effect. MediaWiki default was already merged, while Template namespace initialisation script was assigned to a vandal. Both accounts are actually fake, registered in 2006: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/stalktoy/Template%20namespace%20initialisation%20script The global account should probably be deleted and then both local and global accounts merged/usurped to an email address like noc@wikimedia.org, IMHO. --Nemo 11:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Efficacy of notifications in various languages[edit]

The edit count shows that the last notifications will soon be sent. It's interesting to compare visits from/to various languages. For instance es and it were notified around the same time; es has twice as many notified users and about 10 % of the total.

Of course an higher amount of visits might mean anything: an higher understanding of the message; lower understanding and need of further information; higher difficulty of the average case; more reachable users (e.g. more functioning email addresses); higher rate of language recognition and correct redirection by mw:ULS; ... Probably, however, translation had an impact; we should try to understand how it worked.

Some languages were also heavily customised, in particular German which mentioned "local" stewards. Not much effect so far [1] but the notifications are ongoing. --Nemo 11:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Also interesting:

MergeAccount got twice as many visits as GlobalRenameRequest, which probably means many users were able to find their answers there? Biggest wikis rather similar in number of visits, except fr.wiki (similar to de) and nl.wiki/ja.wiki (one third) which got very few. I notice that nl and ja had a bare link to the special page, without a link label; maybe that scares people who don't know what a special page link is? --Nemo 08:02, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Confusing messages[edit]

Hi, I had an account on wikidata with a different name, but when I realized that all the accounts with the same names could be merged and that someone else had that name on a different wiki, I asked (I think in chat) for that account name to be changed to match this one and someone did it. That all worked great. But today I got an email about the old account name explaining the whole process of renaming ... but that account really should not exist. I think for me it doesn't matter, I can just ignore it, but it is a very confusing message for me and probably will be for others. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcsmom (talk)

It would be easier to us if you can tell of which accounts you are talking about. At least your account Mcsmom will not be renamed. --Stryn (talk) 14:00, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Confused[edit]

Did you actually whether some of the people are actually the same person? For instance, I use "Junes" on nl, en, Commons and this site (though I only edit on en, and then only sporadically). But I only got the message on Commonms and nl. I'm thinking that maybe the "other" person is actually myself. And how am I going to tie al my accounts together? This is thorougly confusing. Junes (talk) 13:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Junes, you already have a global account so you can keep your current username. All of your accounts have been merged together. --Stryn (talk) 13:58, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Ah, great, thanks! I'm not the one editing on the Russian Wikipedia though. Junes (talk) 15:09, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh wait, I see they are 'not attached'. Junes (talk) 15:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Yep, they are not attached to your global account. Users like the one on Russian Wikipedia will be renamed in April and after this you can use your username on every WMF projects. --Stryn (talk) 15:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Please keep my global account under my name[edit]

I want to keep my username (User:C on the english wiki).

The only other account with my name is an indefinitely blocked user on the Vietnamese wiki, who is unlikely to edit again.

https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:C

Thanks. --C~ptwiki (talk) 00:17, 23 March 2015 (UTC) (User:C)

Keeping username[edit]

I just received notice that I would be forced to change usernames and would very much like to keep my username, or be the global account holder. When I tried to check at Special:CentralAuth/Monto, it appears a Japanese Wiki user might hold the global account, when I signed up for my account several years earlier (2006 vs the Japanese user's 2009).

Is there an arbitration process whereby I can reconcile my username without being forced to rename? Just located the Stewards page

Thank you
--Monto~temp (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC) (User:Monto)

Previously acquired the account of the candidate[edit]

Please tell me. When was forced renamed plan XXX~jawiki is accidentally been acquired earlier, what name do you are forced renamed?--アルトクール(jaWN / jaWP) 10:12, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

See forceRenameUsers.php (blob) or forceRenameUsers.php (raw). --Burthsceh (talk) 10:18, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Thank you.--アルトクール(jaWN / jaWP) 18:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Unknown account ( "(usurped)" suffix )[edit]

I got an email announcing my upcoming user name change. The problem is that it talking about an account I never created: commons:User_talk:Nobelium_(usurped). Perhaps I should mention, that: 1) my account on commons was renamed from de.Nobelium to Nobelium and 2) as far as I can remember, I took over the control of an existing account on the english wikipedia (previous user hasn't changed a thing). To be honest I don't care about such an user name renaming and only want to mention it. --Nobelium (talk) 15:05, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, I don't know why did you get an email if you don't even own the usurped account on Commons. The account on Commons got the renaming notice on user's talk page because there is also User:Nobelium (usurped) on the English Wikipedia (owner of the global account). --Stryn (talk) 16:21, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

"Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account…"[edit]

Huh? Not only is there no other user with my username, but I have around 160,000 edits under this name, over a nine-year period, so I find it rather improbable that anyone else has a better claim on it. (The only unattached account under this name is a de-wiki impersonator account with an edit count of zero.)

If this isn't the right place to ask, please point me in the right direction—the notification doesn't have a "who do I talk to if the SUL audit software's screwed up" button. —Iridescent (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

You can just ignore the message that you got on Commons. Your account will not be renamed as you're already owner of the global account. --Stryn (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Therẹ̣̣’s still something wrong with this picture. First I thought that this redirect would explain the erraneous message, but the user name in that message is Iridescent, not Iridescenti. And Iridescent@commons was attached in 2008, not recently. –Ejs-80 19:34, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
You're right. I do not have any reasonable answer to this. --Stryn (talk) 19:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
The original informational massmessage used {{subst:PAGENAME}} but was modified to use correct target name during the bug fix, which explains why some of the messages contain right user name and others snatched the name from the user talk page (this was discussed on the global renamers mailing list). –Ejs-80 06:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
You can compare with two examples where two noticeboards will get new user names. At c:Special:PermanentLink/153575200#Your account will be renamed, it seems that {{subst:PAGENAME}} was used. At Special:PermanentLink/11598114#Your account will be renamed, the currect user name was used (but it still looks as if the noticeboard is going to be renamed). --Stefan2 (talk) 23:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
And what about this: Special:Centralauth claims that Iridescent@dewiki (account on de.wikipedia.org, not attached) has 0 edits, when that’s obviosly not true. –Ejs-80 19:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
It's because of the import tool. The tool is such a mess. See also Help_talk:Import#Importing_pages_should_be_disabled_or_improved. --Stryn (talk) 19:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
OK, that explains that part. –Ejs-80 19:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Renaming two national accounts[edit]

I am registered in English and Russian domains as Y2000. Unfortunately this login collides with some Korean user. So, I attempted to alter the login to Andreyz2000. It works fine in English domain (at least I got message “Your username change request is currently in progress”) but Russian domain refuses to accept new login. Is it due to my English request? What shall be done in such a situation? 85.229.249.94 07:34, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello, there's not any user called "Andreyz2000" Okay, you just left the rename request and it's been processed now, some patience please ;). Now you can ask us to move your account on the Russian Wikipedia under the same name. To do so, write a confirmation message on your Russian WP user or talk page using Y2000 account. Then go to m:SRUC and leave a request there. --Stryn (talk) 07:52, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Admin-merged accounts[edit]

I have noticed on Special:CentralAuth/Otets that an account can be admin-merged. Is there any guide on how this can be done? I am an administrator of Ukrainian Wikipedia and I have made a list of users who definitely own accounts in both Ukrainian Wikipedia and their home wiki (e.g. they have interwiki links both ways) but have not merged them, like, for example, Special:CentralAuth/Robin Hood. It would be unfortunate to rename such users as they clearly own all accounts in this name but do not have an email on their most active wiki (in case of Robin Hood, this user has an active email on most wikis except frwiki where he got the SUL). Could anyone explain please how an admin can merge such accounts? This would be a good solution for such kind of users. Thanks — NickK (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

No answer... @Keegan (WMF): Is there any information about that? — NickK (talk) 02:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Is this actually happening?[edit]

Last weekend's announcement said that it was to start today. Have some accounts actually been renamed? Is there a log somewhere showing progress? --B (talk) 22:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, few clashes on testwiki and the like have been resolved. Further progress can be named by Legoktm. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes. We were just taking our time and going very slow on the testwikis to find and squash bugs (which we did!). Legoktm (talk) 02:48, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Hopely, I had been waiting since march 30, no progress afterward —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.58.183.135 (talk)
  • @Legoktm, DerHexer: Is there anything about this process that would cause me to keep getting logged out? It's not happening every time I close my browser or anything like that, but if I'm gone for a long period of time, I keep having to log back in. I use my User:B account on Firefox and my User:UserB account (which I have to use on Commons because User:B there is someone else) on Chrome. I'm only experiencing the problem with my User:B account. I don't think it's a problem with my browser, because when I return to the login screen, it knows to prompt me with "B" for my username. So what I wondered is if maybe when it merges an account, it resets the login cookie for security purposes or something like that? (This has only started happening in the last couple of days.) --B (talk) 11:52, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
    @B: Actually logout seems to happen when an account on another wiki is being renamed. I was also logged out yesterday when an account with my name on another wiki was renamed. I don't think if it's a bug or a feature, but looks like every rename of a local account logs out the respective SUL — NickK (talk) 01:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
    @B: yes, if you happen to visit a Wikimedia site while the account is being renamed (a <2 minute window usually) you will be logged out in order to prevent any autocreations from happening accidentally while the rename is in progress. Legoktm (talk) 23:00, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
    It happened too often to just be that. (It happened maybe 10 times that I only visited maybe two of the wikis where I did not previously own my name - Commons and the French Wikipedia.) In any event, I assume it's over with so ... umm ... problem solved. ;) --B (talk) 21:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Auto-merge renamed one of my accounts erroneously[edit]

I got the notification “MediaWiki message delivery left a message on your talk page” and when I visited my page on wiktionary, it had already been renamed https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:Ohnobinki%7Eenwiktionary . So I went to Special:MergeAccount and it said it had found some accounts. Then I went to log into wiktionary. It went through the meta login and created a new “Ohnobinki” account for me there. Please delete the new wiktionary account and merge the Ohnobinki~enwiktionary back with my account. Also, how many tildes am I supposed to use—or is that automatic nowadays? Ohnobinki (talk) 14:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Renames over imported edits' usernames[edit]

Hello, I'm not sure this is the proper place to mention it, but I will give it a try. I have noticed a bug on articles, that have been copied (with edit history) into another wiki and translated. I believe compatibility across wikis was one of the primamy aims of unified accounts. My example can be seen on this contributions link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beiträge/Andreas_Müller%7Edewiki. The edits from 2010 and onwards are actually mine, not Andreas Müller~dewiki's, but miscredited, because after the import of the Danish article into the German wiki, he was the one with my name on the German wiki, and the credit was automatically linked with his account. Is this something that can be looked at centrally (for example, checking and referencing usernames on the original wiki, if an article has been copied?). Many greetings and thanks for the good work with the unified logins! --Andreas Müller (talk) 08:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

This is a problem specific to de.wiki, which for a while has had this terrible and legally redundant habit of duplicating revision information. That said, if you are right, it seems we had a bug with the import tool, because the rev_user is supposed to be 0, while it was assigned to the local user:
MariaDB [dewiki_p]> select rev_id, rev_user_text, rev_user from revision where rev_page = 7458434 and rev_user_text LIKE 'Andreas%';
+-----------+------------------------+----------+
| rev_id    | rev_user_text          | rev_user |
+-----------+------------------------+----------+
| 112370348 | Andreas Müller~dewiki  |    20718 |
| 112370349 | Andreas Müller~dewiki  |    20718 |
| 112370350 | Andreas Müller~dewiki  |    20718 |
| 112370351 | Andreas Müller~dewiki  |    20718 |
+-----------+------------------------+----------+
4 rows in set (0.00 sec)
So it's not a CentralAuth/Renameuser bug, but a MediaWiki core bug. Past errors can't be fixed, hence you want phabricator:T20209. --Nemo 19:59, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
And how do you ensure a correct attribution in the edit summary? That's not possible at all. Besides, imports give much better statistics how articles have been created and how they developed. Finally, regardless what the WMF claims in its terms of use, in the end the license itself counts and that one requires much stricter attribution (at least in CC 3.0 licenses). Therefore, from now on the WMF should disallow non-imported wikitext copies as imports perfectly fulfill the licenses and are most often easily to do. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:31, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Terms of use were confirmed as consistent with the license by Creative Commons itself, so de.wiki's interpretation is not supported by anything. --Nemo 10:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)