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Requests for new languages (Wikipedia Upper Sorbian)

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This proposal has been approved. The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project. The closing committee member provided the following comment: The requested project was created at hsb: at an indeterminate date. Note that this request was approved before the implementation of the standardised Language proposal policy, and should not be used as a model for future requests. Shanel 21:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposal summary
Language details: Upper Sorbian (Hornjoserbsce, hsb ISO 639-3) Editing community: Angr, Dundak, Zak (N), nepl (N) List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language. Relevant pages: Test project External links: —
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Note: Today Dundak informed me that the Sorbian community has now decided to have separate Wikipedias for the two Sorbian languages. Only Upper Sorbian having a sufficient number of native speakers willing to participate at present, I converted the "general" Sorbian request into one for Upper Sorbian only. A new request for a Wikipedia in Lower Sorbian can be filed at Requests for new languages. --Arbeo 19:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• Notes/comments: In fact, there are two very similar sorbic laguages, see article in Wikipedia.
• Number of speakers: 60 thousand in Germany + an unquantified number in a part of Texas, USA
  • First: sign your posts, please. Second: both Upper and Lower Sorbian are standardised languages. We should not create one Wikipedia for both of them. Better point this request at Upper Sorbian, having much more speakers, particularly among the young (Lower Sorbian is seriously endangered), or consider requesting two Wikipedias, for both languages. Caesarion 10:15, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • If sorbian wikipedias should be created (an idea which I strongly support) then it should have BOTH as a lower-sorbian wikipedia could stop the endangerous situation of the language! Tiontai 20:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • A Wikipedia is not enough to stop a language being endangered, but it can be very useful. However, contributors must be found for both of them, and I think it will be quite difficult to find enough willing contributors for both Upper and Lower Sorbian. Upper Sorbian has the priority, imo, because it is more likely to generate a real encyclopaedia than Lower Sorbian. In other words: if the Upper Sorbian Wikipedia succeeds we can think of creating a Lower Sorbian one. Caesarion 23:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC) you are right. --Dundak 09:56, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • So I will ask some sorbians to create a wikipedia or to push the idea of an wikipedia like this.

Tiontai 05:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Comments: There were some attempts to translate the UI LanguageHsb.php, the file seems to be outdated, so I worked on User:Dundak/LanguageHsb.php, but the interest in this project seems to be rather low-level. I mean, let's have some people together first, then think about setting up a new WP. --Dundak 09:03, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I tried to update Language Hsb for Upper Sorbian based upon Mediawiki 1.5 beta3. --Michawiki (formerly mwjelk) 20 Jul 2005
  • I support the creation of Sorbian Wikipedia. This culture and languages are endangered and Wikipedia might help preserving it. Kpjas 07:56, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. --Millosh 09:13, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
    • One comment: Is it possible to find some rules between hsb and dsb orthographies? If it is possible, then we can make one Sorbian Wikipedia with hsb and dsb interface! This can be very important because there are no a lot of Sorbians and it would be reasonable that they work together. If it is not possible, then we need two Wikipedias: hsb and dsb! --Millosh 12:57, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong support. As a matter of fact, I am puzzled by the fact that there is no Wikipedia in either Upper or Lower Sorbian by now. There shouldn't be any major problems with finding contributors in Upper Sorbian. There are functioning (and developing) Wikipedias in languages that have a much smaller speaker base. Furthermore, the majority of Sorbians receive education in Sorbian and that is a great advantage in working on a Wikipedia when compared to some other minority languages. In my opinion, once there is a success with Wikipedia in Upper Sorbian, also a Lower Sorbian version should be created. I'm not a Sorbian speaker, but with dictionaries can understand almost everything and I would be willing to contribute to some very, very limited extent (interwiki, illustrating, etc). UCZK 19:10, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
  • support - but I won't be able to actively contribute in Sorbian, so I offer only technical help. / tsca ✉ 19:28, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Although the community could be small, there's no reason why not. After all, I'm sure it will pass some wikipedias that have an article or two. --Dungodung 13:16, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I think, that great philosopher Laibnitz would be very pleаsеd to see this development on his native Sorb language. --194.106.189.159 13:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. Why not --Sasa Stefanovic 18:29, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong support. Sorbian Wikipedia(s) should be created! Maybe creating of a Sorbian test Wiki will help to start. --Võrok 06:25, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. There should be wikipedias in both languages, but perhaps starting with Upper Sorbian. Wikipedias in other European regional languages seem to be quite successful, and, despite the small population, I think these would be too. --Chamdarae 23:14, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. As long as there is _no_ possible contributor, it does not make sense at all to start the project. The Sorbian community is quite well-organized, if they wish to start a Wikipedia they can contact us. --zeno 23:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support - I do not speak this language but I have contacts to this region and hope to find users for both Upper and Lower Sorbian wikis. --Steffen Löwe Gera 15:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support - I wonder why there is still no Sorbian Wikipedia project, regarding all the existing language projects with much less potential. Additionally, a Sorbian Wikipedia would help to preserve this small but complete Slavic culture, which is endangered by German language and culture today. --Voevoda 23:59, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Support - Knowledge for all people should be our creed! If there are people who speek Sorbian language (plus I know that a rich culture lies behind that language), then we must provide those people a chance to create Sorbian Wikipedia! -- Obradovic Goran 16:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support --Pokrajac 22:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support Ronline 06:28, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support Avala 19:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Support. --Hottentot
  • Support the creation of separate Wikipedias (hsb: and dsb:), not one single wen: --Angr 18:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support Qurqa 01:55, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support --Dundak 21:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
• There seem to be at least 3 native speakers working on the test-wiki. We should try and get this request approved soon. --Chamdarae 11:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • If there are three native spekers, it can be approved now. Tell them to come and vote, mentioning that they are native speakers (or otherwise indicate it, if they've already voted). Tuf-Kat 21:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
• Support - Arbeo 13:47, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
• Strong support. I am a Sorb and I would be very pleased, if our small people(s) got the chance to have wikipedia in Upper and Lower Sorbian language. I am realy looking forward to our wikipedia! Thanks for all support!--nepl N 13:22, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Strong support. This prospective Wikipedia might be very vital. (There are actually more than the three Wikimedians subscribed here, contributing to the test Wiki.) And I will be trying to help there to some limited extent. --Reo On|+|+ 13:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Support --Radouch 14:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Strong support --Dezidor 15:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)