User talk:Johannes Richter (WMDE)

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Lionel Cristiano (talk) 14:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia beginners wanted for user testing

Hi John. I noticed your posts to very new editors on en-wiki, seeking input for user testing on de-wiki. I hope you get the response you want. But I just thought I'd suggest that you might, perhaps, get much better take up if you specify that the survey and involvement does not require knowledge of German. Not specifying that would certainly put me off were I a new user. Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nick Moyes, thanks for the advice! We were specifically looking for input for user testing on en-wiki (and of course in English). Multiple users seemed to be confused about this, so we'll make this more clear the next time we are inviting people to participate in user testing. Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 07:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Sub-Referenzierungsfunktion

Hallo Johannes,

vielen Dank für die Information und eure Arbeit an der Sub-Referenzierungsfunktion!

Ich möchte darauf hinweisen, dass wir in der polnischen Wikipedia bereits eine Lösung in Form der Vorlage pl:template:odn (abgeleitet von „odnośnik“, was „Referenz“ bedeutet) haben. Diese Vorlage wird verwendet, um Inline-Referenzen zu erstellen und ist besonders nützlich, wenn man sich mehrfach im Artikel auf eine bibliografische Quelle beziehen möchte. Ein Beispiel für ihre Anwendung findet man im Artikel Die Geschichte der Stadt Wolin.

Habt ihr ein solches System in Betracht gezogen oder besteht die Möglichkeit, es anzupassen? Diese Vorlage funktioniert in vielen Fällen sehr gut und könnte eine einfachere Lösung darstellen als die Einführung einer neuen Wikitext-Syntax. Vielen Dank für euer Engagement und eure Bemühungen!

Beste Grüße! Zwiadowca²¹ 15:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Zwiadowca21, herzlichen Dank für dein Feedback! Wir haben uns Vorlagen wie odn natürlich angeschaut, die aber u.a. Probleme für VisualEditor-User erzeugen (Beispiel mit dem enwiki sfn-template). Deshalb arbeiten wir an einer MediaWiki-Lösung zur Wiederverwendung von Einzelnachweisen mit unterschiedlichen Details in der normalen references syntax. Dass diese Lösung – wenn VisualEditor und Wikitext gleich gut funktionieren sollen – allerdings manchmal Kompromisse erfordert, liegt auf der Hand. Jetzt stellt sich die Frage, ob die gefundene Lösung für Communities ok ist.

Künftig könnte es irgendwann mal ein Ansatz sein, dem VisualEditor "beizubringen", mit Vorlagen wie odn korrekt zu arbeiten, aber das erfordert viel Aufwand und mehr Ressourcen, als unser Team WMDE Technische Wünsche aktuell hat. Viele Grüße Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 16:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

WMDE contact

This got archived before you could respond. Who would be the person handling this? e 09:06, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Usually each team make sure that there are no accounts of former employees with any "advanced" permissions. I don't think there is a person responsible for further steps in "account offboarding", because there has never been the need to lock accounts. Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 11:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Is there a person responsible for IT security in general? e 11:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think this is a security issue. There are policies for removing sensible permissions from inactive accounts which is the main "security" concern one might have. There are hundreds of thousands or millions of inactive accounts which don't pose a problem to our projects (no matter if the accounts belong to volunteers, affiliate staff members or any non-Wikimedia organization). You can find contact persons for all of our teams on our website. Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 10:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Comment: VisualEditor automatic reference names

Hi, I’m Johannes from Wikimedia Deutschland’s Technical Wishes team. We are considering to work on Community Wishlist/W17: Improve VE references' automatic names and reuse. This has been a long-term issue for wikitext editors (see e.g. en:WP:VisualEditor/Named references) which has been among the top-voted wishes in several Community Wishlist Surveys, e.g. 2017, 2019, 2022 or 2023.

We would like your input on the solutions proposed on our project page: m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names. We are considering several options, which can be combined if desired by the community.

• Changing the default pattern for automatically generated reference names (currently ":n", e.g. ":0", ":1"...) to use the reference type instead (e.g. "book_reference-1").
• Providing a simple mechanism for communities to configure a different default name.
• Generating automatic reference names based on the domain name (if it’s a web citation).
• Generating automatic reference names based on template parameters (e.g. "title" or "last"+"first") – defined by the community.

Feedback

Visit our project page to read about our proposal in detail and share your thoughts on metawiki.

Please note: We will only implement a solution if there’s clear consensus among the global community. Our intention is not to build the perfect solution, but to find a simple and lean one that alleviates the pain caused by auto generated names. We are aware that some experienced VisualEditor users might prefer an option to manually change reference names in VisualEditor, but such a UX intervention is difficult to achieve across reference types and thus out of scope for our team, we can only improve the auto-naming mechanism. We are happy about suggestions for improving certain details of the proposed solutions. Any other feedback and alternative proposals are also welcome – even though it’s out of scope for us, it might still be relevant for future work on this topic.

Please support us interpreting consensus by clearly indicating your opinion (e.g. by using support/neutral/oppose templates). We are aware of en:WP:NOTVOTE, but given that we are facilitating this discussion with users from different wikis, potentially commenting in their native language, clearly indicating your position helps us avoid misunderstandings.

Thank you for participating!

Johannes Richter (WMDE) (talk) 10:49, 19 March 2026 (UTC)