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Wikipedia article depth/Table change from 32px to 30px


Hi Vipz, on my video everything is regular but if 30px can cause problems, I restore 32px. --Antonio1952 (talk) 12:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Is it really fair to call Serbo-Croatian as "Bosnian-Croatian-Montenegrin-Serbian (or shortly BCMS)"?


Per Glottolog sout1258 entry, aside from BCMS, Serbian-Croatian-Bosnian does also have

  • Chakavski (Chakavian)
    • Burgenland Croatian
    • Nuclear Chakavian
  • Shtokavski (Shtokavian)
    • New Shtokavian
      • Bunjevac
      • Eastern Bosnian Shtokavian
      • Eastern Herzegovinian Shtokavian (Eastern Herzegovinian dialect) (where includes B,C,M,S entries)
      • Karashevski
      • Kosovo-Resava
      • Prizren-South Morava
      • Slavonian Shtokavian
      • Smederevo-Vrsac
      • Sumadija-Vojvodina
      • Timok
      • Uzican
      • Zeta-Raska
    • Old Shtokavian

The BCMS varieties look much more specific to the Eastern Herzegovinian one, so far if calling Serbo-Croatian as just BCMS, isn't this panorama unfair for Chakavian or other Shtokavian dialects' speakers? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:04, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi, thanks for contacting me @Liuxinyu970226. I'm not sure if I'll be able to satisfy your question, but I'll try. I have to say these are quite unusual questions, but I understand. First, this is quite a weird categorization Glottolog is pursuing, because Chakavian is as independent from Shtokavian as Kajkavian is; though I presume they separated Kajkavian because it has reached standardization (while Chakavian hasn't). The question of fairness to "other Shtokavian dialects' speakers" is pretty much non-existent, the fact all varieties of BCMS are standardized on a single dialect of Shtokavian is relevant only to linguists. This is because Shtokavian remains fully mutually intelligible among all its dialects, and you couldn't tell apart neighbouring dialects if your life depended on it. :p Whether and to whom are SC and BCMS unfair names is not related to its dialects. Back when it was first being standardized in the 19th century, calling the common language plain "Shtokavian" was common, though that initiative has not been revived since then. In conclusion, BCMS/SC is constituted either of: 1) just Shtokavian or 2) Shtokavian, Kajkavian and Chakavian. There has never been a linguistic-grounded categorization of only two of these under the common language moniker while excluding a third. –Vipz (talk) 02:48, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Queering Wikipedia 2023 conference


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Thanks, from Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply