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Editing News #1—July 2019[modifica]

18:32, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Replies[modifica]

Thanks. Although I have a phone that cannot perform such actions (it is only a Nokia phone, I don’t think that I will get my phone until I am 16 or so). Znotch190711 (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

The visual editor requires Javascript and a smartphone or tablet. It doesn't work on a feature phone. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hidden number[modifica]

Hi! How to hide a Q/R number after Q/R name in {{Q}}? Please, help add parameter {{Q|Q1|1=hidden}}, anyhow? Thanks! — Niklitov (talk) 14:08, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

If we can do this, why would you want to? If you're really using {{Q}}, then having the Q number visible is useful. If you don't want to show it, why not link directly to a page on a different project? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Articles on for-profit companies[modifica]

I've started doing some work on pages like Google, Amazon, and Facebook to document some stuff on Wikimedia's (occasionally problematic) relationships with these companies. There should probably be a standard format for these, and maybe a navbox. Anyone know if there has been any previous work on documenting these? Also, are there any problems with documenting if a Wikimedia official has been employed by a company, during their term or not? --Yair rand (talk) 23:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm not really sure this is within meta's scope? It might be worth having an essay in your userspace here or on another project, but I wouldn't want it in meta mainspace personally. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Hm, I hadn't even considered whether it might be out of scope. The page Google was started in 2015 by User:PiRSquared17. It seems to me like this largely falls within "Documentation and discussion concerning the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects", per the inclusion policy. --Yair rand (talk) 23:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
It seems to fit the parameters of Meta-Wiki's purpose (see also the inclusion policy). Killiondude (talk) 05:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I think that's debatable, but I'd agree it's borderline. If it is within scope though, I think it should be marked as an essay or even moved to userspace, where I wouldn't really have any objections to it. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
These articles are fine and I don't see them in any way similar to essays, they don't contain opinions but merely serve as index for a few facts. For similar articles see Machine translation and FLOSS-Exchange for instance. Nemo 06:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
That's fine. Personally, I think documenting occasionally problematic relationships is more essay stuff than articles, but it's not something I feel like pressing if I'm the only one who feels that way. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:16, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for expanding these! I don't think we need a strict format on these pages and a navbox would cement a selection of topics which are not necessarily the ones. Categories are doing the job pretty fine, in my opinion, see e.g. Category:Google. Nemo 06:52, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe a navbox of major donors? Or a specific subcategory for "For-profit organizations"? --Yair rand (talk) 01:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

New template for diff links (cross-project)[modifica]

Providing diff links to substantiate certain claims (or simply to point to some specific change) is common practice in the WMF projects. Typically, these are diffs from the same project. However, on projects like Meta, where other projects are coordinated, or in Commons or Wikidata, that serve many other projects, it may be necessary to also provide diffs from another project. The standard {{diff}} template, while otherwise a venerable tool, doesn't provide such functionality.

Enter {{xdiff}}. Besides using very slightly simplified syntax (which I personally find more convenient), it supports cross-project (that is, from a different project, not between projects, of course) diff links.

Here's an example from enwiki: {{xdiff|188929697|188927826|Don't delete the main page|w:en}} => Don't delete the main page

And another from Commons (which also uses the default “diff” label): {{xdiff|343980000|343611222||c}} => diff

Check the documentation in {{xdiff}} for instructions on its usage and for more examples.

Cheers,
— Luchesar • T/C 12:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia African Month[modifica]

Hello,

For the second French Wikipedia African Month (fr:Mois africain Wikipédia/2020), I want this edit-a-thon will become in other languages. Actually, a portuguese edition was created in 2019, as the French version. Is possible ? Because this event is here to create articles about Africa, because there are minor that other continent.

Sincerely & Thanks, AirSThib (talk), le 13:09, 12 August 2019 (UTC).

PS : I didn't translate this message, so the English is not very good !

Current state of "General requests"[modifica]

Currently, the "General requests" looks all but abandoned or overlooked. The page is getting huger and longer to browse, so archiving may be needed. Threads within the past year have receiver very little to no reply. If it can't be marked as "inactive", what else can be done about the venue? George Ho (talk) 06:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Vertically-oriented column headers for tables[modifica]

Regular column
Vertical value column
Thin gold column
Unsortable column
0
1
1 2
3
5
8 13
Regular column
Vertical value column
Thin gold column
Unsortable column

Sometimes, like here, tables can get quite wide only because of the column headers. In such cases, rotating the headers to a vertical position may help to keep the tables compact and even easier to read. There are templates that allow this, and I've ported (well, mostly just copy-pasted) {{Vertical header}} from enwiki (may also be used as {{vert header}} and {{verth}}), along with a few more templates, on which it or its documentation depended, for example {{Quick table}}. Enjoy!
— Luchesar • T/C 11:12, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking[modifica]

14:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)