Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Chianino

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. A committee member provided the following comment: Not a valid request. --Sotiale (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	chian (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Chianin	Language name in English
Language name	Chjanino	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item		Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	chian.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Uichipedja	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace		usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace		"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Europe/Arezzo	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

El chjanino è la lengua uffičjale de la Chjana, el parlen tutti da Arezzo n giue, e nn è manco punto sempliče, te l dirò eh! Ma è na roba čitti, na roba, mondjale, spečjale.

The Chianin is the official language of (Val di) Chiana, everybody speaks it there, all the way from Arezzo; it is not easy at all, to be honest, but it is so great and enjoyable! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.51.68.128 (talk)

Discussion

This seems to be w:en:Tuscan dialect or a subdialect of that, which is apparently considered by SIL to be Italian. Thus there is a Wikipedia covering this, it.wikipedia.org. --Prosfilaes (talk) 09:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It surely is a Tuscan dialect, but it is quite different from standard Italian in various features, and if Neapolitan or Venetian dialects have a Wikipedia on their own I can’t see why Chianino wouldn’t deserve it as well.

It is generally left up to w:ISO 639 to decide whether or not a dialect is a separate language. They have said that Neapolitan and Venetian are separate languages, and Tuscan is part of Italian. It is possible to submit a request for a new language tag to them; any chance of getting a Wikipedia for a language without an ISO 639-3 tag will come if and when they reject it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:19, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosfilaes: Sorry, but per [1], due to the COVID-19 problems, submissions of new ISO code requests are suspended until future notice. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's not what that says, but if it takes more time to get a response from SIL, it will take more time to get a response from SIL.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not want to seem rude, but I am inclined to suppose that this page is actually a hoax. Italy has a lot of very different dialects and languages, but this particular variable of Tuscan is definitely far from being officially recognized or studied by linguists. - εΔ ω 22:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sotiale: So, this is just a hoax request, as it looks hoax, smiles hoax, and even quacks hoax, shouldn't this be speedy rejected? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:25, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]