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You are a scrutineer for the 2021 enwiki ArbCom election[edit]

Hi Sotiale. Thank you for indicating your willingness to volunteer as a scrutineer for the 2021 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election. You have been appointed to be a scrutineer, and I will be shortly requesting that the Arbitration Committee grant you temporary checkuser permissions on the English Wikipedia to aid you in this role. If you do not wish to continue to serve in this role, please notify me or another member of the Electoral Commission (listed here). Thank you again for agreeing to serve in this important role. We deeply appreciate it. Mz7 (talk) 03:22, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Should I resubmit the checkuser requests today or reopen those requests?[edit]

I attached the details (reasons, evidences) for these not-done requests in Steward_requests/Checkuser requested by Liuxinyu970226 today. Should I resubmit the requests, or we make it simple by reopen them? Itcfangye (talk) 07:53, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Itcfangye: I don't prefer reopening an already closed request, for the logging purpose. If your time permits, would you please request again? Thank you. --Sotiale (talk) 07:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Done. Itcfangye (talk) 08:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Re check Kapol6360 sock's[edit]

I think CreeperDigital4651 that was Kapol6360 socks. Can you take a look or any action?-- Willy1018 (talk) 13:10, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Could you explain why you thought so? Simply the fact that you think so doesn't give me any clues. --Sotiale (talk) 13:59, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for replay it's Yage wu socks. Willy1018 (talk) 21:18, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Take care[edit]

Glad to see you around, seems SK COVID cases are a lot recently, take much care. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:39, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fortunately, in the area where I live, there are not so many confirmed cases. Although the spread of the Omicron COVID variant has recently begun, it has not yet spread nationwide. Thank you for caring about me. You, too, take care of your health! --Sotiale (talk) 13:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply


The Original Barnstar
感谢您长期以来帮助处理用户查核。桐生ここ (talk) 12:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
谢谢! --Sotiale (talk) 13:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Why lock[edit]

Hello sir why you block my account Jebat2? I can't access my account now. 2402:9D80:22A:2EAD:0:0:1C1B:7539 07:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Please global lock[edit]

See Steward_requests/Global#Global_block_for_126.34.82.137. Please global block (talk · contribs). LTA.-- 03:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

About the blockage[edit]

Excuse me, I want to ask why you suddenly block my account on incubator? I haven't used any other account anymore after the warning, but you blocked me using abusing multiple accounts a few hours ago. Can you provide a reason for that? --Bosco1122 (talk) 04:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

There seems to be some misunderstanding. I didn't warn you, I asked you a question for an explanation. What you described as calling langcom's attention deceived langcom and seriously interfered with their business. Other users are also socking, explaining as you claim. Generally, users send mail to langcom, contact members, or leave requests on talkpage, not socking. And it's also quite strange to explain that you were afraid that contributing to multiple projects using multiple languages would be considered abusive. It is not taken into account in blocking, but I wonder if you really claim to have nothing to do with this and this. --Sotiale (talk) 05:47, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Actually I don't know what you meant about socking. I know that using multiple accounts is not a good behavior so I do not use other accounts anymore, instead I start recruiting people to contribute to incubator, either in real life or in social media. I don't understand why you said I have relations with these two accounts, I only use one account recently. --Bosco1122 (talk) 08:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
You mean you've never used the above two accounts? Okay. Regarding your block, if you want to review it, ask incubator admins other than me to review the block. They can review my block and deal with it from a neutral standpoint. --Sotiale (talk) 09:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, but where can I contact other admins? --Bosco1122 (talk) 15:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Contact MF-Warburg or Minorax (most active admins). --Sotiale (talk) 13:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Update on Gungbe Wikipedia (Wp/guw) approval[edit]

Hi Sotiale, thank you for your work on assisting languages in incubator. Please is there any update on our approval? Is there anything we could do to support the process of final approval? Please let me know. Thanks.--Samatics (talk) 04:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

A few langcom members have expressed their favor, but many have yet to comment. Sometimes members are busy and forget to send comments, which delays the process. I will send them a reminder. --Sotiale (talk) 05:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks.--Samatics (talk) 06:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi Sotiale, Trust you are fine. Please is there any update on our approval?--Samatics (talk) 05:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
I sent a reminder to langcom the day(12 Dec 2021) I communicated with you, and the comments were all favor. I look forward to starting the process for approval soon. --Sotiale (talk) 14:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Glad to hear this! Thanks for the update.--Samatics (talk) 15:32, 31 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Samatics: Oh, I was busy so I didn't check, now it's in the stage of getting opinions from linguistics experts. Awaiting a reply from them. --Sotiale (talk) 04:32, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ok. Thanks.--Samatics (talk) 04:39, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Error in mniWikipedia & mniWiktionary[edit]

Hi, @Sotiale: Why admin rights are not updated in mniwiktionary. Same happened for Mniwikipedia also. A Mangang (talk) 06:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Awangba Mangang: Hi. It happens sometimes. Your flags on 2 wikis have been set. --Sotiale (talk) 11:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi! I'm Dswitz10734, an editor on Wikipedia. I recently went to edit a page, and realized I was blocked. Currently, I'm editing from another device. Is there any reason I was blocked? If so, please contact me and I'll do my best to get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks, Dswitz10734 (talk) 14:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Dswitz10734: Hi. Sorry for the inconvenience you experienced. It's very likely not your fault. If you use a VPN or a function that hides your IP, the IP may be blocked and your editing may be difficult. If you turn it off, you can edit without problems. In order to figure out what the problem is, please send the message and IP that appears when blocking to my wikimail. Thank you. --Sotiale (talk) 02:19, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Sotiale, my IP is and when I try to edit, this message comes:
     IP address is in a range that has been blocked on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis. The block was made by Sotiale ( The reason given is Open Proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are effected.
I'd just like to thank you for working with me to solve this problem. I know we're not out of the woods yet, but hopefully soon. Dswitz10734 (talk) 14:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Dswitz10734: Your IP assigned to iBoss seems to be the service you use for secure connection. If you want to edit on enwiki only, you can get a local IPBE flag and edit freely. But, if you are active on other wikis, you can freely edit by requesting a GIPBE. If you don't mind asking for this, turn off the secure connection service or VPN. --Sotiale (talk) 02:46, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

How we will see unregistered users[edit]


You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Re: And isn't it too harsh to post 7 requests at once?[edit]

Apologies, there was a significant backlog in the zhwiki local request page (and most of those requests have been waiting for over two to three days), and I was slightly inactive on HAM to SRCU requests during that time, so I had to defer them to SRCU all at once.

I recently pushed a discussion on zhwiki on converting local HAM page into an SPI system similar to that of enwiki's, which has gained a lot of support. I expect that the procedures would be complete by the end of the month. There will possibly be clerks (zh, en) doing the job of confirming whether cases are suitable for CheckUser, so I hope the new local procedures would enhance the efficiency and provide a smoother process on CheckUser requests to avoid backlogging or pushing of stale/inappropriate requests onto Meta.

I am also aware of the Foundation notice that CheckUser might be returning to zhwiki in the near future (well of course, the prior being the local community accepting the offer and following the provided procedures). I would like to thank you for you help on zhwiki CheckUser cases in the past and the future, I am sure that your contributions would not be forgotten.

Regards, Luciferian 04:21, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

@LuciferianThomas: Oh my, please don't take it too seriously. As you can see the speed of processing that day, I'm already quite familiar with the zhwiki checkuser, so it's not a burden to me unlike the first time. I was just joking to communicate comfortably with you. As always, I will continue to provide my services for you as long as I can work. Also, I will follow the method that is more convenient for you. --Sotiale (talk) 04:28, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I know, I didn't take it seriously, but still I do owe an apology :P Thank you! --Luciferian 04:29, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
If the local community decides to set up a quick CU request channel as in w:en:WP:SPI#Quick CheckUser requests for RfIPBE checks, would it be too much workload for stewards? According to numbers provided by a sysop, there are in average 32 RfIPBEs per week. Of course, requests will be submitted in batches, possibly once per day or two. Luciferian 09:48, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Normally, it would be an additional task for local checkusers, so stewards would not be obligated to handle it. Moreover, assuming such a thing happens, it is likely that most of those tasks will be handled by me. Yes, that would be no different than appointing me as the zhwiki checkuser. --Sotiale (talk) 12:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
In the discussion of adding such process on RfIPBE, members of the community were concerned about whether stewards would accept such requests (I do understand that stewards are not obligated to handle these requests), so I came to ask you if you could help with such requests, and if you do, I'm sure that the community would very much appreciate your help, especially sysops who are in the awkward position of having to just accept all RfIPBEs due to the lack of CheckUser, and possibly overdoing RfIPBEs that no open proxies is practically defunct. Luciferian 13:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
It will be an issue that needs to be considered. It's about what you're asking for and what ways to make it more comfortable, and whether your community has the trust in me to do that or not. Of course I will also have to consider how much my workload is. --Sotiale (talk) 13:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding possible sock of zhwiki LTA[edit]

Pardon me for posting a request here. On local Administrators' noticeboard/Miscellaneous, a user reported user 臭臭貓 to be a suspected sock of LTA:SiuMai. While investigating the contributions of the reported user and the LTA main account (and as listed evidence on ANM), there are quite some similarities between the two. Adding to the report was that the last found sock ABX456 was blocked one day before 臭臭貓 was created, which was back in January 2021. While I do find it Possible Possible through behaviour analysis, I am still very uncertain of the relationship of the two users. I understand that any past data of found socks would have been stale, but I would like to ask for your help to see what to do about this case and future cases where the past identified accounts are long stale, to prevent inappropriately identifying authentic new editors who are not actually LTA socks. Do we have to abandon the report as unidentifiable and either on the good side not wrongly blame a new editor or on the bad side let loose a past LTA? (Concern being blocked users are not allowed to clean start, given the fact that they aren't "clean" record anyways.) Thank you! --Luciferian 04:56, 16 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

@LuciferianThomas: Oh, I saw this and forgot.. Sorry for the late reply. Are there any accounts I've investigated among them? --Sotiale (talk) 11:21, 17 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it would be Steward requests/Checkuser/2021-01#Ca11ist0@zh.wikipedia, inconveniently the exact case where a zhwiki user posted something not nice about Stewards and made you unhappy. Luciferian 12:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello, would there be any insight for now? Thanks! --Luciferian 03:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I don't recommend it as it can be inaccurate, but the data may still be mine if I investigated it. If you really think you need it, get consensus from HAM and request for it. --Sotiale (talk) 03:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Request for Meta IPBE right[edit]

Hello Sotiale! Sorry for interruption. I'm currently in China Mainland, thereby I have to use a proxy to edit meta-wiki. Can you please grant me local IPBE right of meta? Thanks. --Tranve (talk) 05:40, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Result via this[edit]

In local,I request check Judasmujer20991 and Zoetay20112([1]),but Timmyboger forgot submit this two users,so you can check this two users?--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:27, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

I believe they excluded those accounts because 90 days have passed since the last activity. --Sotiale (talk) 11:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I recheck this two users last edit time,Judasmujer20991 is stale (23 October in last year) but Zoetay20112 is not (23 November in last year,so I feel Zoetay20112 have data on it.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 06:05, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Well, Zoetay20112 is confirmed, but no other account found. --Sotiale (talk) 06:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks,I report this update in RFCUHAM.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 07:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Happy 설날[edit]

Hey, happy 2022 설날. Hope the year ahead will be a good and meaningful one for you. Stay safe. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:17, 31 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Greetings, Camouflaged Mirage. I am having a happy holiday. These days, my stamina isn't as good as it used to be, so I'm just doing what I want to do, but I'm hoping to get my stamina back soon. The world is noisy due to the spread of Omicron. Hope you are safe too. --Sotiale (talk) 12:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Question about CU[edit]

May I ask if it is possible to request checking against a claim (i.e. user claiming he's using a company's broadband service)?--1233 T / C 14:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi. It depends on the specific circumstances, but in general, it is rarely acceptable to check for that purpose(for example, why is it necessary? ... etc) It would be helpful to explain the specific situation. --Sotiale (talk) 14:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
This is regarding a recent SPI on Wpcpey (since the case involves IP socks, an SPI case was filed, since there is no other place to file it before SPI opens next Monday). Wpcpey is suspected for abusing IP socks while being temporarily blocked. The editing patterns are similar (gaining interest on the same article across Chinese and Yue Wikipedias at the same time) and the editing time patterns almost matches, and the main IP used is only active during when the user is blocked and has no edits between when the user's second last block expired and when the current block was placed (spanning six days). While most behavioral evidence goes against the (blocked) user, the user claims to have not used IP socks and says that they are using a different ISP than that of the IPs, and there are also a few pieces of behavioral evidence that shows possibility that the IPs found are actually not Wpcpey. There are mixed and even contradicting conclusions and findings between to-be clerks, so we are asking if it is possible to request a check on such claims, or even just "whether the user is actually abusing socks or the found behavioral evidence is just completely coincidental". Thanks! Regards, Luciferian 15:30, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@1233 and LuciferianThomas: So to sum up what you're saying, you suspect this is an IP socking case, right? Perhaps this is more intuitive than comparing ISPs. I would like to point out that revealing an account and IP (or range) relationship publicly and IP socking investigation are clearly different. I may decide to take action in such a way that I do not provide any conclusive judgment regarding the relationship between the IP (or range) you present as evidence and the account. Consider two instances where I previously declared abuse on zhwiki; This is something I refrain from doing on zhwiki for special reasons, but in general this is within the scope of checkuser as long as it is within the privacy policy. If this is not possible, you will be unable to respond even if the admins are IP socking. This is very absurd and bureaucratic. If you suspect block evasion through IP socking, you think it is clear that it is disruptive to your project, I will investigate. However, I hope that the clerks will form a consensus regarding this investigation as there are clerks, rather than reviewing all the evidence as in the previous case I did. --Sotiale (talk) 02:57, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your reply and check, helping us clear up the case. I would also like to add a question: are these conditions (individually) suitable for sleeper checks?
  1. LTA known for creating sleeper accounts, leaving them for a few days to fulfill the autoconfirmed requirements, possibly making seemingly normal edits in the process;
  2. LTA known for creating accounts that they do not dispose even after being reported (e.g. in the case of w:zh:LTA:SiuMai);
  3. Checking for dormant LTA accounts before they get stale.
This would help the clerks and the community to get clear of what exactly are suitable for CheckUser requests. Thanks! Luciferian 11:13, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
In some cases it may be, and in some cases it may not. This is because it is necessary to comprehensively evaluate the situation. It seems difficult to state general principles that are suitable for all situations. The basic principle of checkuser is to investigate the relationship between two or more accounts, and it is inappropriate to recheck the accounts that have already been checked unless there is a special reason. --Sotiale (talk) 12:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply


I asked a few questions about the SRCU request at Steward_requests/Checkuser/2022-02#Royalfanta@zh.wikipedia, and it got auto archived before it got noticed. Can I please raise your attention for the questions? Thanks! Luciferian𖤐 03:35, 18 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I was on a business trip, so the reply is late. All I can say is, if they were at a level that I could take action, I would have taken action. The same goes for the confirmed group. If their IP is assigned to VPN, or if it's assigned to an institution, I've published it to help you out. --Sotiale (talk) 11:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Luciferian𖤐 11:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

ดิฉันศึกษามาน้อยเลยไม่กล้าสมัครใช้กลัวจะกดแล้วเสียเงิน กลัวโดนหลอก LEKtoa (talk) 17:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

SRCU via HBN[edit]

大阪十万浪人十万野爹 is not global locked.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 06:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Request on approval of Gun Wiktionary (Wt/guw)[edit]

Hello Sotiale, trust you are fine. Please kindly comment on this. It is a request for the approval of the gungbe Wiktionary together with the gungbe Wikipedia. As we now have a newly recognized user group dedicated to these projects, it will make our work more easier if we can get the approval for both projects. Please look into it and let me know your thoughts on the possibility. Thanks for your anticipated response. --Samatics (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Since the approval process for Wp/guw is already in progress, Wt/guw must be processed separately. This can happen at the same time, but it means Wp/guw will be approved first. So if Wp/guw doesn't have any issues, it will be approved first. Personally, I am optimistic about the sustainability of Wt/guw. I'll start the process for approval when I have time and let you know. --Sotiale (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for looking into it and your response. I look forward to starting of the process for approval of Wt/guw.--Samatics (talk) 05:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, good luck to you and your community. --Sotiale (talk) 06:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello Sotiale, soft reminder on assisting in starting the approval process for Wt/guw. Thanks. Samatics (talk) 17:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
There is an opinion that it would be good to start the approval process for Wt/guw next month, so it will be. --Sotiale (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ok. Thanks. Samatics (talk) 10:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello Sotiale, trust your are fine. Please can you assist in starting the approval process? Thanks.--Samatics (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
This month's activity is also included, so it should be at least mid-month. Please contact me again at the end of this month unless another member or I send you a message. --Sotiale (talk) 11:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ok. Thanks for your response.-- Samatics (talk) 16:30, 3 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi Sotiale, trust you are good. Here is a gentle reminder on assisting in starting the approval process for Wt/guw. Thanks!--Samatics (talk) 05:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Samatics: Hi, Samatics. The discussion process for approval has begun. Please continue to be active within your project. --Sotiale (talk) 10:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Wow!I am very glad to hear this. The community will continue to be active as usual. Thanks.--Samatics (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply


I send email to you, please check it, thanks.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 09:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I didn't find any mail from that user in my mailbox, and I don't know what the ticket is because I haven't been processing the VTRS queue lately. It's hard for me to handle it unless I lock the user or I must help it. --Sotiale (talk) 11:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I know least two user when they have been global lock,they send email to steward@ and need VTRS check their unlock request,but not any reply at long time.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 13:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
What does "least two user when they have been global lock" mean? "I lock the user" means I am the steward who first locked their master account, or locked them first. Handling lock evasion is not included in this. And since the backlog of the current stew queue is very much pushed back, most tickets may not be answered in a short time. I'm quite sorry for the situation, but for a quick review it would be good to contact the steward who locked them right away. --Sotiale (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I send email to Martin Urbanec and Tks4Fish.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 06:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
If so, they will review the reqeust to see if it makes sense. --Sotiale (talk) 08:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Also,my SRCU unban request process progress is?--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 09:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I wonder if you mean you submitted in 2021 or if you submitted a new request. At least for 2021 it was decided to keep it as I remember. --Sotiale (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I send SRCU unban request to steward@ at 8 March in last year.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 06:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I remember that the request sent last year was decided not to change the action on you. --Sotiale (talk) 08:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
As an aside, please click the minor edit checkbox when making minor edits after you first posted your post. Your frequent minor edits send me quite a few unnecessary notifications, which makes me uncomfortable. --Sotiale (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

SRCU result via this[edit]

I find other user Dennishu522,edit in same page,similar edit behavior (SPA).--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 07:04, 14 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Post to SRCU via your HAM clerk. --Sotiale (talk) 09:18, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Update on CU request on Tommy860119[edit]

Hi. On this previous check on Tommy860119's sockpuppet, you provided two additional possibly related accounts that were not locally registered on zhwiki at the time, Tony Tiger 3.0 and Johnny to 19960110. I am here to report that these two accounts attached to zhwiki earlier and did start making abusive edits like Tommy860119 (or 光俊) did (and are both now blocked), please note that to your record. For future check requests on this sockmaster (if needed), I guess I should specify that this will require a x-wiki check? Thanks with regards, Luciferian𖤐 10:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ah, I think my explanation was insufficient. The two accounts I presented were technically confirmed accounts. You can safely see them as the same user. In principle, the local checkuser should be local, but since the case user uses a detour, you can refer to the suspect wiki and ask the stewards to find the potential accounts. Of course, this may or may not be accepted by the stewards at their discretion. --Sotiale (talk) 09:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Aha, I see. Thank you for your clarification. Luciferian𖤐 13:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I uhhhh hbhbfhfefjif[edit]

Hello. Disregarding the subsequent edits to the talk page, how was this "nonsense/gibberish"? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
17:09, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

As I left on the person's talkpage, the reason for blocking is wrong. I'm just leaving it unchanged to see how the person reacts to unblock review because they have other reasons for blocking. --Sotiale (talk) 21:45, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I've been busy lately, so it's a bit late, but I just changed the block reason. --Sotiale (talk) 10:50, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Sorry for making mistakes[edit]

Hello, Sir.Sotiale. I have found that you are one of the sysops of kowikisource. Sorry for making the wrong report on GS. Pavlov2 08:44, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's a mistake anyone can make during global activities, and I don't think it was bad intentions. It would be great if it helped you with your experience. --Sotiale (talk) 10:49, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

SRCU result via this[edit]

Local user said ST680 is stole and login by VOA ParkHider via other confirmed user (see this),please recheck this result via Group 1,because I think local admin and steward is misjudge (local blocked indef and steward global lock).--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Well, make that claim with your clerk first, then let them ask me. --Sotiale (talk) 11:11, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
@LuciferianThomas, Itcfangye, SCP-2000, Timmyboger, and 1233: Clerks, I have received several inquiries from him about checkuser. Regarding his inquiry, if you need it, please ask me after discussion. Of course, I am not sure if I can give you a meaningful answer about hacking claim. And I wonder if someone can make these individual requests directly to me. Your consensus, as I understand it, is that clerks can request for a zhwiki checkuser except in exceptional cases. --Sotiale (talk) 11:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I don't know why he (MCC214) did that but clerk team surely has been notified as it is already written at local SPI page.
I don't see anything that a CU check can help if it is related to account hijacks.
@MCC214: Please do the "I want to request check again" locally first before approaching stewards. What you have done (not only this time) not only creates nuisance (particularly Sotiale) but also creates unnecessary workload to everyone. 1233 T / C 14:40, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
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Sir Sotiale, I'm sorry for this case. MCC communicated with me about this case on the other site. However, I didn't respond in time. It might be the cause that made him directly come to you for help. If you permit, I'd like to make some translations for MCC's sentence.
MCC meant that "It seemed User: ST680 is a compromised account. This evidence for compromising has been mentioned locally. If it's right, will you have a look at this case again?" It seemed he didn't mean that "you should do the check user again."
We'd like to make an apology for our terrific English writing and communication and heavy workload for you. Pavlov2 09:04, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Excuse me, but what is the difference between "will you check this case again" and "you should do the check user again"? Both are totally equal in meaning and is requesting for another check. Luciferian𖤐 09:09, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Checking the case again means taking new evidence into consideration, instead of "checkuser", while, seemingly that the word "check" is misleading. Pavlov2 09:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Word changed to "have a look at", hoping better. Pavlov2 09:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I would say that it's totally unnecessary anyways, as you also said, T&S is the way to go, instead of steward requests. Luciferian𖤐 09:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Well, this case seemingly is just something about grammars and words, MCC doesn't intend to do this kind of childish "requests", maybe. Or maybe not... I have warned him on his User talk page. Pavlov2 09:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
On behalf of Clerk team, there is no consensus to re-check ST680. Thanks for your notice. SCP-2000 02:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Or to be even more precise, us clerks have consensus against re-checking ST680. We find a total lack of need to re-check even for this as both compromised accounts and sockpuppet accounts are due to be locked anyways, and checking does not change anything. Even if the check result is that the account is compromised as opposed to being a sockpuppet account, it will not help with unlock or unblocks in any way. The standard practice is for compromised accounts to be handled by the T&S team and not stewards, as I suppose MCC214 should've known for his long-term activity in Wikimedia projects. Luciferian𖤐 05:14, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
By the way, if you really want to make a request for unblocking an compromised account, the owner of the account need to go to Suca instead of talking about it here. Pavlov2 09:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
There is no need to do a recheck since it's obvious STO680 is a stolen account (according to Ericliu1912). And Meta Stewards lock stolen accounts (no matter whether it's stolen by an LTA) to ensure they are not used to cause more harm.
So unless MCC214 finds evidences that makes him suggest ST680 is not a stolen account but the LTA HMGY itself, there is no need to re-checkuser. If ST680 can retrieve the stolen account, they can request for an unlock; otherwise they have to register a new account (and state their identity). (最后这段话我用中文表述一下:除非MCC214发现了他认为有可能表明ST680是HMGY本尊而非被盗的证据,否则不需要重新查核。如果ST680能找回旧账号,那可以申请解锁,否则就只能注册新账号了。)Itcfangye (talk) 12:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Consider temporary suspending the potential approval process of Sassarese and Campidanese, please?[edit]

Regarding Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sassarese and Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Campidanese Sardinian. Annyeonghaseyo, a recent RFL page about Logudorese Sardinian, shows somewhat a hassle matter on dialects of Sardinian, and some Incubator tests for them, it looks like for both test projects, the active contributors don't seem contributed in good faith (no idea if saying so is proper or not), someone pointed that (iirc) both sdc and sro test wikis are having scowiki-like problems, that contributors don't speak both dialects, nor they speak other languages in Sardinia, and they copy-pasted pages from Sardinian Wikipedia (using macrolanguage code sc) without showing attributions. Probably the eligibility for both RFL pages in this topic are affected too. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Late reply. You've probably seen a related mail on langcom-l. Along with you, I would like to thank the person who sent me an anonymous mail. --Sotiale (talk) 10:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ladies/Gentlemen, please be advised that I never send anonymous e-mails. Among the active contributors to Wp/sdc, in the year 2022, there are two users who were born in Sardinia and speak and write correctly in Sassarese. There is also a user born and currently living in Corsica who speaks and writes correctly in Sassarese. Some years ago, the President of the Region of Sardinia created a Commission for the Unified Sardinian Language which is actually an artificial language, given the variety of Sardinian spoken on that island. This Commission has caused the birth of a movement in Sardinia, which is contrary to this project and argues that the Unified Sardinian Language tends to debase the two languages Campidanese and Logudorese, because some linguists consider these two not languages, but rather different spellings of the Sardinian language, that is spoken in the central and southern part of Sardinia. After 4 years, this Commission did not produce any concrete results, indeed, and under the current President of the Region of Sardinia the project for the Unified Sardinian language seems to be waning. But the dispute between linguists does not tend to diminish and is unfortunately also present on Wikipedia. However, on (in Sardinian language) there are pages in Logudorese and also in the dialect of Nuoro, but there are no pages in Sassarese that can be 'copied' and transferred to Wp/sdc from scratch.
Sassarese is a language of its own, born in the 13th century in the north-western part of Sardinia, around the new city of Sassari, which then became an autonomous state-city: it is the language of merchants and traders, with words derived from Latin, Greek, French, Italian, Ligurian, Catalan and also from Logudorese: it reflected the political and economic interests of the cosmopolitan population of the new city of Sassari. Sassarese has its own literature, its own popular music, its own theater plays, its own vocabularies and appears in ancient official documents. Sassarese is unrelated to the dispute over the Unified Sardinian language. The Chair of Linguistics at the University of Sassari is very active in defending the identity of the Sassarese language. Please consider the efforts to get the Wp/sdc project out of the Incubator, as recently requested a couple of times. All the best, --Sirmio Cabinigre 11:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
P.S. 1 Category:Wp/sdc : [2]
Catanalysis Wp/sdc : [3] --Sirmio Cabinigre 14:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
P.S. 2 Fausta Samaritani for [4]
SurdusVII for [5]--Sirmio Cabinigre 16:24, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Request to unblock my account[edit]

Hello, I've received an information that my account is being blocked and I'd like to ask you to give me the access to it. From what it's written my current IP address is and block ID is #513724. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Natalia Natalia Szelachowska (WMCZ) (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

The IP you are using is blocked because it is used as a VPN or proxy. The way to solve this problem is to disable the feature. But assuming that you have a reasonable reason to use such an IP, I have granted you a GIPBE. You should request removal of GIPBE when you no longer need to use VPN or OP. --Sotiale (talk) 10:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Username changes on zhwiki[edit]

There is lot of backlog on that page (zh:Wikipedia:更改用户名) . Can you help ? Willy1018 (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Willy1018: Sorry, my answer is late. I've checked it periodically before, but now I'm not. If you have a lot of backlog, ping me anytime. It all seems to be taken care of now by another renamer. --Sotiale (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Suspicious Anonymous IP Local Wiki Vandalisme[edit]

Dear, Sotiale.

Something is wrong the user anonymous they starting attacking the all rest article of Indonesia Wikipedia they inserting the false year and make misinformation on selected article, can you block this IP before they doing troublemaker again!

Please Proceed my answer ASAP! AF1011 (talk) 01:06, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I temporarily blocked the IP from editing for 6 hours. Well, I could take action on this since the IP had an edit on enwiki(if blocked on idwiki, move to another wikis) but basically hard to intervene about vandalism on idwiki only. There are several admins there and they can handle it properly. --Sotiale (talk) 01:17, 18 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Username changes on zhwiki[edit]

Hi Sotiale! There is lot of backlog on that page, could you help us? Thank you very much! BureibuNeko (talk) 11:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

With the exception of one request that required a question, all other requests were processed. Thanks for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 12:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply


Hello. Local sysop is requesting for a block on such VPN IP per the open proxy policy. Please help with the case with thanks! LuciferianThomas 15:38, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Late reply, but this has already been addressed. --Sotiale (talk) 11:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Gungbe Wikiquote (Wq/guw)[edit]

Hello @Sotiale, Trust you are fine. Kindly look into the approval of Gungbe Wikiquote. Thanks!-- Samatics (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'll review it when I have time. Thanks for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 11:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Sotiale, Thanks for all you do. Here is a gentle reminder on this request. Is there any progress? Thanks.-- Samatics (talk) 04:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Please take a look at my comment on talk:langcom. Perhaps things will be done in that order. --Sotiale (talk) 08:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
I've seen it. So sorry I missed your comment on talk:langcom. Thanks.-- Samatics (talk) 12:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Unblock of Enkhsaihan2005 on Mongolian Wikipedia[edit]

I've been blocked on Mongolian Wikipedia for doing machine translation, which I didn't do. I'm currently working as administrator on Buryat Wikipedia and I wish to be unblocked on Mongolian Wikipedia. Thanks! Enkhsaihan2005 (talk) 07:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Sotiale Enkhsaihan2005 (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately, I am not a member of the global arbitration committee. My intervention in what's happening on the local wiki is very limited. And just because you're a sysop somewhere doesn't guarantee good behavior on mnwiki. --Sotiale (talk) 10:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding local user who operates mirror sites publicly posting LTA information[edit]

Hello, I am writing in regards of zhwiki interface admin AnYiLin who is known to be operating a mirror site for mainland Chinese users. AnYiLin has seemingly obtained technical information of users using their mirror site, while they have not publicly posted normal users' information, they have indeed consistently provided information for an LTA (w:zh:LTA:TTG) who reportedly used their mirror site. While I take their provided information (in a similar fashion as CU results, just mentioning that they are "related") with a pinch of salt and would not directly take action with such information, I would like to ask if this is an allowed practice and how to handle such requests. Thank you! LuciferianThomas 16:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

While unrelated, please help handle this SRG lock request on an account impersonating my bot ASAP. Thank you! LuciferianThomas 07:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Per my request, may I ask if it is possible for me to claim/request usurp on the username? LuciferianThomas 10:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately I don't tend to accept usurp for logs in case of locked accounts. This is because lock logs are not moved with CA. --Sotiale (talk) 10:57, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Noted with thanks. I'll leave it locked then. LuciferianThomas 11:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Username changes on zhwiki[edit]

I'm sorry to bother you again, but there are a lot of backlogs of Username Changes requests on zhwiki now, and the original request was requested a month. Could you help us handle it? Thank you very much! BureibuNeko (talk) 10:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'll take care of everything right away tomorrow. Thanks for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 13:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oh, it looks like your renamer has taken care of it all. --Sotiale (talk) 08:51, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Chinese admin Mys 721tx[edit]

@Sotiale Just FYI, admin @Mys 721tx who initiated the investigation has long been abusing its power, betraying the Chinese Wikipedia community's trusts - this has been, to my discovery, well-known in Chinese Wikipedia community. You could find @河流向大海 has been a regular contributor to Chinese Wikipedia and there is not reason to force @河流向大海 to create a new account - though surely it will, very soon. The reason why @Mys 721tx wanted to block @河流向大海 was that it had personal issues with the latter last year and worried if @河流向大海's civic engagement in the Chinese Wikipedia community would eventually impeach it from its underserved position. @Mys 721tx's infamously long-standing abusing behaviors seriously harm the credibility of not only Chinese Wikipedia but also the Wikipedia project. 米哈伊尔.格里尔斯.盖伦 (talk) 08:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

The case to which I am referring and @河流向大海's contributions 米哈伊尔.格里尔斯.盖伦 (talk) 08:06, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Banjar Wiktionary[edit]

Please see my comment at wikt:bjn:User talk:Sotiale. - dcljr (talk) 21:35, 19 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

I left an answer there. Hope this helps. --Sotiale (talk) 00:51, 20 August 2022 (UTC)Reply


Hello Dear admin I'm here for Autopatrolled Right , Can you give me that right ? Xovot (talk) 12:44, 20 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ummm.. rather than asking me, it would be better to post your request directly in the request page and explain why it is needed. --Sotiale (talk) 01:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Please gblock[edit]

Please, please, please globally block, I already reported them to SRG a week or two ago, but I just can't keep up with their vandalism. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 06:10, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

See the question I left in the thread. --Sotiale (talk) 06:11, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
I responded. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 06:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your RfB[edit]

Hello Sotiale, congratulations on a successful RfB at Meta:Requests for bureaucratship/Sotiale; you are now a bureaucrat for the Meta-Wiki. Welcome aboard, — xaosflux Talk 14:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Xaosflux, thanks for letting me know. Just like when I first started OS here, what I'm not sure about will be discussed with those with experience :) --Sotiale (talk) 10:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Can you help?[edit]

I was banned from Russian Wiktionary for abusing multiple accounts. But there was no abuse. When I created a new account, I indicated my old ones in it and stopped using them. I have no other violations. I contacted the administrator who blocked me here User talk:Bookvaedina#Making signs, here User talk:Bookvaedina#Я в ужасе and here User talk:Bookvaedina#Консенсус because I can't write in the Russian Wiktionary. There is no result. He created a consensus but it gives the impression that I am a different member. In consensus, no one reacts. Help me please. Making signs (talk) 06:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi. First thing you should know, is that your talkpage on ruwikt is not blocked and you can still make unblock appeals. In addition to the admin who blocked you, there are more than 5 admins who have been active within the last week. They won't all be the same, and if your appeal fails, there will be a reason for it. Please explain to them in a convincing way. My local intervention is very limited, and there is nothing I can do as long as local procedures are available. --Sotiale (talk) 09:41, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply


Dear Sotaile Can you globally lock these two account voth are Sockpuppet alt/spambot of ShivamSamajsevi and SarkariYojanaHindi and please block and globally lock this user.Kind Regards → αѵίɾαʍ7 ([ʆεt'ς tαʆƘ🇮🇳])13:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

They are obviously not spambots. Contact your local admin. --Sotiale (talk) 14:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
Dear Sotaile, Will you lock them globally after blocking them on my local wiki? Kind Regardes → αѵίɾαʍ7 ([ʆεt'ς tαʆƘ🇮🇳])14:16, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
There is an active admin there, so normal maintenance is not appropriate for me to do. A steward is not a super user; if local is functional enough, stewards should refrain from doing so unless it is urgent. --Sotiale (talk) 00:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

You are a scrutineer for the 2022 enwiki ArbCom election![edit]

Hi Sotiale! Thank you for indicating your willingness to volunteer as a scrutineer for the 2022 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election. You have been appointed to be a scrutineer, and I will shortly be requesting that the Arbitration Committee grant you temporary checkuser permissions on the English Wikipedia to aid you in this role. If you do not wish to continue to serve in this role, please notify me or another member of the Electoral Commission (listed here). Thank you again for agreeing to serve in this important role. We deeply appreciate it. Mz7 (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Mz7, I think I probably saw this message a year ago. Time has already passed like this :) Thanks for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 11:22, 5 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

An idea for efficient blocking[edit]

Hello. Regarding the date-of-birth vandal [6], they often work not only on kowiki but also on other wikis eg. [7] (enwiki, frwiki, kowiki, wikidata). As they are most active in kowiki, I thought it would be great if you (or another kowiki administrator) could do this: each time you block them in kowiki, also consider to block them globally as well (perhaps with IP range adjustments). For you information, here are some accounts that I think are related: Steward requests/Global#Global block for --Wotheina (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

It may not be possible to treat all cases equally as global blocks, but considering that this is an xwiki abuse, I will consider whether it meets the requirements of global blocks. Thanks for letting me know. --Sotiale (talk) 01:52, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot for your consideration. --Wotheina (talk) 12:29, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

SRG request[edit]

I need you to check this,thanks!--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 06:26, 7 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

I would like to express my personal thoughts for your request to be processed quickly. In general, there is no obligation or need for all previous socks to be automatically locked just because their latest account is locked; All previous socks refer to abandoned accounts that were used a year or 2 years ago. In this case you should explain that previously abandoned accounts will be used again(ex. cases where abandoned accounts were used again), otherwise requesting all abandoned accounts will not produce the desired result. --Sotiale (talk) 02:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
But Sankatic is not, also, first I list Sankatic because Sankatic only four edit in Commons, but Yi Yiu said Sankatic is sock, and Sankatic edit similar to globally locked user Cheng123xx (Cheng123xx, [8], Sankatic, [9], second, I list other four, the reason please see [10] and [11] vs [12] vs user (藝興大廈1314 and 藝興大廈1612).--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 16:36, 8 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Then please split a valid account in your request and explain the reasons you explained to me there again. Perhaps your explanation will help other stews understand your request. --Sotiale (talk) 12:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)Reply


Greetings, should the folks on enwiki know that this user is deceased? (From here) They were most active there and we do have this page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:20, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for the late reply as I saw the notice late. As I recall, it was done by enwiki admin asking the stewards. I figured the admin would have notified it there. --Sotiale (talk) 13:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding LTA Cheng123xx (AXXXXK)[edit]

Hello Sotiale. Pardon me for bringing this directly to the talk page, LTA Cheng123xx (locally identified as AXXXXK) is spreading their abusive behavior x-wiki with IP ranges, not only affecting zhwiki, enwiki and metawiki. Please consider a prompt global block on the following two IP ranges: (zh, en blocked /16, meta blocked /24) and (zhwiki, zhvoyage, enwiki, envoyage blocked). LuciferianThomas 15:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

The guc tool isn't perfect, but given the recent contributions, blocking and for 1 month seems appropriate. So I dealt with it like that. If you have any additional actions or ranges to suggest, please provide me with related links. --Sotiale (talk) 09:11, 10 January 2023 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for your contribution in past year and hope you have a wonderful new year (which don't exist any LTA and vandal :P ) :) --SCP-2000 12:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)}}Reply

This template is copied from zh:User:Ericliu1912/維基友愛模板 :P

@SCP-2000: 兔年大吉! 今年也请多多关照。 --Sotiale (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Paperwork for Meta:Requests for adminship/Mtarch11[edit]

Hi Sotiale, thanks for closing that. When closing RFA's please mark them done on their request page (example) and list it at the section on Meta:Requests for adminship/Archives. If something isn't working with that feel free to ping me. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 11:31, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Remove my IP block extempt[edit]

Hi. Could you remove my IP block extempt because I don't need it anymore? Thank you. Nguyenhai314 (talk) 03:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

check user request from i.p.[edit]

Dear Sotiale I find myself in the unfortunate position of having to complain about the procedure you followed in this requesting from an i.p.

Is it possible for users hiding behind an iP to ask for information about other users' accounts?

First of all this ip misled you by giving vague links that do not prove any violation. He just lied to you.

Second I would like to inform you that this specific ip belongs to a permanent blocked from greek wp, user, who has long been waging a campaign of slander against me. I am literally being stalked by this user, and by your action, you have given him the gun to shoot me once more time. The use of the check results, led to the removal (in a completely abusive way and against the wp's guidelines ) of my rollbacker rights.Ειδικό:Μητρώο&logid=1156562

Here some extracts for the specific conversation at administrators' noticeboardΒικιπαίδεια:Σημειωματάριο_διαχειριστών#Κατάχρηση_πολλαπλών_λογαριασμών[ If you use google translator it is easy to understand the obsession about me. Not to mention that you can check the origin of all ip's are from London and from the same user.

Τώρα πρέπει να επιβληθούν οι απαραίτητες κυρώσεις όπως ορίζει ο κανονισμός. 2A00:23C6:1AD5:C901:E4A8:6792:70AF:3C9B 11:33, 2 Μαρτίου 2023 (UTC)

Δεν πρέπει να επεκταθεί η φραγή της χρήστριας άμεσα για όλες τις παραπάνω παραβιάσεις; Άλλοι και άλλοι φράχτηκαν αόριστα για χρήση μαριονετών. Τι δίνει ασυλία στην χρήστρια; “ 2A00:23C6:1AD5:C901:E4A8:6792:70AF:3C9B 11:43, 2 Μαρτίου 2023 (UTC)

Δείχνεις να ενδιαφέρεσαι πολύ για το μέλλον της χρήστριας. Η πολιτική δεν επιτρέπει τη χρήση μαριονέτας. Συνεπώς τι προβλέπει η πολιτική για τον master puppeteer; Πράξτε τα δέοντα! 2A00:23C6:1AD5:C901:E4A8:6792:70AF:3C9B 13:02, 2 Μαρτίου 2023 (UTC)

Mind you that your action was commented on unfavorably by an administrator Δεν ήξερα ότι δέχονται αιτήματα checkuser από ανώνυμους κουκουλοφόρους ούτε ότι τα απαντούν. --cubic[*]star 23:07, 2 Μαρτίου 2023 (UTC)Βικιπαίδεια:Σημειωματάριο_διαχειριστών#Κατάχρηση_πολλαπλών_λογαριασμών

I look forward to reading your rationale. Thank youo ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 02:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I don't have much time to reply, so please forgive me for summarizing with numbering. 1) It is possible for IP users to post checkuser requests. However, their request may generally be required to provide multiple grounds. 2) It's unfortunate that you had unfortunate consequences including rollback revoke, but it's a local decision and wouldn't have happened if you weren't actually using socks. 3) If they are attacking you from behind, and you think this is a long-term abuse, your community can ask the stewards to checkuser them, after discussion on elwiki local; It's limited and needs more evidence, but it's possible. 4) The elwiki community can form a consensus on denying all requests from IP users regarding all requests to elwiki. It is a community choice and will be respected once formed. 5) It is up to localwiki to decide what to do with checkuser results. Depending on the community's discussion, there are cases in which no action is taken, and in other cases action is taken. I'm just posting checkuser results, I don't have any rights to take action. --Sotiale (talk) 02:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
the point is that it seems that you did not do the required check to determine whether the justification from the ip was correct or not. In practice, you are checking for reasons that did not exist.
also from what I understand, the use of additional accounts is not prohibited, just not preferred.
not to mention that the account HBPEMD was only used in the meta NOT in greek wp. In meta I am not blocked.

ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 18:05, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your comment about the "puppet show" was used as an excuse for an administrator to attack a user on a completely unrelated topic.

Φαντάζομαι μας δουλεύεις έτσι; Προτείνεις για διαχειριστή, αυτόν που έγραψε αυτό το απίστευτο κείμενο. Αυτόν που μας διαβεβαιώνει ότι «καταδικάζει αυτή την πρακτική», αλλά μέχρι εκεί. Η δημιουργία μαριονετών, η παραβίαση φραγής, δεν είναι αρκετά για να γίνει φραγή κατά τη γνώμη του («η φραγή των μαριονετών αυτών, είναι αρκετή προς το παρόν») ! Δεν είναι παράλογο που ο steward Sotiale meta:Steward requests/Checkuser/2023-03#HBPEMD@el.wikipedia μιλά για puppet show, που ήδη υπάρχει, και προφανώς θα πρέπει να αναμένουμε να γίνει επίσημη τακτική με τη βοήθεια του NikosLikomitros ! Πράγματι, δε χρειάζεται άλλες συστάσεις, τα είδαμε όλα τώρα. --Focal Point 19:50, 4 Μαρτίου 2023 (UTC)Βικιπαίδεια:Υποψήφιοι_διαχειριστές/NikosLikomitros ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

It needs to be explained a little more precisely. I have never checked the checkuser data in your account and this can be definitively verified by the checkuserlog. What I originally intended was to confirm that HBPEMD[13] is someone's socks, not to investigate you according to IP's claims itself. The act of creating a new account and blaming the admin is a typical type of sock user. So my intention was to investigate HBPEMD, and you just showed up in HBPEMD's investigation. And it was technically very clear. The claim that I investigated according to the claim of the IP user you believe, of course, that I made it look like I responded to the request and was wrong in not attaching a separate note, but in reality it was not done that way. And using socks by crossing multiple wikis outside of elwiki as well as inside elwiki is an abuse that allows additional measures besides elwiki's measures. Just because you were active on elwiki with one account and meta with another account doesn't differentiate them. And, again, I have no control over localwiki. It is entirely up to the localwiki community to decide whether or not to take action against you. Regarding your block, you must resolve it there. --Sotiale (talk) 00:31, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
The account HBPEMD it seems like sock but actually I had intended to use it as an alternative account, and update...but.
Anyway, i see your point! thank you for your answers. ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 01:08, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply Another attempt to violate privacy policy ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Look what you did: threats and insults from the ip that asked for check userΔώραΣτρουμπούκη ΔώραΣτρουμπούκη (talk) 01:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

re Recent CU on 销信[edit]

Hello Sotiale, may I ask if it is possible to engage another quick check and block related IP addresses of the sockpuppet group? It appears that the group is registering in mass, with multiple accounts appearing right after the check (zh:Wikipedia:傀儡調查/案件/销信#2023年6月1日). Thanks! LuciferianThomas 07:38, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Looking at their methods, it's very likely that block has no effect. Of course, the proxy they used was blocked, but they use a method of creating several accounts for each IP and assigning a new proxy. --Sotiale (talk) 08:21, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. LuciferianThomas 08:58, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Bislama namespaces[edit]


I see that you are saying that you know a little Bislama.

Do you know anyone who knows it well, and who could write translations for namespace names: Talk, User, User talk, Category, etc.? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Jeju name[edit]


See w:en:Talk:Jeju language#Autonym. Perhaps you'll know the answer?.. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:12, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've been very busy, so I saw what you left, but I can't reply. The above will be answered later. Jeju+mal is a compound word of the two words, but since mal is a native Korean language, the spelling 'sai-shiot' is applied. In the current spelling, 'Jejunmal'(제주+ㅅ+말[Jejunmal]) is correct, but the Jejumal is not completely wrong. --Sotiale (talk) 06:34, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is because it is a spelling used for pronunciation in modern Korean. --Sotiale (talk) 06:35, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
OK, but is it a spelling in Korean or in Jeju? I'm wondering whether any of them is preferable in Jeju. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I don't know which one they prefer, but they probably don't either. Both notations are used in their publications. I couldn't find any information on whether Sai-shiot was excluded from the linguistic data I had. If necessary, inquiries may be sent to the relevant authorities, but a positive response is not expected. --Sotiale (talk) 08:05, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
In some of their official data, 'Jejunmal' is used, and "spellings not mentioned separately are written according to the Korean spelling". --Sotiale (talk) 08:13, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

User:Caden99 has respawned as User:Caden000[edit]

And is continuing the same vandalism under the new account. I've also posted about it on Wikidata. Could you globally lock that one too please and revert their additions? Thanks! Yupik (talk) 20:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yupik, thanks for letting me know. I didn't remember this case at first, so I couldn't handle it right away. I just dealt with it now. --Sotiale (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! -Yupik (talk) 11:03, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Help for Global lock for LTA of Nipponese Dog Calvero[edit]

Sorry to bother you here, as this request(Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_影武者(Nipponese_Dog_Calvero)) has not been processed by another Stewards for a long time. Can you also recheck sleepers and IP block? Thanks. Willy1018 (talk) 01:23, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 02:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Unwarranted blocking, stalking and cyberbullying from the Chinese version of Wikipedia[edit]

검사자/관리자님 안녕하세요 저는 위키피디아를 몇달전 시작하여 한국어, 영어, 일본어 그리고 최근 무근거로 부당하게 제가 5년전 계정이랑 같은 사람이라면서 차단당한 중국어로 편집을 하고 있습니다. 그런데 중국에서 제가 한국인을 중국의 일부라고 부당하게 주장하는 내용을 논문 및 중국 공식 자료를 근거로 객관적으로 수정하는 등 편집을 했다고 갑자기 마녀사냥으로 검사자/관리자님께서 내리신 판단을 부정한 후, 저를 차단하고 영어, 일본어, 한국어 위키 편집도 차단하겠다고 협박하고 있는 상황입니다. (제가 한국인과 조선족의 의미와 국적이 객관적으로 다르다고 했다고 즉 본인들의 의견과 다르다고 해서) 저를 스토킹하는 중국 계정들이 있습니다. 저보고 제가 협박을 했다고 했는데 저는 한중관계를 파괴하는 편집을 하지말라고 말한거 밖에 없습니다. 그리고 자꾸 저를 근거없는 인신공격을 하고 괴뢰 라고 부르고 있습니다. 이럴 땐 어떻게 대응해야할까요? 저는 계속해서 건강하고 중립적이며 긍정적인 방향으로 위키피디아 한국어, 영어, 일본어로 기여를 하고 싶습니다. 저도 위키 본사에 말씀드리면 될까요? 감사드립니다.

Dear Inspector/Administrator,

I began contributing to Wikipedia a few months ago, editing in Korean, English, Japanese, and recently in Chinese. However, I have been unjustly blocked based on baseless claims of being associated with an account from five years ago. In my edits, I've aimed to objectively correct content, especially those that wrongly claim Koreans as part of China, using scholarly articles and official Chinese documents for accuracy. However, this has led to accusations and a form of witch-hunt against me. An administrator has now threatened to block my access to editing in English, Japanese, and Korean Wikipedia as well.

Additionally, there is an account that appears to be stalking me, falsely accusing me of making threats, when all I have done is advise against edits that could harm Korea-China relations. I am also being subjected to groundless personal attacks and derogatory labels.

In this situation, what would be the best course of action? I am committed to continuing my contributions to Wikipedia in Korean, English, and Japanese in a healthy, neutral, and positive manner. Should I also report this to the main office of Wikipedia? Thank you for your assistance. Oakwoodic (talk) 16:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

[14]이 링크를 참조 부탁 드립니다. 저에 대한 스토킹과 탄압, 발언 및 편집의 자유를 억제하는 독재자 같은 공격에 너무 억울합니다. 잘 부탁 드립니다. 감사합니다. Please refer to this link. I am feeling unjustly oppressed due to stalking and tyrannical attacks that suppress my freedom of speech and editing. Your assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Oakwoodic (talk) 16:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Special:MobileDiff/25943168 Oakwoodic (talk) 16:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
[15] Oakwoodic (talk) 17:42, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately, a steward cannot intervene in local affairs, and since I am not elected as a global arbitor, I hope you understand that there are limits to what I can do directly. Perhaps regarding my checkuser results, this is based on data left on zhwiki. Looking at enwiki's decision, it seems like they were basing their decision on your use of socks. I think the first thing to do is to unblock your enwiki blocking if you haven't used socks. --Sotiale (talk) 15:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your feedback is requested[edit]

Hello Sotiale, We are conducting a poll of global renamers and stewards regarding some future toolings related to some rename requests. Your feedback is requested at the poll on VRT WIKI. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 00:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Central kanuri[edit]

Hi @Sotiale sorry to bother you here just a ping Abt our approval of central kanuri Wikipedia. Best regards Umargana1 (talk) 09:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I am positive about the sustainability of your community's activities. However, a few points to review are bothering me a little. You are requesting a project for Central Kanuri, which corresponds to the language code knc. This language belongs to the macrolanguage kau(ISO 639-1: kr), and I am curious about this. Is your language such that it is impossible or very difficult to communicate with Manga Kanuri or Tumari Kanuri? --Sotiale (talk) 14:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank u for ur respons@Sotiale yes there's lots of difficulties in understand the dialects of each other due to the migration of manga and tumari kanuri to Cameroon and some parts of Chad has make there tongue bit different from central kanuri known as yerwa kanuri and there are not living in the same rural areas anymore.only few in both parties can understand the dialects of each other while the majoritys found it's difficult to understand each other. Which is why we moved to knc to avoid dialectical confusion in the future. See here how we discussed Abt the varieties And if there's anything pls let me know Umargana1 (talk) 15:41, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I am not sure if I will be able to reply to you in the near future, but I will discuss your answer with other colleagues for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 15:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok thank u but we hope to hear the outcome of the discussion under our proposal so we will know what to do next thank u once again and best regards Umargana1 (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Because I understand your wishes and efforts, I will try to respond as quickly as possible, but this is not a decision I make alone, so it may take time. Thank you for your understanding. --Sotiale (talk) 04:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Noted! and additional this issue its very complicated to us the community. We are ready to take advices on how to over come this issue. Thank u once again for ur time Umargana1 (talk) 09:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Umargana1: Hi, since the page you pinged is an archive, it would be inappropriate to post a reply, so I moved it here. Your proposal is in 'Kanuri', but there is some confusion about this. Is Central Kanuri the representative language of Kanuri? How is this language related to other dialects, such as Manga Kanuri and Tumari Kanuri? If you can provide me with information about the language, I can share this with other committee members to speed up discussions. --Sotiale (talk) 15:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sotiale Yes central kanuri is the representative of kanuri language academically. Yerwa Kanuri or Central Kanuri is a variety of the Kanuri language spoken mainly in adjacent parts of Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon, and Chad as well as by a diaspora community residing in Sudan. It is spoken by the Yerwa Kanuri who are the largest subgroup of Kanuri people in West and Central Africa today. Yerwa Kanuri is the largest of the Kanuri varieties, it is also used for both oral and written communication which is why we choose it as the main representative ok kanuri language in Wikipedia. Umargana1 (talk) 20:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
And about the Manga Kanuri. is a variety of the Kanuri language a Nilo-Saharan language of the Saharan branch. Manga Kanuri is spoken mainly in Niger in the regions of Zinder and Diffa along the Nigerian and Chadian borders. It also spoken by a significant number of speakers in Nigeria. Manga Kanuri is the second largest variety of the Kanuri language and is used as a trade language in Niger. Umargana1 (talk) 20:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
To clarify what it means to represent, is Central Kanuri understandable to all Kanuri speakers? To what extent is Manga Kanuri and Tumari Kanuri able to communicate with Central Kanuri? --Sotiale (talk) 15:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Central kanuri is the actual origin of the main kanuri community,Manga and Tumari are kanuri also but they are like traders which due to their migration to various countries like Niger,chad and Cameroon their tongues tend to have some slight changes due to languages they learned in their various destination, they speak to each other and understand each other Umargana1 (talk) 16:57, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @sotiale My question here is please what's the future of the central Kanuri Wikipedia? We have made request in meta ,and we are creating articles and have answered questions pertaining the kanuri varieties, and we have been very active on the test wiki but there is no proper response from the Langcom. Hope you will look into our proposal again. MohammedBama123 (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Discussions for approval are being delayed because there is an issue about what the language code for the domain should be. Your proposal, even with the name Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Kanuri, prompted us to do additional review. Currently, the appropriate method is to change the name of the proposal and discuss the project in that language if knc cannot communicate well with other Kanuri languages. --Sotiale (talk) 09:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Sotiale Are we going to make a new request on meta or are we going to make a proposal on the Langcom page ? MohammedBama123 (talk) 20:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@MohammedBama123: Just change Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Kanuri to Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Central Kanuri using the page move function. And I have a question, are all the translations here about knc(Central Kanuri)? --Sotiale (talk) 04:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Sotiale I have moved the request page to the Central Kanuri.
As for the translations, there are some few updates we like to make. But the translate wiki is not yet linked to the central Kanuri Wikipedia. MohammedBama123 (talk) 09:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata CU[edit]

Please lock the socks Wikidata:Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/BoomPanes2014 𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 12:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. --Sotiale (talk) 12:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, dear Sotiale! How are you? I would like to draw your attention to the request for comment that I made in July, 2023. As the situation has deteriorated since then towards the open vote fraud by the bureaucrat, a timely consensus on the part of stewards has become even more essential for the implemention of rules in Belarusian Classical Wikipedia. Best wishes,—W (talk) 11:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply


Hi Sotiale, I noticed that you unlocked this user. I think they belong quite clearly to this xwiki spam [16], see af:Spesiaal:GeskrapteBydraes/Stevygidog. Johannnes89 (talk) 10:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

note that other spam accounts showed a similar edit pattern of doing some newcomer tasks [17]. Johannnes89 (talk) 10:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I thought it was locked, but it seems there was an error. After it was unlocked, I checked that the pattern was the same as other accounts and tried to lock it again. Thanks again for letting me know. It should be fine now :p --Sotiale (talk) 10:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply


Turkmen talk 16:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have sent you my reply to your email. --Sotiale (talk) 03:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

About approval of Karakalpak Wiktionary full version[edit]

Dear @Sotiale. You asked me to contact to you in March about approving of the full version of Karakalpak Wiktionary project (kindly see the request page in Incubator. I couldn't find your e-mail address, that's why I'm writing here. Please, review our request if you have time. Thank you in advance. Sincerely Qaraqalpaqpan (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Qaraqalpaqpan: Thanks for letting me know. I am still very positive about the approval of your project and will discuss this with langcom for approval. --Sotiale (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good day to you @Sotiale, thank you for attention. By the way, let me explain about our current activities on Karakalpak Wiktionary: now we are inputting words in Karakalpak based on Karakalpak language explanatory dictionary, which includes more than 40 000 words with exlanations and examples. It was published in total 7 books in 2023. Later on we will include Russian and English meanings for some of these words (we have Karakalpak-Russian and Karakalpak-English dictionaries with about 20 000 words translations, that were published during Soviet Union time).
The approval will be good news for our community. Once the full version is open, we will announce about it to the Karakalpak society and try to involve in the project more and more volunteers. And, of course, the main role of Wiktionary will be in helping our wikipedians: they will not have to open the dictionary book for checking the correct meaning of words. They will just go to Wiktionary and check it there.
This is just for your information, if you discuss about the future of the project with affcom. Best regards Qaraqalpaqpan (talk) 10:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Having demonstrated sufficient capacity and sustainability, I believe there will be positive results from it. Good luck! --Sotiale (talk) 06:15, 19 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Dear @Sotiale, thank you for changing the status into eligible (even if it's not a big turn) and starting the discussion with other members of langcom. We are following it up here.
And we hope to see a new task on Phabricator soon about creating KaaWt. Kamsahamnida, Qaraqalpaqpan (talk) 02:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please check your ping. Thanks! --Sotiale (talk) 12:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the notification about proposal, I checked it and replied. - Qaraqalpaqpan (talk) 18:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Checkuser results[edit]

Hi Sotiale. Can you answer my question here? Bot archived the topic without waiting for your reply. Nemoralis (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

You haven't specified why you need that information(eg. for blocking, their protests and denial, etc.), but I would say 'Yes' if you are only interested in User Agent and Client Hints. --Sotiale (talk) 14:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Sotiale Hello. How did you come up with this idea? If these checks, IP addresses are kept confidential to protect the privacy of users, I agree to disclose on my behalf. Or, to check, if you came to this conclusion based on the arguments of the admin from Azwiki, then you can see that the same admin, that is, SuraShukurlu, edits the same articles as Leonid93. for example or other . But these are not proofs. I have looked at the activity of that user, that is, Leonid93. I saw his edits on articles edited by the main active users on Azwiki. He is on Wikipedia may be with the same interest as me. But this is also not proof. For my part, I should note that I apply these areas of interest not for some extraneous purposes, but simply because I understand the subject. I generally do not edit topics that I do not understand, so as not to make mistakes.Thanks in advance. Futurolog21 (talk) 03:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't care what they did. My declaration of such results is solely based on the technical data left behind by your accounts. And this is done in accordance with the privacy policy. If you have any objections to the admin's actions, please do so on azwiki. --Sotiale (talk) 03:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have no chance to see these results? Because I consider it a technical error.Futurolog21 (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
The results are visible to everyone, including you. And while plenty of people point out technical errors, it's highly unlikely. --Sotiale (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia Betawi[edit]

Hello Sotiale I would like to thank you for posting a welcome message on my user talk page on the Betawi Wikipedia but could you please change the term templat page to sablonan page? Sablonan has a similar meaning to templat Badak Jawa (talk) 16:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

The default namespaces are all based on what you translated on translatewiki. Therefore, once the wiki is created, the community should agree on words that the community deems appropriate, change them, and then request them to the Phabricator. --Sotiale (talk) 05:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply