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Meta-Wiki has a small active community. When a normal user requires the assistance of an administrator or bureaucrat for some particular task, it is not always easy to find one. This page helps users find one when they need one; asking specific admins directly via their talk pages is one way to elicit a fast response. See also: Stewards' noticeboard, Access to nonpublic information policy noticeboard, Category:Meta-Wiki policies, Category:Global policies
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Unblock request[edit]

@Peteforsyth replied to User_talk:James_Salsman#Unblock_request saying that he has no time to fully investigate this. Maybe some has. Block background at Meta:Requests_for_CheckUser_information/Archives/2012#James_Salsman. Not saying that we should approve or deny the unblock. —MarcoAurelio 16:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'd very much like some other eyes on this. To summarize a bit: James Salsman has a multi-year history of socking and evading blocks and bans, on English Wikipedia and Meta Wiki. He has also demonstrated a clear desire to maximize Wikimedia's impact in areas related to the most recent strategic plan, through a variety of email list posts etc. He was recently approved as a mentor for an IdeaLab project, by Wikimedia Foundation employee Qgil-WMF, who was aware of James' accounts' history. James may be ready to engage in better faith with our rules and social norms than he has in the past, or he may be simply trying to work his way back in through a legitimate project, without any substantial change in his views. I don't really know how to evaluate it and make a determination. Part of me wants to give him another chance; another part wants to save the Wikimedia community from the drama and distraction that will likely result if he behaves if he has, repeatedly, in the past. I don't think his current efforts require him to be unblocked. I will note that his user page on Commons, where he is not blocked, continues to carry a message that openly declares his view that the quality of Wikipedia is more important to him than an ArbCom ruling, in a rather confrontational manner. (He has agreed, however, to change that language here on Meta Wiki.) More eyes and views on this decision would be most welcome. -Pete F (talk) 03:18, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Just a correction: as the Foundation's main contact for Google Summer of Code, I posed no objection to Jsalsman proposing a project idea for this program, and eventually becoming a GSoC mentor, operating basically in Wikimedia Phabricator. This had nothing to do with IdeaLab, a space in Meta in which I have no special role.--Qgil-WMF (talk) 11:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
My apologies for the error, and thanks for the correction Qgil-WMF. -Pete F (talk) 16:04, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
I have dearchived this thread. I'd appreciate further input in here. —MarcoAurelio 09:18, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Given that there are no comments and no one is willing to unblock, I'd say that this is now a ban and the unblock request is denied. —MarcoAurelio 14:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Mailing list[edit]

Hello. I sometimes find it difficult to find a fellow admin or bureaucrat these days. Posts on this board go unattended for days, sometimes even archived without resolution. That's not okay. Taking into account the positive experience of some projects where I used to work or do currently work, and where an identical system which is now proposed is in place, I propose that a mailing list for administrators be created for Meta-Wiki, so we could reach each other in case of backlogs, discussions and so on. This will help increase the awareness of important issues to the whole administration team on this wiki which is not a home for many of them. Thank you. —MarcoAurelio 17:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Support Support I also think It could be useful for Meta as it is on other projects.--Syum90 (talk) 09:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Support Support this could be useful. – Ajraddatz (talk) 18:19, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
(Obviously I am not an eligible subscriber as I am no longer an admin here, and do not wish to reapply). Would the list be publicly or privately archived? What would the rules of confidentiality be? --Rschen7754 18:51, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
I'd say that the list should be private and maybe it shouldn't be archived (although that can be addressed later and adjusted as appropriate, and of course, if the list is private, its archives should be private as well). I personally would prefer a private list so we can have an expectation of privacy when dealing with sensitive matters, and to protect subscribers email addresses as well (some might also be using their real names on its email headers which is not something that should be disclosed to avoid doxing or harassment). With regards to confidentiality, I'd expect the standard that content shouldn't be disclosable but with the permission of the involved users, and if so, with emails and real names removed. Hope that this answers your question. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio 09:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm not in particular against the idea, but I suspect it would not be any more effective than setting up a mass message for particularly important events (should not occur too often and an opt-in system could be established). With mailing lists, I fear too many things which should happen here in public will move to our mailing inboxes. --Vogone (talk) 10:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
I thought about that. Yes, that might be a problem. Notwithstanding, decision making should happen on-wiki where at all possible. That does not barr that sysops can discuss things among ourselves, or asking questions, etc. I also like the idea of a mass message list. I feel both can be useful, and since massmessage lists support content model handling, adding and removing folks from those lists are very easy and handy. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 10:42, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
I would be OK with a massmessage list as well. I agree that lists can tend towards private decisions being made when they don't need to be. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Mailing lists work perfectly in other projects, but a massmessage list is also ok for me.--Syum90 (talk) 07:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
The English Wikipedia has just begun to use a massmessage list for administrators, say for policy announcements. Aside from not inviting the overuse of private venues, it also accounts better for the fact that not all admins there are on IRC or on mailing lists (for example, I am not). JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 08:45, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
I have created a list of Meta-Wiki regular administrators at Meta:Administrators/Mass-message list. —MarcoAurelio 13:55, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
I'd assume at meta some admins have their role for special purposes and are not available for general admin tasks. It could be an idea to appoint additional users if there is a shortage. --Krd 09:09, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I think we need more "generalist" administrators not just focused on one or two issues. The process is, however, not closed for anyone so people feeling that it could do a good job can just nominate themselves or be nominated. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio 15:33, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm still hoping that there are suitable candidates who may not be aware of the need and could be pointed to. If the thing is that there are no more people and every part of the rest will stick to those who are already in charge anywhere, we'll be lost. --Krd 17:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for translation adminship/Tulsi Bhagat[edit]

Could it be closed? Matiia (talk) 23:52, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

If no one does, I can; but since I've voted I'd prefer Barras or MF-W to do so. —MarcoAurelio 14:44, 26 October 2016 (UTC)