Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Frainc-comtou

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Frainc-comtou
submitted verification final decision
Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Wikipedia edition is language-based, not geographically-based. --Millosh (talk) 19:19, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code x-fc (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Frainc-Comtou Language name in English
Language name Frainc-Comtou Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q510561 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Franc-Comtois
  • native label (P1705) = frainc-comtou
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = dialect / Franco-Provençal
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Hello, I live in Switzerland in the canton of Jura. In my city (Delémont), the Franche-Comté occupies an important place, but we do not have Wikipedia in that language. I managed to gather some people speaking Franche-Comte and wishing to contribute to this project. There are also other people who want to contribute in IP address. We have already started to write the most important articles on Microsoft Word.


Discussion[edit]

Comments/Questions[edit]

  • Clerking comment. The last substantial work on the test project happened in 2014. I have not been able to find a request at SIL to approve a language code, no less a code approval. Note: Glottolog categorizes this as a dialect of Arpitan/Francoprovençal, language code frp. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
It seems, then, likely that if a group asked for a Francoprovençal Wikipedia that they would get it. This is not a dialect of any existing Wikipedia, and in that sense quite eligible for a Wikipedia. I encourage anyone interested in working in this Wikipedia to reopen this asking for an frp Wikipedia.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:53, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
@Prosfilaes: There already is a Franco-Provençal Wikipedia; it's at w:frp:. However, this request is for Frainc-Comtou dialect, which appears to be not a dialect of Franco-Provençal, but rather a langue d'oïl that is considered a dialect of French. SIL has historically (presumably under the influence of the French government) not given codes to langues d'oïl spoken in France besides French itself. The only other langues d'oïl with ISO codes are Norman (as spoken in the Channel Islands, but not as spoken in Normandy) and Picard and Walloon (both spoken in Belgium). The ones spoken in France are therefore "officially" considered dialects of French. Unless that changes, and an ISO code is granted for Frainc-Comtou, this request will have to remain ineligible, not because frp-wp already exists, but because fr-wp does. Antony D. Green (talk) 20:14, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I merely assumed that StevenJ81 was correct. As he said, no request for an ISO code has been made, and no ISO code will be granted until someone makes a request for one.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:43, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Support[edit]

I support its creation. I also support the creation of wikipedias in all oil languages.--93.48.247.174 13:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]