Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Gayo 2

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Gayo 2
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code gay (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Gayo Language name in English
Language name Gayo Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33286 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Gayo
  • native label (P1705) = bahasa Gayo
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Northwest Sumatran languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipèdia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipèdia usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Asia/Jakarta "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


Proposal[edit]

Actually, the Gayo language has ISO 639-3 code which is gay and already have its incubator here. But as in the previous discussion here, naming using that domain is not a good idea. On the contrary, it can make the speakers depressed. Therefore, I made a new proposal to use the domain gayo instead of gay. I think gayo would be a fine code, though there gay.wikipedia.org ought to automatically redirect or at least contain a prominent pointer of some sort. のここり 08:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Hello @N219:, unfortunatelly policy does not allow other codes if ISO code can be used. Please withdraw your suggestion, thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 21:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't see why this exception couldn't be made, just like Wawa will probably get wawa instead of www, if it ever gets a project. It's not an active concern; the Incubator shows little chance this could be a WP anytime soon. But should that change, this seems like an entirely reasonable case for an exception.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
@N219 and Prosfilaes: Per LPP: The language must ordinarily have a valid ISO 639 1–3 code (search).. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
And? Wawa and Gayo both have valid ISO 639-3 codes. LPP says nothing about what the project URL must be.--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
@Prosfilaes: For Wawa, if one day their community is active, moving of all the Wikimedia sites' portal pages can be considered, I would therefore say that Multilingual Wikisource can keep use wikisource.org, since therefore www.wikipedia.org should move to wikipedia.org, and so on. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
On one hand, we can break the Internet standard that www.x.tld is the main website under x.tld, move a half-dozen sites, and possibly confuse a bunch of people; on the other hand, we can, like we have several times before, place a wiki under a name not strictly conforming to ISO 639-3, in a way that will likely confuse no one. I can't say I understand your insistence on option one.--Prosfilaes (talk) 03:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@Prosfilaes: Well, are Ipulo users hating to start incubator projects just because their ISO code is iso639-3:ass? Surely there doesn't seem to have Ipulo Wikimedia users, but are we asking the future Ipulo users (if one day) to avoid using it? Clearly-than-god no. "www." isn't really needed for all websites, there are several sites e.g. Vimeo which don't use "www." prefixes, because they want to make language neutral environment even for Wawa users. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Please stop pinging me. It's not urgent in any way. Ipulo seems quite moot, as an isolated language with 2,500 speakers, but if there are Ipulo users, and they don't want their code to be "ass", then I don't see any reason why accommodations can't be made. Just like I don't see why accommodations can't be made for Gayo and Wawa.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Note that the ISO 639-6 is abandoned now. So, don't expect that Wawa can have test wiki, it won't, really won't. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:07, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Are you saying that the Wawa language couldn't have a test-project on Incubator? If so, please stop spreading such nonsense immediately. --MF-W 22:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg: No, I mean that they the Wawa users are unlikely to have an official Wawa Wikipedia (i.e. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/ ), not Incubator test. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:30, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Is this just a joke proposal to pontificate about "funny" ISO codes? With hardly anything happening on incubator:Wp/gay, that seems to be the case to me. --MF-W 22:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)