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This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Rejected. No ISO code, no evidence that one is being sought, and a very small number of speakers. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 14:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
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What Value Example / Explanation
Language code  (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Homşetsma Language name in English
Language name Homşetsma Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q2511850 - item has currently the following values: Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality no indication Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

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Homshetsma (Հոմշեցի - Homshetsi lizu, Homshetsma, "the Hamshen language"; Turkish: Hemşince) is spoken by Hemshinlis (Hamsheni; Turkish: Hemşinli) in East Blacksea Region of Turkey. Homshetsma is archaic Western Armenian but written in Turkish version of Latin. Homshetsma contains many Turkish and Laz lexical items. There are three basic subgroups of Hemshinli: Western Hemshinli who live in Rize and are Sunni Muslim (Armeni), Eastern Hemshinli who live in Artvin and are Sunni Muslim (Homshetsi), Northern Hemshinli who live in Georgia and Russia and are Armenian Apostolic Church member Christian (Homshentsik). Western Hemshinlis can’t speak Homshetsma although they know many Armenian words. Nornthern Hemshinlis can speak Homshetsma but they use different alphabet and also have differences. So, the writing language isn’t mutually intelligible each other. Therefore, Turkish dialect of Homshetsma is only spoken by Easten Hemshinlis in the Hopa and Borçka counties of Turkey's Artvin Province. Eastern Hemshinlis who speak Homshetsma are almost 50.000 in Turkey.


The Homshetsma alphabet is modified Turkish alphabet. The Homshetsi alphabet employs 33 characters, 8 vowels and 25 consonants.

Aa, Bb, Cc, Çç, Dd, Ee, Ff, Gg, Ğğ, Hh, Xx, Iı, İi, Jj, Kk,Qq, Ll, Mm, Nn, Oo, Öö, Pp, Rr, Ss, Şş, Tt, Uu, Üü, Vv, Yy, Zz, Ts-ts, Dz-dz

Arguments in favor[edit]

  • Support I used "hyw" instead for Homshetsma and it worked out. I already created main page of Homshetsi dialect test Wiki in Incubator. My friends (from Thousand Oaks High School) can start contributing there and make it grow! --CasetteTapeMaster (talk) 17:08, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against[edit]

Other discussions[edit]

  • If so, Homshetsma Wikipedia may created in many alphabets (Turkish, Armenian, Georgian, Russian). There isn't any Western Armenian project yet. "hye" code hasn't been used in any project so far. Why do you argue against this project. UNESCO has marked Homshetsma as a "hye" code. Just like http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lzz
    "hye" code is for "all armenian varieties". "hye" is the same code as "hy". Where ISO 639-1 exists, ISO 639-1 is used. Also note that the page at en.wp does not give any code for Homshetsma. --OosWesThoesBes 10:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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