Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Jewish Babylonian Aramaic

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This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Language is used for Torah/Talmud study in modern times, but there is really no current new work in the language, with the exception of some religious writings. Historical languages have a higher burden of proof to be eligible, and this does not meet that burden of proof. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 14:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Language code tmr (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Jewish Babylonian Aramaic Language name in English
Language name ארמי בבלי Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q33407 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality no indication Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Project name ויקיפדיא "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
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Many Torah-learned Jews do not speak Hebrew but are familiar with Rabbinic Hebrew. As there is no ISO code for that, the closest thing that such people will understand is the Babylonian Aramaic of the Talmud. Many such people will also refuse to read WP in any other language than those used for rabbinic texts.

My strong suspicion is that people who would literally only read WP in that language wouldn't even read WP in that language. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:56, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


This will probably be rejected, because Amire80 said this on langcom-l, @Ari1891adler: if you don't agree with him, you may contact his email separately. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging other users that contributed that project @Lotje, Ypnypn, Child of Garrett, and ברסלבער:. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:24, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to close and reject this, but I'm willing to let it sit until 18 August. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's already 20 Aug today. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Liuxinyu970226: I'm around much less on weekends. Why are you so impatient? We're all volunteers, remember? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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