Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Plautdietsch

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Plautdietsch status page
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  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code pdt (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Plautdietsch Language name in English
Language name Plautdietsch Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q1751432 - item has currently the following values:
  • English label = Plautdietsch language
  • native label (P1705) = Plautdietsch
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Low German
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = pdt
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 261,000±0


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you're a contributor to the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Files should be uploaded to Commons, but if you want, you can enable local file uploading.
Notes: (1) files on Commons can be used on all wikis; (2) this setting can be changed afterwards; (3) uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info); (4) localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit maniphest task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

There are about half a million speakers of Plautdietsch living in different countries across the globe -- and there is no Plautdietsch Wikipedia out there yet... Being the founder and editor of the single and international magazine Plautdietsch FRIND, the proposer (Wikipeeta) would like to gather a few more interested Plautdietsch people to edit this planned Plautdietsch Wikipedia project.

Arguments in favour[edit]

  1. The Pennsylvania German (Amish) Wikipedia language edition is already flourishing with 1492 articles. Therefore I believe that Plautdietsch (Mennonite) Wikipedia has the potential to achieve similar results if they were given the same opportunity to have their own Wikipedia language edition. --Jose77 03:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
  2. Es ist ein aktiv Project mit viele Seite. Deutschlehrer 14:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  3. In view of the Wikipedias in Dutch Low Saxon and in Plattdüütsch of Germany, a Plautdietsch Wikipedia would help to complete the possibility of expression in all forms of Low German on Wikipedia. Ni'jluuseger 17:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. This Wikipedia would be a very welcome addition! Servien 13:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  5. I'm ready to help, because I speak Plautdietsch. Strongly support.--Leamar (talk) 15:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
  6. Plautdietsch is a very distinct part of Low German and should definetely be considered a different language because it is indeed. Strongly support. --Stardsen (talk) 18:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

Plautdietsch is a part of East Low German. It is part of Low German, which is well served by nds Wikipedia. There is few activity on Plautdietsch incubator. Sarcelles 15:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The Plautdietsch communities for the most part do not live in Germany and have - for generations - had a distinct identity, experience, and linguistic development from Low German speakers in Germany. Plautdietsch in Mexico, for instance, would be influenced by the Spanish Dachsprache.
Plautdietsch speakers might find their way to a Plautdietsch Wikipedia more easily than to the Plattdüütsch one, and would so be encouraged to contribute their knowledge about their own geographies, cultures, history, et cetera. Ni'jluuseger 14:51, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
How about Low Prussian, which is more similar to Plautdietsch than it is to Low Saxon? Sarcelles 18:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Since the Germans got expelled from Eastern Prussia after WW II there are no Low Prussian speaking communities anywhere except for the Plautdietsch ones. So what would be the difference or benefit of calling it Low Prussian instead of Plautdietsch? --::Slomox:: >< 07:55, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Is there a word for Low German minus Plautdietsch and Low Prussian at all?Sarcelles 18:46, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

General discussion[edit]

Jo, oba woone Schriewwies ooda Orthographie solle wi bruke? Kaun een Mensch schrift "etj" un een aundra schrift daut selwjet Wuat uk aus "ekj?" Ooda es et bäta soone Froage too vejäte, un lote de Oabeit aunfange?

Yes, but which writing-system or orthography should we use? Can one person write "etj" and another write the same word as "ekj?" Or is it better to forget such questions, and let the work begin?

Et es beta eefach auntefange ;-) Du vesteist et uk, egal auf et "ekj" ooda "etj" es, ooda nijch? Vestone es aulet, waut nedechj es. --::Slomox:: >< 17:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Localisation update[edit]

There is no observable localisation effort at Betawiki. Thanks, 06:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Localisation effort at Betawiki is observable now. 84.135.192.17 11:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Currently 53.43% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 12:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)