Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Rajasthani
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- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
|What||Value||Example / Explanation|
|Language code||raj (SIL, Glottolog)||A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...|
|Language name||Rajasthani||Language name in English|
|Language name||राजस्थानी||Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...|
|Language Wikidata item||Q13196 - item has currently the following values:
||Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.|
|Directionality||LTR||Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?|
|Links||Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.|
|Project name||"Wikipedia" in your language|
|Project namespace||usually the same as the project name|
|Project talk namespace||"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)|
|Enable uploads||no||Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.|
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
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|Project logo||This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).|
|Default project timezone||Continent/City||"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)|
|Additional namespaces||For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".|
|Additional settings||Anything else that should be set|
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I want to make it clear that Rajasthani is not a dialect, it is an independent language with its own dialects and all of its dialects are unfairly considered as dialect of Hindi to show that (Hindi) language is a strongest one
It is not on to the people who don't want to understand to say it is a dialect. Indian government never want to understand or accept the fact that a language with its own 2500 year old literature is a dialect of newly born 100 year old Hindi, it is a kind of joke Indian system is making.
They are also giving excuses about not having its own script. As everyone aware languages like Marathi, Maithili and many other gave up their own script to adopt Devanagari which same thing Rajasthani did as well.
To be fair if you look in census of 1941, you will see that a dialect spoken in Kashmir called "Gujari" was considered as a dialect of Rajasthani and later under Indian govt control it was treated as Hindi and then further later as an urdu.
Just few years ago Konkani was considered as a dialect of Marathi and now it is an independent language
Please accept views of independent international linguistics who clearly believe that Rajasthani is one of the strongest, largest and purest of of language. Indian system and india's government funded linguistics will make decision in favour of Indian government to make Hindi language strong by killing languages like Rajasthani. 50 - 80 million (2001) population in rajasthan speaks this language. Experts feel that the more dialects a language has, the richer it is. If this true, Rajasthani is richer than all the languages mentioned above as it has 73 dialects! Yet it has not been included in the eighth schedule of the constitution. It has many dictionaries and grammar books and has more than three lakh words. Hence it is definitely a full-fledged language.
So please to aware and to climb the stairs of giving rajasthani language a official status please introduce a rajasthani language wikipedia.
It is unfair with people of Rajasthan whose language and culture is been targeted by its own government to vanish it from Earth Rajashthani Standard is the common lingua franca of Rajashthani people. It is spoken by 18 million people (2001). Some of the Rajasthani speakers conflates with Hindi speakers in the census. If including the major dialects such as Dhundhari, Harauti, Mewati, Ahirwati, Jaipuri and other speakers included in the Hindi in census, the total estimated speakers of Rajasthani language will be around 30 - 35 million people. Most of the Rajasthani dialects are chiefly spoken in the state of Rajasthan but are also spoken in Gujarat, Haryana and Punjab. Rajasthani is spoken in the Bahawalpur and Multan sectors of the Pakistani provinces of Punjab and Tharparkar district of Sindh. It merges with Riasti and Saraiki in Bahawalpur and Multan areas, respectively. It comes in contact with Sindhi from Dera Rahim Yar Khan through Sukkur and Ummerkot. Many linguists (particularly Gusain, 2000b and Shackle, 1976) agree that it shares many phonological (implosives), morphological (future tense marker and negation) and syntactic features with Riasti and Saraiki. However, further inquiry is needed. A distribution of the geographical area can be found in 'Linguistic Survey of India' by George A. Grierson. In the past, the language spoken in Rajasthan was regarded as a dialect of western Hindi (Kellogg, 1873). George Abraham Grierson (1908) was the first scholar who gave the designation 'Rajasthani' to the language, which was earlier known through its dialects. Today, however, Sahitya Akademi, National Academy of Letters and University Grants Commission recognise it as a distinct language. It is taught as such in the Universities of Jodhpur and Udaipur. The Board of Secondary Education, Rajasthan included Rajasthani in the course of studies and it has been an optional subject since 1973. Since 1947, several movements[which?] have been campaigning in Rajasthan for its recognition, but it is still considered a 'dialect' of Hindi.[by whom?] Recently,[when?] the Rajasthan Government has recognised it as a state language, but there is still a long way for the language to go towards national status.[original research?] It still lacks a comprehensive reference grammar and contemporary dictionary based on a thorough linguistic survey of Rajasthan. Currently an extensive descriptive grammar of Rajasthani is being recorded. --— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vedpriyaa (talk) 07:24, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge, Rajasthani is also a macrolanguage, which includes Bagri (bgq), Gade Lohar (gda), Gujari (gju, which also has a test project), Hadothi (hoj), Malvi (mup) and Wagdi (wbr). So maybe consider moving your effects of request to one of those except gju? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Vedpriyaa and HindWIKI: ^^ --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
- I think we need some further information here, and then I need to discuss with LangCom. There is a decent amount of content in the test here, and there has been at least some sporadic contributions to it over time. The Gujari "test" is just two pages. Question is whether the content here is in "Standard Rajasthani", and whether that is the best way to go here. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)