Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Rajasthani

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Rajasthani
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code raj (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Rajasthani Language name in English
Language name राजस्थानी Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q13196 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Rajasthani
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = dialect cluster / Indo-Aryan languages, Central Indo-Aryan languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Devanagari
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 36,000,000, 12,370,010, 19,972,883
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

I want to make it clear that Rajasthani is not a dialect, it is an independent language with its own dialects and all of its dialects are unfairly considered as dialect of Hindi to show that (Hindi) language is a strongest one

It is not on to the people who don't want to understand to say it is a dialect. Indian government never want to understand or accept the fact that a language with its own 2500 year old literature is a dialect of newly born 100 year old Hindi, it is a kind of joke Indian system is making.

They are also giving excuses about not having its own script. As everyone aware languages like Marathi, Maithili and many other gave up their own script to adopt Devanagari which same thing Rajasthani did as well.

To be fair if you look in census of 1941, you will see that a dialect spoken in Kashmir called "Gujari" was considered as a dialect of Rajasthani and later under Indian govt control it was treated as Hindi and then further later as an urdu.

Just few years ago Konkani was considered as a dialect of Marathi and now it is an independent language

Please accept views of independent international linguistics who clearly believe that Rajasthani is one of the strongest, largest and purest of of language. Indian system and india's government funded linguistics will make decision in favour of Indian government to make Hindi language strong by killing languages like Rajasthani. 50 - 80 million (2001) population in rajasthan speaks this language. Experts feel that the more dialects a language has, the richer it is. If this true, Rajasthani is richer than all the languages mentioned above as it has 73 dialects! Yet it has not been included in the eighth schedule of the constitution. It has many dictionaries and grammar books and has more than three lakh words. Hence it is definitely a full-fledged language.

So please to aware and to climb the stairs of giving rajasthani language a official status please introduce a rajasthani language wikipedia.

It is unfair with people of Rajasthan whose language and culture is been targeted by its own government to vanish it from Earth Rajashthani Standard is the common lingua franca of Rajashthani people. It is spoken by 18 million people (2001).[9] Some of the Rajasthani speakers conflates with Hindi speakers in the census. If including the major dialects such as Dhundhari, Harauti, Mewati, Ahirwati, Jaipuri and other speakers included in the Hindi in census, the total estimated speakers of Rajasthani language will be around 30 - 35 million people. Most of the Rajasthani dialects are chiefly spoken in the state of Rajasthan but are also spoken in Gujarat, Haryana and Punjab. Rajasthani is spoken in the Bahawalpur and Multan sectors of the Pakistani provinces of Punjab and Tharparkar district of Sindh. It merges with Riasti and Saraiki in Bahawalpur and Multan areas, respectively. It comes in contact with Sindhi from Dera Rahim Yar Khan through Sukkur and Ummerkot. Many linguists (particularly Gusain, 2000b and Shackle, 1976) agree that it shares many phonological (implosives), morphological (future tense marker and negation) and syntactic features with Riasti and Saraiki. However, further inquiry is needed. A distribution of the geographical area can be found in 'Linguistic Survey of India' by George A. Grierson. In the past, the language spoken in Rajasthan was regarded as a dialect of western Hindi (Kellogg, 1873). George Abraham Grierson (1908) was the first scholar who gave the designation 'Rajasthani' to the language, which was earlier known through its dialects. Today, however, Sahitya Akademi, National Academy of Letters and University Grants Commission recognise it as a distinct language. It is taught as such in the Universities of Jodhpur and Udaipur. The Board of Secondary Education, Rajasthan included Rajasthani in the course of studies and it has been an optional subject since 1973. Since 1947, several movements[which?] have been campaigning in Rajasthan for its recognition, but it is still considered a 'dialect' of Hindi.[by whom?] Recently,[when?] the Rajasthan Government has recognised it as a state language, but there is still a long way for the language to go towards national status.[original research?] It still lacks a comprehensive reference grammar and contemporary dictionary based on a thorough linguistic survey of Rajasthan.[citation needed] Currently an extensive descriptive grammar of Rajasthani is being recorded. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vedpriyaa (talk) 07:24, 13 November 2015

--Please Approval this wiki .there is many contributors in this language . I want to create this wiki and I fully support in making this wiki very high level.(VSR07 (talk) 09:25, 24 June 2017 (UTC))

Discussion[edit]

To the best of my knowledge, Rajasthani is also a macrolanguage, which includes Bagri (bgq), Gade Lohar (gda), Gujari (gju, which also has a test project), Hadothi (hoj), Malvi (mup) and Wagdi (wbr). So maybe consider moving your effects of request to one of those except gju? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

@Vedpriyaa and HindWIKI: ^^ --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2018 (UTC)