Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage Pashto

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submitted verification final decision

This proposal has been approved.
The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Project is approved. See phabricator:T183706. Please continue to contribute to the test project at incubator:Wy/ps until the new wiki is created. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Language code ps (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Pashto Language name in English
Language name پښتو Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q58680 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality no indication Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Project name ويکيسفر "Wikivoyage" in your language
Project namespace ويکيسفر usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace ويکيسفر خبرې اترې "Wikivoyage talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikivoyage-Logo-ps.svg This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone UTC "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces وییپانګه: (Phrasebook:) لغاتي لارښود: (Phrasebook_talk:) لغاتي لارښود_خبرې اترې For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Extension:WikidataPageBanner Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Pashto Wikivoyage logo (svg)




The current project name and project namespace (same word) listed in the "Settings" box above (ويکيسفر) is being translated by Google Translate as "Wikisource". Is this a Google Translate mistake or is the listed name actually Pashto for "Wikisource" instead of "Wikivoyage"? (Note that the name for the project talk namespace is based on the same project name; it originally contained a space character after the underscore, which I have taken the liberty of removing). Could a native Pashto speaker please either verify or change these three names (the values of the parameters project_native, ns_project, and ns_project_talk in the {{New wiki request}} template call at the very top of this page)? If they are all correct, just say so here. - dcljr (talk) 04:27, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hei we have some translate problems in our language, and ويکيسفر is the name that people voted for. Also look at the votes of active Pashto wikipedians for: ويکيسفر
[1] the name is 100%perfect and it's is the only name Pashto which should be used here...-- Bloch khan (talk)
Google Translate seems to be hopelessly confused about this. Its translation of this discussion includes the following:

Request to change Wiki Name Wikiquote!
[…] Pashto Wikiquote is a name on Wikipedia ( Wikipedia ) while in English Wikivoyage . You are asked to vote, and save your language and future Pashto Wikisource. This name should be because of Wikiquote, which does not have any Wikipedia browsers in English translation and any Google browsers, nor do they know those words. You can vote in the name to return to Wikisource, which will be included in English and English as well ( Wikix: Wikivoyage ) !!

What the…? I guess I'll just have to take your word on this that the participants were approving a name for "Wikivoyage"! [grin] - dcljr (talk) 03:13, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand English so well, but I think your now discussing about Wikiquote. Not about Wikivoyage right? :) Bloch khan (talk)

IMO, if your community decided to say Wikivoyage as ويکيسفر, I do respect, but then how do you say "Wikisource" and "Wikiquote" in Pashto? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:55, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource:ويکيسرچينه (only name for wikisource).
( Wikiquote:ويکيويناوې) And we can also use ( or ( Wikiquote:ويکي ويناوې) there will be no problem. I personally think ويکي ويناوې easy to Search and think Bloch khan (talk)

Bloch khan: In the first line, I assume you meant to say "(only name for Wikisource)"… right? :D - dcljr (talk) 03:54, 30 September 2017 (UTC) [Now fixed. - dcljr (talk) 07:33, 1 October 2017 (UTC)][reply]

@Bloch khan: The default time zone in Pashto Wikipedia and Pashto Wiktionary is UTC. Why should this project be handled differently? StevenJ81 (talk) 15:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenJ81: because the most Pashto writers who is active in Pashto Wikivoyage and Wikipedia are from Kandahar, and Kandahar is the biggest Pashto speaker province after Peshawar in (Pakistan) and in Peshawar official and school languages is Urdu and English and maybe 1% of Peshawar can write in Pashto. Kandahar is the only biggest city in which Pashto is the only official language, and in 2018 in Kandahar more than 90% of people's mother's language is Pashto, so Kandahar is the center of Pashto language this is why timezone should be from there :-) Bloch khan (talk) 18:14, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Bloch khan: I understand that. But it's awkward to have a different default time zone for this than for the Wikipedia and Wiktionary in the same language. I suggest you start out with UTC, and then have community discussions on all Pashto projects about changing the default time zone. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@StevenJ81: Okay sir :-) Bloch khan (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]