Requests for new languages/Wikivoyage South Azerbaijani

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikivoyage South Azerbaijani
submitted verification final decision
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Please contribute to the test project. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code azb (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name South Azerbaijani Language name in English
Language name تورکجه Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q3449805 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = South Azerbaijani
  • native label (P1705) = تۆرکجه, آذربایجان دیلی‎ (Azərbaycan dili), آذربایجانجا‎ (Azərbaycanca)
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Oghuz languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = azb
  • writing system (P282) =
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 15,000,000
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community User:Koroğlu (N) , Arjanizary (N)
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikivoyage" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikivoyage talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Asia/Tehran "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

South and North Azerbaijani languages has been separated from 200 years ago. In this time they have gone different paths and now each one has a different identity; although they are mutually understandable. Russian has influenced North Azerbaijani and it borrows almost all of its scientific terms from it, while the South Azerbaijani speakers know nothing of Russian. Persian has influenced both in different ways. There are many Persian words in South Azerbaijani that the North does not have and ironically vice versa (like Persian words of xərçanəg, bərpa, digər).

Discussion[edit]

Now the similarities lie only in the grammar and in the primary words (like the similarities of all members of Turkic language family). But many common words, even like the week day names, are different. All of the scientific terms, many of the cultural term, many of the political terms are different. And these differences does not fit in one Wikivoyage. The experience also proved that.

Maybe the most obvious difference is the script. Arabic script is used at least for thousand years in both regions. It continues to be used for South Azerbaijani, while the North Azerbaijani had a very unstable century on script issue and 3 times changed the script, not to mention many times small changes of some characters in the same alphabet. So the Arabic script is not only being used currently in South Azerbaijani, but it also have been used for many centuries in North Azerbaijani too. So it is not a secondary script, but the original and most used one.

For more information about this language and its differences with North Azerbaijani, please look at this page.

  • "And these differences does not fit in one Wikipedia." - This is a proposal for a new South Azeri Wikivoyage, isn't it? Vogone (talk) 12:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, for sure! This is for AZB wikivoyage. Arjanizary (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Localisation update[edit]