Talk:Wikidirectory

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General discussion[edit]

  • @Bastenbas: Your English is fine. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:50, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
  • There's another Wikinet already. It's a humor wiki from Uncyclomedia Foundation users, though. --Stranger195 (talkcontribs) 02:59, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I guess we could use category and common website used in wiki articles to make a repository, and link such repository from portal page and single article about important theme. Due to lack of active users I am worried about the creation of many multilingual platforms, it is very dispersive. the web is not organized in language, we should encourage a multilingual platform. A theme director and language subdirectory. All in the same flexible infrastructure. --Alexmar983 (talk) 10:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
On the contrary, the web is quite organized by language, every web page (not web site) is usually in only one language. I think this project should be a wiki family like Wikipedia or Wiktionary, one wiki per language, as the proposer suggests. --Felipe (talk) 13:22, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Redesign For what it's worth, DMOZ 3.0 was released a few days ago with a dramatic change in design: https://www.dmoz.org/Justin (koavf)TCM 14:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I suggest another name for the project: WikiLinks. I think it conveys better what the wiki is about, and the word "link" is pretty much international already. --Felipe (talk) 13:05, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
@Felipe Schenone: The problem is that "WikiLinks" is taken by a Wikipedia reader. Also, it is very close to WikiLeaks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Bastenbas: I added some content to the development wiki, but please set the default language to English, the common language of Wikimedia projects. Also, I volunteer to create a development wiki on my own server, I'm an experienced freelance web developer specialized in MediaWiki and I can handle any technical request with ease, such as creating a wiki family with one wiki per language. --Felipe (talk) 15:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Felipe Schenone: (sorry for my English) Hello, thank you for you support ! I will very happy if you try a test on your own server. Indeed it's seams easy to do this project on a Mediawiki wiki. For the moment, I continue the test at [1]. I have take you admin on the test wiki. Sorry, but I can't change the default language after the creation of the wiki because I haven't access to the LocalSettings.php of the host. Thank you again for your support, it will be fantastic if you do a test on your server. Sincerely. --Bastenbas (talk) 18:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I created a development wiki family at http://www.wikinexus.org, hosted at my own server. We now have complete control over the configuration. I may have been too bold with the new name, but it's only a development wiki, although I rather like the name and would like to propose it as the official name of the project. The name Wikinexus came to me when trying to decide what domain to register for the development wiki: wikinet.org and wikilinks.org are both unavailable, so I thought of wikinets.org (plural) and wikilink.org (singular), but each had its problems, besides not being the desired domains names. The problem with Wikinet/Wikinets, in my opinion, is that they don't quite describe the project. A net, or network, is a bunch of connected nodes, but the nodes of this project (the wiki pages) are connected to nodes outside the project (external links) so the way I see it, the project doesn't really aim to create a network. Also, as pointed out by Stranger195, the name Wikinet is used by another wiki, though it's a minor one. As to Wikilinks/Wikilink, there are several problems. As pointed out by Justin, the name is taken by a relatively popular Wikipedia reader. Furthermore, I hate the fact that the letters "ili" are so close together, they are very difficult to read!!! We could style the name of the project as WikiLinks (capital L) but this wouldn't be in line with any of the other Wikimedia projects (it's Wikidata, not WikiData, Wikibooks, not WikiBooks, Wikivoyage, not WikiVoyage, etc). Lastly, a wikilink is, in the wiki jargon, a link between two wiki pages, not an external link. On the other hand, the domain wikinexus.org was available, there's no other project with the name, and the word nexus means "a connection or series of connections linking two or more things" and "a central or focal point", just what the project is! Right? Furthermore, "nexus" is a rather cool word (it has an "x" and all, lol) and Wikinexus quite flows, in my opinion.
Anyway, I created the development wiki family with three initial wikis (http://en.wikinexus.org, http://es.wikinexus.org and http://fr.wikinexus.org). I installed some basic extensions (WikiEditor, MobileFrontend, ConfirmEdit and Interwiki) and created the first pages and templates. I can add more extensions as required or requested, just let me know. The next step would be, I think, to start creating content and see what problems come up.
I also changed the logo, mainly because the previous one didn't have a transparent background which made it unusable. The new one is based on an unused logo I found at Commons and I think it's quite good. What do you think? --Felipe (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Felipe Schenone: Fantastic ! The logo is very beautiful and better that mine. Wikinexus is a good name for summarise the project. I have create an account on the french part of Wikinexus. I will continue to add websites, category and template. Can I have the admin status for remove page if needed and modify the Mediawiki's messages ? Thank you for your work. --Bastenbas (talk) 20:55, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
@Bastenbas: I'm glad you like the logo and the name, lets see what others say. I've given you admin rights at the French Wikinexus. There's no unified login system yet, so if you want admin rights at the other wikis you have to create a user at each. I'll start creating content, templates and categories at the Spanish and English Wikinexus, see you around! --Felipe (talk) 13:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I have set up a test project on the English Wikiversity. I'd use the name "Wikidirectory". As for transferring content, I'd convert the last DMOZ database dump to MediaWiki format and use a bot to copy it to the Wikimedia servers. My logo proposal would be something like this (but using actual WMF colors instead of similar-looking HTML colors, Gill Sans instead of the skin's default font, and with better proportions):
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    WIKIDIRECTORY
    KATMAKROFAN (talk) 22:53, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
@KATMAKROFAN: I think the new name you propose is perfect, it's the most natural name for a project like this. If Bastenbas agrees, I'd like to rename this project proposal from Wikinexus to Wikidirectory. Also, I think that hosting it on Wikiversity is a great idea, mainly because it will attract visitors by just being there, and because the Foundation servers have a much better response time than my poor server. So again, if Basetenbas agrees, I will start migrating the content at wikinexus.org to Wikiversity, and we can start a Spanish and a French version of Wikidirectory at the Spanish and French Wikiversities. On the other hand, your logo proposal sucks, KATMAKROFAN XD --Felipe (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
@KATMAKROFAN and Felipe Schenone: Yes I agree ! Wikidirectory is a better name. I understand the project is hosted by the Wikivesity because there are less rules ? Do you think the DMOZ database can be convert in the wiki ? It will be fantastic if the structure of categories and the website list can be reuse in Wikidirectory, we will add less work ans a very big working base. See you :) ! Bastenbas (talk) 20:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! I updated the name and logo. I looked into the importing of DMOZ data but it won't be easy. I'll try again asap and let you know what I find out. --Felipe (talk) 02:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
@Felipe Schenone: Create the project on Wikiversity cause many problems, we need many pages and categories and I think it's al little bit "install yourself" :D Furthermore I haven't admin right on Wikiversity and I don't want to saturate the delete requests. I now this it's "temporary" but... Bastenbas (talk) 18:13, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
@Bastenbas: Don't worry mate. If there's one thing worse, much worse, than a messy project, is a dead project. And at wikinexus.org, the project is receiving no visits. On Wikiversity, we'll get at least that. We can always re-migrate the content to its own server when a community emerges. But the most important aspect of any wiki project is to build a community. Without that we've got nothing. --Felipe (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
@Felipe Schenone: Ok I understand. A community is the most important thing for a wiki. I'm worry about nothing but I really want this project work you know :) Bastenbas (talk) 22:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
@Bastenbas: I think it's the best strategy. I've seen it happen with v:Wikidebate and v:WikiJournal. It will also help Wikiversity! Anyway, I've migrated the English and Spanish content already. Do you want to take care of the French? --Felipe (talk) 23:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
@Felipe Schenone: Yes of course ! But the name is a little bit difficult to translate in French. For the moment I call him "Wikirépertoire". See you ! Bastenbas (talk) 16:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

@Felipe Schenone: It's me again, the french version will be deleted because of "off topic". I think I will continue the french version test on http://fr.wikinexus.org until the project will be approve or not. I don't think there's many french interested people for the moment. Adiós :) Bastenbas (talk) 20:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

DMOZ closing[edit]

In case you haven't seen, go to https://www.dmoz.org/ --it was publicly announced today that AOL will stop supporting/hosting DMOZ in two weeks. They will retain the intellectual property but not the directory itself. Discussions are ongoing between community members about the next step. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

The link above is broken without the "www". Here's the link: https://www.dmoz.org/. Shame that AOL is closing down the directory. Are there any remaining web directories nowadays? I have to search one. --George Ho (talk) 16:41, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I found Best of the Web, JoeAnt, and HotFrog still active. I'm unsure whether "WWW Virtual Library" counts as active as it has less entries there. --George Ho (talk) 16:58, 4 March 2017 (UTC)