Talk:Wikimania 2010

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I wonder whether it is time for Wikimania to be hosted in Oceania. – Kaihsu 13:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not really "time" for any area... but a few people said that it would be more along the lines of "time" for Europe or North America to have it again, because there will have been one in Africa and one in South America two years in a row. You might want to use the Wikimedia Australia mailing list to help plan a bid for Oceania. Cbrown1023 talk 21:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


What is the median budget for the organisation ? mik@ni 15:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for info to aid bidding process[edit]

Would it be possible to have some specific information about the expected attendance and expected budget (including in-kind sponsorship) to help in determining whether a city's prospective bid is viable? There's probably some other information that would be good to know, but just for starters I'd like to see these two numbers in the bid criteria. Without these, any bid is, to a certain degree, "flying blind". Witty lama 21:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

2009 said 300-500 attendees (although I heard several times that Alexandria was 650, so maybe that is stretched a bit). --pfctdayelise 10:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
And I think 2007 had around 500 attendees, so if you assume roughly 500 to 600, then that's probably the correct ballpark. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 07:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I confirm for the attendance. Between 400 and 600 is _my_ preferred ballpark. Many more is too many more, I think, but it's a personal opinion. As for budget, it is a real difficult thing to give, since the difference in cities and countries has made the budgets drastically different. I think the budget should be thought up in different terms than overall budget. And that would be the following:
  • Location, food and AV should be covered by sponsors, whether in kind or in cash
  • Promotional material should be covered by sponsorship and can be adjusted depending on the location and the sponsors
  • Think around 40,000 USD cash for scholarships (that's a high estimate and wishful thinking)
  • Ideally, all other expenses tied to Wikimania (Board and Advisory board travel in particular) should be included in any budget
  • Think around 10,000 USD for various professional interventions (someone to take care of shcolarships, design, etc.)
  • All and all, in an ideal world, Wikimania should be completely self-funded, Foundation travel and scholarships included
I think that's about it. notafish }<';> 08:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Dual stage bidding process?[edit]

So as to reduce the workload on the eventual losing bids, would it be possible to have a two-stage process? The first stage would require certain (but not all) information after which all but the top 3-5 bids would be eliminated. Then all the rest of the information would be added to complete the bids from which a winner would be chosen.

The amount of work required to put together a bid it quite substantial and I think this would make it less demoralising and more practical for the (volunteers) who are actually doing all the planning/bidding.

Is this possible in the timeframe? Is this a reasonable suggestion? Witty lama 21:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

It is, and it isn't :-)
We've done it before, and the two-stage process has resulted in perceived unfairness because two/three cities have been brought to the second stage and not been chosen. I really think that the two stage process only defers demoralization and as such is even worse than one step process. I would advise against it. The stages however should be as they were last year, ie. have a first deadline for official bids, and a second for first jury evaluation. I think the fact that one city is going to be retained or not becomes pretty clear as soon as the second deadline kicks in. This is not about volunteers or not volunteers, about motivation or not motivation. As long as the criteria are extremely clear (and most importantly that the "geographical rotation" is clearly defined as a criteria or clearly struck out as a criteria) then people should give all they have to win the bidding process. We can't expect half-bids because people are afraid to lose, I guess that's by design what a bidding process is all about, there's a winner and some that lose :( notafish }<';> 08:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletionists and Inclusionists meet at last![edit]

Are we going to see a food fight or will this finally end the waging war? Be sure to join Wikimania and find out!

Now that's a great question... but who is going to organize that freeforallforum? -- sj | help translate |+ 19:38, 29 March 2009 (UTC)