Talk:Wikimedia LGBT/Wiki Loves Pride Featured Picture drive 2017

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Discussions prior to 2017 can be found at Talk:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2016.


The grant money has been successfully transferred as of the end of January 2017. The remaining work of writing posts for the 36 target projects and then re-requesting the central notice should complete in February 2017. -- (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Limits on volunteer availability has shifted the schedule. The launch is now planned for May, pending agreement of the central notice. -- (talk) 13:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pre-notifying project embassies[edit]

The requirement for all projects to be contacted in advance of a central notice being approved is composed of an English post to go to all Embassies for projects listed at Wikidata:Q3925302. This requirement was unplanned as it is not a normal requirement for the majority of Central notices, such as POTY or WLM projects, and consequently has resulted in a couple of extra months delay to the competition launch. -- (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Generating a list of embassies is more complex than it seems at first. To get around this, a Wikidata report has been produced, see report of Wikipedia embassies where FPC noticeboard exist.

This is a list of 31 embassies. There could be several reasons for the difference, however it seems reasonable to take this report as the definitive list. -- (talk) 13:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pre-notification text[edit]

== Wiki Loves Pride featured picture drive ==
[[File:Men kissing in IKEA.jpg|right|250px]]
Comments and feedback on the planned international LGBT+ [[m:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017|Wiki Loves Pride featured picture drive]] are welcome on the discussion page, see [[m:Talk:Wikimedia_LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017|link]].

The competition encourages high quality photographs from Pride events and other LGBT+ cultural related images to be released to Wikimedia Commons. The goal is to see a jump in the numbers of LGBT+ cultural related photographs nominated for Featured Picture status on all Wikimedia projects.

Help is needed to prepare a banner in your language! See [[:m:Grants:Project/Rapid/LGBT/Wiki_Loves_Pride_Featured_Picture_drive_2017/Banners|banner translations]].

Thank you! --~~~~

For right to left languages, <div class="mw-content-ltr"></div> should work as a wrapper, best to use a stand alone editor first and stick to notice without an image to illustrate. -- (talk) 13:28, 22 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Posts progress[edit]

Lang Embassy FPC noticeboard Status
ar ar: ويكيبيديا:سفارة ويكيبيديا:ترشيحات الصور المختارة POSTED Arabic
ba ba:Википедия:Вәкиллек Википедия:Аҙналағы рәсем/Тәҡдим POSTED Bashkir
bar bar:Wikipedia:Botschofd Wikipedia:Kandidatn fia Berige Buida POSTED Bavarian
ckb ckb: ویکیپیدیا:بالیۆزخانەی ناوخۆ ویکیپیدیا:کاندیداکانی وێنەی ھەڵبژێردراو POSTED Central Kurdish
de de:Wikipedia:Botschaft Wikipedia:Kandidaten für exzellente Bilder POSTED German
en Wikipedia:Embassy en:Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates POSTED English
es es:Wikipedia:Embajadas Wikipedia:Candidatos a recursos destacados POSTED Spanish
fa fa: ویکی‌پدیا:سفارت‌خانه ویکی‌پدیا:گزیدن نگاره برگزیده POSTED Persian
gl gl:Wikipedia:Embaixada Wikipedia:Imaxe da semana/Propostas POSTED Galacian
he he: ויקיפדיה:שגרירות ויקיפדיה:תמונה מומלצת/הוספה למומלצות/דיונים POSTED Hebrew
hi hi:विकिपीडिया:दूतावास विकिपीडिया:मुखपृष्ठ निर्वाचित चित्र/उम्मीदवार POSTED Hindi
hu hu:Wikipédia:Nagykövetség Wikipédia:Javaslatok kiemelt képekre POSTED Hungarian
id id:Wikipedia:Kedutaan Wikipedia:Gambar pilihan/Usulan POSTED Indonesian
ja ja:Wikipedia:大使館 Wikipedia:秀逸な画像の推薦 POSTED Japanese
ka ka:ვიკიპედია:საელჩო ვიკიპედია:რჩეული ფოტოები/კანდიდატები POSTED Georgian
kk kk:Уикипедия:Елшілік Жоба:Таңдаулы суреттер/Үміткерлер POSTED Kazakh
ky ky:Wikipedia:Элчилик Уикипедия:Күндүн мыкты сүрөтү POSTED Kyrgyz
min min:Wikipedia:Kadutaan Wikipedia:Gambar Nan Tapiliah/Usulan POSTED Minang
ml ml:വിക്കിപീഡിയ:Embassy വിക്കിപീഡിയ:തിരഞ്ഞെടുക്കാവുന്ന ചിത്രങ്ങൾ POSTED Malayalam
ms ms:Wikipedia:Kedutaan Wikipedia:Calon gambar pilihan POSTED Malay
pl pl:Wikipedia:Ambasada Wikipedia:Ilustracja na medal - propozycje POSTED Polish
ro ro:Wikipedia:Ambasadă Wikipedia:Propuneri pentru imagini de calitate POSTED Romanian
so so:Wikipedia:Safaarad Wikipedia:Soo Bandhigga Sawirka Xulka POSTED Somali
tr tr:Vikipedi:Büyükelçilik Vikipedi:Seçkin resim adayları POSTED Turkish
tt tt:Википедия:Илчелек Википедия:Сайланган рәсемгә кандидатлар POSTED Tatar
uz uz:Vikipediya:Elchixona Vikipediya:Tanlangan tasvir nomzodlari POSTED Uzbek
vi vi:Wikipedia:Đại sứ quán Wikimedia Wikipedia:Đề cử hình ảnh chọn lọc POSTED Vietnamese
yo yo:Wikipedia:Embassy Wikipedia:Àwòrán ọjọ́ òní POSTED Yoruba
yue yue:Wikipedia:本地大使館 Wikipedia:正圖候選 Cantonese - recommended VP was protected against edits
zh zh:Wikipedia:大使館 Wikipedia:特色圖片評選 POSTED Chinese
th th:วิกิพีเดีย:สถานทูตวิกิมีเดีย วิกิพีเดีย:ภาพคัดสรร POSTED Thai

Other projects without relevant embassies[edit]

Other projects with no local FPC process[edit]

From the top 10 most spoken languages missing from the list, based on Wikidata's list of FPC pages.

# id Language Embassy Status
1 fr French fr:Wikipédia:Ambassade POSTED
2 pt Portuguese pt: Wikipédia:Embaixada POSTED
3 bn Bengali bn: উইকিপিডিয়া:দূতাবাস POSTED
4 ru Russian ru: Википедия:Посольство POSTED
5 pa Punjabi Unknown

Posting banner in ru-wiki[edit]

@:, thanks for letting us know your plans. I'm worried about posting that banner in ru-wiki because of en:Russian gay propaganda law. Russian government can use this case to either block ru-wiki within Russia or/and impose fine upon local Wikimedia charter. --Ghuron (talk) 06:48, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There are probably two separate aspects to this issue. I'll reply to them separately.
  1. The competition may be disruptive for the Russian Wikipedia.
    This is an issue that regular participants in the Russian Wikipedia would need to address, rather than folks such as myself to impose from the outside. If this is seen as a sufficiently worrying concern, then I suggest a formal Request for Comments is created to establish and document a consensus as to whether the Russian Wikipedia, or potentially geo-locations in Russia in any language, should or should not be a project for this notice to be published. With a formal consensus documented one way or the other, the Central Notice procedure should respect that consensus.
  2. The competition may be illegal or unlawful in Russia under the Russian gay propaganda law.
    The law is intended to protect children from "propaganda of nontraditional sexual relationships". However the competition is not for photography that by itself could called propaganda. Nor is there any intent to target children. The competition is not a rights campaign and has no political agenda. The goal, as stated in the Proposal, is simply to increase the number of Featured Picture quality photographs for all projects in all languages on the theme of LGBT+ culture and history. These may be high quality photographs of any kind on this theme, even photographs of protests against LGBT+ acceptance.
    I recommend that if active Russian language contributors believe that this competition risks breaking the law in Russia, and may be a risk to the Russian Wikipedia, they contact WMF legal. As the recipient of the grant, I have taken the precaution of notifying Michelle Paulson by email of this discussion, well in advance of the Central Notice being agreed.
Thanks -- (talk) 10:02, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the prompt reply. I'm not that much worried about #2, personally I think this law is plain stupid, the whole hypothesis of "propaganda can change sexual orientation" has no scientific proof. Also I do know Jimbo's opinion regarding "wikipedia blocking" and I believe your initiative can bring a lot of good for community. But being blocked not because of wikipedia content, but because of the banner, seems a bit silly :)
Anyway, I'm not experienced meta-participant, so I'm seeking your advise. Assuming that we will have discussion at ru-wiki project chat and there will be formal consensus, which can be translated to English, would should we do next? --Ghuron (talk) 10:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suggest we then add a brief summary of the conclusion to the Central Notice request, and the CN administrators can advise on implementation. I suggest that any RfC (or equivalent), is on the basis of potentially excluding the central notice from Russian Wikipedia readers geo-located in Russia. Obviously, a Russian reader sitting in London, has no reason to be concerned about complying with Russian censorship laws. I doubt we need go further than that, unless WMF legal agrees that the notice should not run in any language for readers geo-located in Russia, which seems unlikely from what I understand so far.
Hopefully, the RfC will conclude that nothing needs to be done, as this competition is not propaganda. Thanks -- (talk) 11:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I've opened discussion below your post, but want to double-check one thing. Did I get it right that final banner will feature either this picture or similair one? --Ghuron (talk) 12:43, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No. There is no current plan for a picture. -- (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah, that makes things much easier, I don't think that text-only banner will cause much controversy --Ghuron (talk) 13:01, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]