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Wikimedia Conference 2018[edit]

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Wikimedia Conference 2018 will take place from April 20 to 22, 2018 at the Mercure Hotel in Berlin-Neukölln (same location as in 2017). User Groups must have shown signs of recent activity (within the last six months) and be up-to-date on their reporting by the eligibility deadline (December 15, 2017). User Groups may send two delegates. The registration process will start on November 24, and will end on January 15, 2018.

This might seem far away, but really we need to start discussing now who is interested in attending the conference on behalf of the WMLGBT+ User Group. There were some issues last year regarding the decision process, so I'd like to get the ball rolling now. If you are interested in attending the conference, please indicate so here, and perhaps include why you'd like to attend and/or what your goals might be. Thanks! -Another Believer (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

I am interested in getting Wiki LGBT up to current reporting and in supporting whomever wishes to go. I do not wish to volunteer to go myself. I have various projects to report, including an upcoming World AIDS Day event at the LGBT Center in NYC, and would like to talk with whomever will go so that they can share my updates. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:38, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
I suggest that the attendees of the Diversity Conference with LGBT+ related interests are approached. The fact that they are active and going to the conference (from a variety of institutions) may mean that they could be interested in representing the user group for the WMCON. There are a number of people chipping in on the Telegram group who have never been to a past WMCON, and there should be a preference for encouraging new reps. Though the criticism that bounces around about sending too many "white men" to Wikimedia events may be unfair at times, there is a benefit to be had in engaging more visible, or at least t-shirt wearing, LGBT+ women and trans folks at events. I'll put a note on the Telegram group, maybe others could craft something for Twitter, the email list and a couple of relevant talk pages or notice boards?
As per Blue, as I went last year, I'll not be putting my name in the hat. -- (talk) 14:31, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, please do whatever you can to help spread the word and encourage people to express their interest. In the past, very few people expressed interest in attending the conference and representing this group. I would be interested and willing to attend if there is limited interest, but I too would love to see new representatives. -Another Believer (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I went last year and if there is nobody who wants to go, I could do it again in 2018. It would be great if we can find someone else so that not the same persons attend every year. -- Freddy2001 talk 20:54, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm in the same boat. I'm happy to represent our group, and would be willing to attend if no one else expresses interest, but would also like to see new representation. I did not attend the conference last year, but did in 2015 and 2016. -Another Believer (talk) 01:01, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm in Berlin anyway so if it is ok Berlin I might be able to go. I don't have that much free time on my hands though. So I could drop in here and there when it is relevant but likely not attend the whole thing unless it's on a weekend. So that's my two cents. As I would like organize a Wikipedia at World pride New York 2019 if you also be an opportunity to present that and of course everything else...--Earlyspatztalk 12:26, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Registration has opened, and I believe WMLGBT+ is eligible to send two representatives. Any ideas on how to decide who should attend? Don't want to kick this can too far down the road, nor do I want any individuals to be accused of making decisions without wider consensus. -Another Believer (talk) 23:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Today we had a World AIDS Day event in NYC at the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender Community Center. The number of people who participate in LGBT+ wiki events in NYC is large enough and also represents an international demographic as many people here are immigrants. At the same time, even if individuals in this group are interested in wiki, and even interested in wiki organizing, it is challenging to identify people who are that and interested in connecting with wiki organizing issues outside of LGBT topics. Some of us are meeting to talk about next steps the weekend before Monday 11 December, so I might have something to report in that week. I will ask around. Blue Rasberry (talk) 02:49, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Just to confirm on eligibility, see Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Participants'_List. Thanks everyone for letting new people have an opportunity to grow. --Nemo 13:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Nominations for representatives to attend[edit]


I nominate user:FULBERT to represent Wiki LGBT+ at the Wikimedia Conference in 2018.

User:FULBERT has been engaged with Wikimedia projects since early 2017. In that time he has attended NYC events, collaborated with Wiki Education Foundation to incorporate Wikipedia in the classroom for two classes (1) (2), attended and actively participated in Wikimania Montreal including the LGBT+ meetup, and he has made other efforts to encourage groups of Wikipedians to be more efficient either by scaling up outreach or making administrative changes to be more effective. FULBERT has day jobs as a professor at a major university in New York City and with a major national nonprofit organization in the United States but of international impact. He would be an ideal candidate to attend the Wikimedia Conference because after long conversations, we in NYC are nearing the end of what we can explain to him and his questions would be best answered by him meeting other Wikimedia community organizers at this sort of conference. I know that he is fairly new to engaging in Wikimedia projects, but as a professor who uses Wikipedia in the classroom he has demonstrated his ability to convince graduate students to contribute to Wikipedia and make them see this opportunity for their own benefit and to the mutual benefit of Wikipedia. In his nonprofit network I think that he similarly is in a position to encourage institutional engagement in Wikimedia projects if only he could access a bit more of the training and experience that he needs to speak confidently about wiki.

Although FULBERT does not take the development of LGBT+ content as his focus, he has shown special interest in helping anyone else bring this content to Wikipedia. Also, he has professional training and experience in administration and organizing, and I think that Wiki LGBT+ and the larger Wikimedia community would benefit from having more people with this background. At the conference FULBERT would advocate for greater inclusion of LGBT+ people, allies, and perspectives in every field of outreach. I also like his ideas about better integrating advocacy for LGBT+ projects with issues of fairness and equality for all demographics, because I think that gives Wiki LGBT+ synergy with other, similar groups. I think that his professional and Wikimedia background make him able to advocate in this way to an extent that anyone without his experience could not. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:24, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks for the nomination, Blue Rasberry . My work over the past year with all things Wiki, from Wiki NYC to Wikimania, its connection with nonprofits, and its link with the open education movement has convinced me it is one of our ways forward in advocating for equality, equity, and credibility as a counter to the effects of bias and fake news. I accept this nomination and, if given the opportunity to attend and represent Wiki LGBT+ at the Wikimedia Conference in 2018, will do all I can to help us move our shared work and contributions forward. FULBERT (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support I support User:Fulbert's attendance, and trust he will attempt to document and report appropriately. -Another Believer (talk) 14:41, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

@Earlyspatz: Thank you for offering to attend. However, saying "I could drop in here and there when it is relevant but likely not attend the whole thing" makes me wonder if we can send another representative who is able to be fully present and assist with documentation and reporting. Your presence in Berlin is convenient, but I think we should send 2 people who can commit to all the duties and responsibilities that come with attending the entire conference. -Another Believer (talk) 14:41, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


I would like to nominate User:Freddy2001 to represent Wikimedia LGBT+ at the Wikimedia Conference 2018.

User:Freddy2001 has been involved with Wikimedia projects since 2012, mostly on the German Wikipedia and on Commons. She has attended many Wikimedia activities and conferences, including Wikimania 2016 and 2017 (including the LGBT+ meetups), the Wikimedia Diversity Conference 2017 and German Young Wikipedian meetups (which she helps organising). She is a very keen photographer, which is useful in documenting conferences.

She has also attended the Wikimedia Conference representing Wikimedia LGBT+ before, namely last year. She has shown interest to do so again, and I think it would be valuable for this user group to have her attend. Seeing the nomination of User:FULBERT, I think they would complement each other well, given both users' background and experience.

I would also like to remind that registration closes 15 January, so if Wikimedia LGBT+ would like to send two representatives, we'd need to decide rather quickly. SPQRobin (talk) 15:15, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support This user attended last year and did good reporting at Wikimedia LGBT+/2017. This group could use the stability of continuity in representation and participation. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:51, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the nomination SPQRobin. I attended last year (Bluerasberry has linked my report) and have heard from many users on different conferences what challenges they face and what successes they have. I do a lot of work for underrepresented groups (not just limited to LGBT+ people) in the Wikimedia projects, for example the young wikimedian project. The WMCON is a precious opportunity to connect to other affiliates and work together on our goals: equality, free knowledge and open possibilities for everyone. I accept the nomination and if I will get the privilege to represent WMLGBT+, I will do everything to bring the project, our work and our values and goals forward. -- Freddy2001 talk 22:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support I support User:Freddy2001 attending. I want to acknowledge some editors' preference to rotate representatives, but I have no problem with Freddy2001 returning to contribute to the conference with WMLGBT+'s goals in mind, and help with documentation and reporting. I propose waiting a couple more days to see if any other editors express support or concerns, otherwise I believe we've selected two representatives. Thanks to all who have contributed to this discussion. -Another Believer (talk) 04:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

*bump* Since there has been no additional discussion, I support having the two reps above going ahead and registering. @FULBERT and Freddy2001: Please confirm once you've registered, thanks! -Another Believer (talk) 14:59, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Another Believer for the go ahead. I will register on this today and then report back. It will be a good opportunity to articulate some of our work and needs, per the preparation for the registration questions. FULBERT (talk) 12:28, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I am now registered for #WMCON2018, and look forward to working with Freddy2001 to represent our community at the conference. FULBERT (talk) 19:26, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I am registered for the Conference and was accepted to attend the the Learning Days. -- Freddy2001 talk 07:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the update! -Another Believer (talk) 16:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Planning for Wikimedia Conference 2018[edit]

Now that Freddy2001 and I are scheduled to attend the conference, it may be a useful time to gather input from our community here. I have some ideas and thoughts about organization, communication, and the like, though really hope to get input from our community here.

What are the greatest needs you think Wikimedia LGBT+ has that we can bring to and hope to be informed by our attending the Wikimedia Conference 2018? FULBERT (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

I am trying to locate previous reports or materials from any past Wikimedia LGBT+ representation at Wikimedia Conferences, though am not able to locate them. Can somebody point me to anything we have so I can better understand where we are starting from in this area (as we are preparing for 2018)? Pinging Another Believer, OR drohowa, Bluerasberry, Tom Morris, Shujenchang, Sou Boyy, and Freddy2001. I envision we can build off of our previous accomplishments, and welcome any insight or guidance from anybody on this. Thanks in advance! --- FULBERT (talk) 15:54, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

I wanted to include Hexatekin too! --- FULBERT (talk) 16:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

@FULBERT: I invite you to poke around Category:Wikimedia LGBT+, and pay special attention to some of the event links at Wikimedia LGBT+/Business and Wikimedia LGBT+/Wikimania. Some of the Wikimania meetup pages link to Etherpad notes. Also, our annual reports provide overviews of previous Wikimedia Conference experiences: Wikimedia LGBT+/2015, Wikimedia LGBT+/2017. I hope this helps! -Another Believer (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Oh, and just FYI, "Hexatekin" and "OR drohowa" are the same editor. -Another Believer (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Another Believer for the pointers; will do! --- FULBERT (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

I added a spot for an LGBT+ meetup at WMCon here. Freddy2001, any suggestions for day/time? --- FULBERT (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

What's about Friday, 19:30? -- Freddy2001 talk 16:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Sure Freddy2001; will add it as a suggestion. I suppose if it conflicts with dinner or too many other sessions they will let us know. --- FULBERT (talk) 17:15, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
I was going to suggest just showing up or contacting us or me, rather than having a sign-up form as some of the other groups have. Does that sound a good idea Freddy2001 due to some attendee needs? --- FULBERT (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this, Freddy2001, and wonder if perhaps we should create and link to a dedicated meetup page for this? While I do not think it is necessary for people to register, I think it would be useful to have a spot to list us, perhaps have a link to our work here, and begin to draft an agenda (even if only rough ideas). I am also wondering if that may not be a place to discuss our work overall at WikiCon related to promoting the LGBT+ opportunities, needs, and thoughts for our community? What do you think? --- FULBERT (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I created a meetup page for us at the Wikimedia Conference 2018 here Freddy2001. Anybody here, feel free to add any ideas or suggestions to it, including those who may not be attending in person. FULBERT (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Report from the Wikimedia Conference 2018[edit]

I created a new page for our user group's 2018 accomplishments and put my summary report from attending the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin as one of our representatives. I think the page (or at least my section) still needs some formatting, but I wanted to get it up while it is still timely. I will be adding notes from our LGBT+ Meetup at the Conference in the next day or two. Very interested in feedback on it. FULBERT (talk) 21:56, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I know we have a number of reports from previous Wikimedia Conferences in addition to mine above, though I think they are difficult to find. Anybody have a suggestion where they should be more clearly linked? Thinking under Activities or Business? I am happy to round them up and link them, just wondering where the most appropriate spot make be? Pinging Bluerasberry Another Believer RachelWex for thoughts --- FULBERT (talk) 12:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
I've aways tried to associate LGBT-related pages with Category:Wikimedia LGBT+. -Another Believer (talk) 17:00, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, and makes sense, though that alone may not be easy to locate for people looking for them. I will take a spin at linking to them someplace directly as well, Another Believer --- FULBERT (talk) 17:18, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, great idea, just wanted to recommend a place to start searching for related pages. -Another Believer (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Photo project for anatomy, "Normprojekt"[edit]

In 2016 Wikimedia Sverige commissioned a photo shoot called Normprojekt in which anatomical models show various body parts and poses which could be used to illustrate Wikipedia articles. The project took a queer perspective for staging the shots. I do not recall seeing this raised in Wiki LGBT+ so I thought that I would list it now. I am not sure how to catalog this with other LGBT+ projects but I think that we should collect and sort projects like this.

I am not sure if this project even has a central page describing it and linking out to where on wiki anyone has discussed or used it.

Commons:Category:Uploaded via Campaign:Normprojekt en:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anatomy/Archive_10#Wikimedia_Sweden_image_project

Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:35, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikimedia LGBT+/Portal AND Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies[edit]

I am trying to understand the differences between the Wikimedia LGBT+/Portal here and the Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies WikiProject. I envision there is sufficient overlap, but wondered if anybody has some of the history on how these two developed in different directions? --- FULBERT (talk) 15:59, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

The portal here at Meta sort of represents LGBT-related activities within the Wikimedia community in its entirety, whereas "WikiProject LGBT studies" is specific to English Wikipedia, and exists so editors can collaborate to create and improve LGBT-related content. Here at Meta, we try to bring all Wikimedia projects into the fold, and communicate between affiliates. Does this help? -Another Believer (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Also, these pages might give some additional context: Wikimedia LGBT+/Activities, Wikimedia LGBT+/Business, Wikimedia LGBT+/Interwiki. -Another Believer (talk) 16:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Very helpful summary, Another Believer. Makes me wonder about any potential overlap with communications as well; will look for that as I review the resources you pointed to both here and above. Thanks. --- FULBERT (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Share your feedback in this global Wikimedia survey[edit]

Dear Wikimedia Affiliates,
My name is María Cruz and I work for the Wikimedia Foundation on the Learning and Evaluation team. In one week or so, the Foundation is starting a global survey to learn about the experiences and feedback of Wikimedians. I am writing here, because I wanted to share with you a bit more about the project.
The survey is called "Wikimedia Communities and Contributors" and is conducted annually. We will send the survey to editors across all the Wikimedia projects, as well as Wikimedia affiliates and volunteer developers. This survey is going to be our way of making sure that we can hear feedback from a significant number of users from across the projects. This research supports editors and Wikipedia’s mission. This is our second annual CE Insights survey, and we look forward to improving it every year.
We will be contacting 2 people from each affiliate, based on the primary contact information that we have. Each affiliate will receive an additional third link which they can distribute to any leader in their chapter or user group.
Go to the project page to see the results of last year’s survey, and to see how your feedback helps the Wikimedia Foundation support communities. You can sign up to be notified about the results of the survey, or to learn how you can help with planning the survey next year.
If you have any questions or concerns about this project, please feel free to send them to Edward Galvez's talk page on Meta-Wiki or email him directly at surveys@wikimedia · org in any language. You can learn more about this project and read about frequently asked questions. You can also share your feedback on Meta-Wiki.

Thank you for your time supporting this project!
María Cruz

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for feedback on brochure about editing LGBTQ+ articles[edit]

Wiki Education is developing a guide to help students write about topics related to sexuality. The handout is meant to supplement other resources that they consult, such as an interactive training and basic editing brochures. Staff would like to get some community feedback on the draft here: User:Cassidy (Wiki Ed)/Sexuality studies. If you're interested, please provide feedback by April 18th. Thank you! -Another Believer (talk) 21:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging us about the draft of the new resource being developed on issues related to sexuality Another Believer. FULBERT (talk) 18:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

LGBT+ User Box[edit]

Do we have any Wiki user boxes related to our LGBT+ User Group? I have not located any, so wondering if one exists? --FULBERT (talk) 17:37, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Not that I know of... -Another Believer (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
@FULBERT: Everything is new in the space of wiki community organizations. There are almost no well-established Wikimedia user groups. The entire concept of a user group is new and there is no alignment in various people's imagining of what they do. Getting synced with WMF staffers' imagined role of user groups is a challenging disconnect too, because internally they have few wiki community members and as a culture have different perceptions than wiki community members.
Not only is there no wiki LGBT+ user group box, I am not aware of a user box for any wiki community organization. User boxes, except for language, are more of an English Wikipedia thing than for every project. The user profile on meta propagates out to the 500+ Wikimedia projects, and I think if the equivalent user box does not exist on all those other projects, then it might not render. The only boxes which are everywhere are the babel boxes for language. I could be mistaken about this.
I do not think there is an obvious way to indicate group affiliation. I see this as a problem because it should be easy for users to define affiliation somehow and user boxes are the most popular way to signal this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
There is one on Meta and Commons, I thought folks knew about it:
It uses the standard Userbox template and is in use on my user page. It renders perfectly well in multiple language Wikipedias where my User page defaults to the one on Meta, but needs to have language variations added. It would be easy enough to export specific versions to other projects if the Meta based one were not sufficient. -- (talk) 05:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing that userbox ; I added it onto my user page. Will convert to a userbox template and share that once the conference this weekend is over. FULBERT (talk) 05:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)