User talk:Tamzin

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Global+local IPBE request

Unblock request granted This blocked user asked to be unblocked, and one or more administrators has reviewed and granted this request. Request reason: Hello, friends! Due to an electrical issue in my home, I'm currently routing all of my editing through a mobile hotspot on my phone, and am unlucky enough to be using T-Mobile, which often has large ranges blocked. And as it happens, Operator873 just gblocked 2607:FB90:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • block user • block log • guc • checkip) for a year. While I can probably get access to other networks to make an edit here and an edit there, or just wait and hope T-Mobile cycles me onto an unblocked range, I was hoping to get short-term global IPBE, since otherwise there's really no guaranteed way to make frequent edits. I currently run a bot on enwiki, where all bots have bundled IPBE, and in the past have been a sysop (desysopped in good standing) on Wikidata, where all sysops have bundled IPBE, so I'd hope that I'm trusted enough to have this right for a bit. The electricians think they may be able to fix things today or tomorrow, but I'd hate to ask for just 24-48h of IPBE and then be told it'll actually be longer, and have to bother a steward again, so to play it safe I'm requesting global and local IPBE for 1 week. Thanks. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC) Unblock reason: Done ~~~~ User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC) This template should be archived normally.

block log gblock log blocklist stalktoy guc unblock gunblock contribs: +/-

• Thanks, qwer. Rest forwarded on to SRGP. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 19:01, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Many apologies. This was a mistake on my part and has already been resolved. Operator873 ^connect 20:29, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Cetacean

Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 14:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Your feedback is requested

Hello Tamzin, We are conducting a poll of global renamers and stewards regarding some future toolings related to some rename requests. Your feedback is requested at the poll on VRT WIKI. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 00:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Pings

For the record, it seems that Echo is lying to you, at least I now received two notifications. --MF-W 21:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Huh. I could have sworn I had successful/unsuccessful mention notifs turned on on this wiki. Specifically, I could have sworn that I had them turned on when I checked in between the first and second ping. But, checking now, no, both disabled... Not sure what happened there; most likely PEBCAK. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 21:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Global Rename Queue Note

@Tamzin: I was notified that you'd left a note for me about my global rename request, but I'm not sure how to reply because I can't edit that page. Hopefully it's ok for me to respond here, I'm not well versed enough with Wikipedia to know if there's another option! To your question: yes, I am aware that "truther" might have negative connotations, but I was hoping it was an obvious enough pun for that not to be an issue. Given that you picked up on it, though, I might rethink my rename request. Hfosnflanf (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Amending/clarifying my previous statement: I would like to withdraw my rename request, please (again, not sure how, sorry!). I have a different candidate username that isn't likely to create a similar misunderstanding. Hfosnflanf (talk) 17:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I've just realised that the right thing to do would probably have been to create Meta_talk:GlobalRenameQueue/Notes/126883 - oops! Hfosnflanf (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Hfosnflanf: Apologies! I'd forgotten those pages are quasi-protected. I've closed the request as withdrawn. Feel free to submit a new one, or just reply here with what username you'd like and I can do it manually. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 19:21, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I've just submitted a new request, for Galvanick Lucipher. Hfosnflanf (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

@Galvanick Lucipher: Funny enough, back in the day that would have been declined as too Satanist. Fortunately the community got over that bizarre concern. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 19:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Heh, it's a reference to a flashlight from Cryptonomicon - but then again, nobody ever accused the Satanic Panic of being based in logic, did they? — Galvanick Lucipher (talk) 19:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Rename me!

Hey, per our discussion, could you rename me as Beejamjam? Thanks! JamJamSvn (talk) 17:47, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Done :) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 18:00, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

October 2025

Hi, I hope this message finds you well. There is a U4C case in which you may be involved. Feel free to have a look. ~2025-29797-60 (talk) 14:06, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Sorry

For making a personal attack against you here regarding my ENWP block. I understand how serious it is to forum-shop cross-wiki at this point. I'm developing a better understanding of my ENWP block (that it seems to be risk management). I'll spend some time editing other projects, especially Wikivoyage (in compliance with my TBAN for the rest of its time), but not about my block. That said, I feel uncomfortable starting a discussion about the Thailand article on Wikivoyage for reasons that should be obvious to you given your desires. Faster than Thunder (talk) 21:44, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

I am rather fond of Thailand, yes. I don't see what that has to do with your ability to edit about it on any given wiki, though. Anyways, I'd encourage you to just listen to the feedback you're getting. No one is born understanding all (or any) social norms, but if there's something you're repeeatedly failing to understand, and other people are trying to explain it to you, you'll get a lot farther by listening to them than asking for the system to change for you. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 10:14, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

The problem is that Asamboi edited that article earlier this month. We are still the same people on other wikis. Comically, I lost access to the UTRS until the end of the school year just for asking for my TPA and email access on ENWP because my TBAN on ENWY is still active, even though my new edits are in compliance with that. To clarify, I had no intention of annoying Asamboi and would like to heed [1] although it is phrased impolitely and implies total avoidance, thus raising many questions about what I may and may not do. Faster than Thunder (talk) 16:12, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Does the edit you want to make there have something to do with Asamboi's edits? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 16:30, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

He edited the "Alcohol" section of the article. I am planning to propose a change to the lead and one to the "Eat" section. On this page both I and Asamboi edited on ENWP, I changed the linking, which is unrelated to how Asamboi edited that page. I know that ENWP has a large enough community to deal with Asamboi appropriately if his conduct really wasn't acceptable, especially if I am not involved; absolutely no more policing him if I am initially uninvolved. I keep thinking genuinely about what I should do in the event that Asamboi makes a fourth impolite comment towards me. I hate to see this kind of behavior come out of a longtime editor, but I didn't point out the first three and hope never to again. Faster than Thunder (talk) 17:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

The issue with your edits on enwiki following Asamboi is that you were obviously following Asamboi. Are you following Asamboi on en.voy? Or do you have an edit you want to make to the page and he coincidentally has edited it? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 17:18, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

I am not following him on WY. I was only finding other ways to improve pages that he edited on WP in an attempt to restore the relationship. I have the confidence to make the WY edit now. SHB2000 says that the first three attacks were simply phrased impolitely. Should I tell him to stop if he makes a fourth attack toward me? I hope he doesn't, and I'm not wanting sanctions against him in any way since he's otherwise a productive editor. Faster than Thunder (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

You should focus on improving the wiki and stop focusing on Asamboi. That is the only answer you are going to get from anybody on this, I'm pretty confident. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 18:05, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

en:voy:Talk:Thailand#Section "Allergies" has been initiated. Faster than Thunder (talk) 18:35, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

At this point, it feels like I'm going to be blocked for any double contact with a single other user in a short period of time, even if there is an overridingly constructive reason (i.e. removing vandalism) and/or they state that they personally are okay with it. Faster than Thunder (talk) 21:04, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Faster than Thunder: I think you're misunderstanding what the issue has been with your actions. No one cares if you interact with a user multiple times. That's a normal part of editing a wiki. What I've told you not to do, what everyone's told you not to do, is not follow a user around after getting in a dispute with them. It's as simple for that. Don't look for loopholes, don't look for technicalities, just don't do it. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 21:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

@Faster than Thunder: Re your email, I'm not interested in discussing this off-wiki. You need to learn to drop your thing with Asamboi and walk away. That's it, end of story. If that answer seems unfair to you, then so be it, but it's still the answer. If you can't contribute to a collaborative project without fixating on the actions of someone you've been in conflict with, I would suggest finding a different hobby. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 08:24, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

No more using Asamboi's contributions list. No more participation in the same discussions as him. No more participation in discussions about him. All except if he initiates an incident where I am involved or in extreme cases (in non-extreme cases, others will deal with him appropriately). These also apply to other wikis. I won't pursue the civility problems further unless another impolite comment comes. Faster than Thunder (talk) 16:02, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

One thing I've been thinking about is that other users wouldn't be blocked if they made the edits that led to my current block. Faster than Thunder (talk) 22:45, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

If you'd like to try to find a case where someone made edits like yours, and I knew about it, and I didn't block them, be my guest. This was not a hard call, FTT, and every other admin to look at this has agreed it was not a hard call. Your refusal to follow the plain meaning of en:WP:HOUND and multiple warnings elaborating on it does not make HOUND an unclear policy and does not make my enforcement of it inconsistent. I know that since your block you've talked about the role of neurodivergent people on Wikimedia, so let me say: As a neurodivergent person, I understand that when you're neurodivergent, sometimes social rules can seem inconsistent and unfair. Part of overcoming that is learning to listen when people give you feedback, even when you don't fully understand. There's lots of social norms that don't make intuitive sense to me, but that I follow because others have explained to me that they are important. When people keep telling you to stop following other editors around, just stop following other editors around! It doesn't matter if you don't understand why that's the expectation. Rules still exist when you don't understand them.

You're at a crossroads here. You can keep fighting the basic anti-harassment principles that got you blocked. You're not going to convince anyone that way, because this community is pretty solidly anti-harassment, and people will look at how you followed Asamboi and The Banner's edits and provoked disputes with them and they'll think, "If these policies prevent that kind of editing, I'm all for it." And sooner or later, because you're refusing to internalize Wikimedia's harassment norms, you'll violate them again, and you'll get blocked on a second wiki, or just have your account locked. I have seen a lot of people go down that path, really. There's no alternate ending where they succeed at convincing the rest of the Wikimedia community that the policy they violated is dumb. That story ends the same way.

The other way you can go is to start listening. You don't have to just listen to me. Ask other people about the harassment policy, why it works the way it does, why that matters. And just, believe them. Don't demand that they convince you. Accept that what they're telling you is the truth whether or not you want it to be. Keep ignoring the people you've been asked to ignore. Don't make comments about how you'll ignore them unless XYZ happens; just actually ignore them. Focus on other things. If you follow that path, you have a way back to an unblock on enwiki. But you have to commit to that. If that option isn't for you, you should save yourself the heartache of the first path, and just stop editing. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 23:06, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

I am ineligible for a global lock at this time because I am only sitewide blocked on ENWP, and my disruption is not vandalism or spam. Other users can get into multiple disputes with a single other user in a short period of time and not be blocked if they have a shared topic of interest. Faster than Thunder (talk) 23:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Yes, which would be a good defense if that's all you did, but it wasn't, and I think on some level you know that. I think I've been pretty tolerant of you throwing around some sloppy accusations against me (including in this thread that started with you apologizing for the previous round of accusations), but I really don't like being lied to. Please leave me alone, unless it's to notify me about an appeal somewhere or other. Like I said, the path you're taking only ends one way, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to talk you out of that if you can't be honest about why you were blocked. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 23:42, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

January 2026

Hello Tamzin,
You are named in a recently filed request to the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). Please review the request at m:CASE PAGE.

You are requested to enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit, so that the U4C can get a better overview of the situation. All writing should be complete, but also as concise as possible. Please ensure that you make all comments in your own section and in the discussion section only. If the U4C makes a decision, this will be binding for you and so your participation is recommended.

Please do not reply here, but on the linked case page, or on the associated talk page. If you would like to contact the U4C directly, you will find an e-mail address here. Please use the email only if privacy is necessary (e.g. personal information).

Tamzin, I truly hate to do this, but after some analysis of what's been happening for the past few months and the fact that I feel unable to defend myself from uncivility without risking backlash from you, I am filing this case.

Faster than Thunder (talk) 03:39, 11 January 2026 (UTC)

I would have left a cup of tea here for you, but that feature is on ENWP. So I will see whether I can refer to the First Law of Holes (for him, not for you). Robert McClenon (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Wiktionary Toki Pona

This might be of interest to you, I started it recently. TheTechie (talk) 19:50, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikimedia LGBT+ Community Meeting with WMF CEO Bernadette Meehan (March 20)

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