User talk:TonyBallioni

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There has been a request to inform all who voted in the RfC about interlinking accounts involved with paid editing about the following adjustment in the "statement of issue" on Sept 18th, 2017.

It was clarified that this effort will help deal not only with impersonation of specific Wikipedians but also claims of being in good standing made by those who are not.[1]

Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:59, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

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Hi TonyBallioni, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrol right to your account, as you are a trustworthy user. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Meta:Autopatrollers. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! RadiX 04:18, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Dead languages

The one in question is French, which gave me a bit of a chuckle. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Ajraddatz, heh, I was going to make fun of myself over it next time we crossed paths! I was referencing a classical Greek professor I had for two semesters who insisted on any translation of however being used that way (yes, English doesn't require it, but old habits die hard, and I think it sounds better). Always great running into you :) TonyBallioni (talk) 19:29, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Aah, sounds like a fun class. I think that taking French language classes during my undergrad made me favour simpler sentence construction, such as with the "however" at the start. But your edit summary makes more sense now :P – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:46, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

195.191.67.226

Im curious. You wrote in edit summary as LTA. Who is this? --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 12:15, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Artix Kreiger, it's Vote (X) for Change. London IP that has been harassing TNT for over a year. Also, see the en.wiki block log for confirmation and a link to the LTA case page there. It's a user who enjoys harassing en.wiki admins, but TNT has been a particular target of theirs. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Global renamer

Congratulations on becoming a renamer. Green Giant (talk) 19:28, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Face-smile.svg. Much appreciated. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:29, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes congratulate you, I have added your username to Template:List of global renamers. SA 13 Bro (talk) 22:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

TonyBallioni = TonyBaloney = TonyBologna

--Bsadowskaya account (talk) 23:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, LTA, that is the correct pronunciation. Thank you for taking the time to inform people. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Asking for some advice...

For all this irritation about being blocked from Wikipedia, should I continue waiting and have my unblock reviewed on the administrator noticeboard? I am positive I understand why I was blocked. When I first discovered such pages and discovered how to create a redirect, I completely overdid it. I agree that the block was necessary at the time to stop further disruption, but at this point, it is becoming more of a nuisance. I have only made <500 edits to the Wikipedia mainspace, and most of those edits were either redirects or me adding bogus templates that would pass quality review. I promise to the Wikipedia community (and you can add this to editing restrictions) that I will only make bold mainspace edits, sharing what I know a lot about instead of messing with HTML/CSS on user pages and being fixated on every rule. One thing I never got when I was 15 was that rules apply, but only to an extent. I thought that humongous π redirect was plausible and funny, but it was blatant vandalism. I trust Wikipedia, I believe in free knowledge, but I ended up disrupting Wikipedia just because I was too young. I wasted User:Cyberpower678's time as well as User:Iridescent's, User:NeilN's, User:Serial Number 54129's, User:Aiken drum's, and many other admin's and editor's time as well as your time just trying to push my own agenda. Ups and Downs () 22:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Once an unblock has been declined by the community, it need community consensus to lift. Most admins will not copy another request to a noticeboard before six months. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:26, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
In other words, you are asking me to wait it out... right? Ups and Downs () 22:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Okay. I guess that is just community norms and not something different. August, please come faster 😂. Ups and Downs () 01:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

Look if my outbursts came across as harassment or personal attack, I'm sorry. Had this been just an edit, I wouldn't have said anything such. But with my request not being considered despite me showing that I have reformed myself (I even let go of all the disputes), I was frustrated. I hope you don't hold it against me. Such situations can frustrate and stress a person. I know you won't unblock me, so as already said I won't make any more requests. Please let bygones be bygones. Thanks. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, MonsterHunter32. I appreciate it. My advice is to wait 6 months. Thank you. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
I will. Thanks a lot for tolerating me as I can be difficult at times. Hope I'm forgiven 6 months later. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 19:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Editing other Wiki projects

I won't bother you about unblocking as I have already asked it. Instead it is about editing on other Wikis. I hope you don't take anything against me for saying this. But editing on other Wikis can't be a way to earn back trust that I'm not socking. I have seen some editors who were mostly constructive on projects like Wikiquote but socked and evaded blocks on Wikipedia.

Also I rarely edit on other Wiki projects. The only time I did was because I got into a lenghty argument that became too political. I dropped it as arguing over it wasn't helping anybody. I don't want to brood over content for long where consensus is against me or there is no consensus.

I have stopped all block evasion and any socking. But I mostly only edit Wikipedia. Editing on other projects will not be a sure-fire way to guarantee it. But I have learnt from my past mistakes and on Wikipedia I have tried to solve a situation through discussion and consensus after learning that edit-warring won't help anyone. I hope my attempts to be cooperative and always improve are kept in mind instead. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:55, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

It obviously isn’t mandatory, but the community on en.wiki tends to look favourably on it in unblock appeals. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I know. I'm just saying it can't guarantee that the person won't do it again. I'd like to frequently edit other Wiki projects in future of course, but it won't be right to start editing frequently just to make a favourable impression. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 06:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Next steps for the wish “confirmation prompt for the rollback link”

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Hello, a while ago you participated in a feedback round about a proposal how accidental clicks on the rollback link could be avoided. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and ideas!
Looking at the feedback and the rollback situation in different wikis, the development team decided how to approach this wish: As a default, most wikis won’t have a confirmation. But users who wish to have one, can enable it in their preferences, which will add a confirmation prompt to the rollback link on the diff page and on the list pages. The prompt won’t be a pop-up, but an inline prompt like for the thanks confirmation. You can read more about the planned solution and what influenced this decision on the project page. -- Best, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 09:31, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Repetitive unblock requests

Hello Tony, I messaged this to Bbb23, but he didn't respond. While I ain't pushing unblock requests, I've found that you are allowed to make as many unblock requests you want to. He had revoked my talk page access saying I had made repetitve unblock requests. But per WP:NEVERUNBLOCK, there is no limit on number of unblock requests you can make: There is no limit to the number of unblock requests that a user may issue.

One may be blocked for disruptive use but I don’t think I was doing that and even then he had never specified if I was being disruptive. All he said was I was making repetitve requests which isn't disallowed by Wikipedia policies.

I didn't intend to make more than three requests anyway. If there is any policy prohibiting repetitive requests, please do inform me. If you don't, I may have to take this to the IRC. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 16:18, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi MonsterHunter32, en.wiki typically will revoke talk page access after the 3rd unblock request if the issues aren’t addressed. The correct place for you to appeal after you’ve gone 6 months without socking would be en:WP:UTRS. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:50, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
All right, I was trying to have it clarified. Thanks for the info. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 17:28, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Tony I didn't say it earlier but revoking my talk page access makes it look like I was trying to be disruptive and negatively affects perception about me. This is why In wanted talk page access to be restored. I have been blocked for something which doesn't exist. Talk lage access can only be revoked if the user is disruptive or vandal. I only didn't admit to block evasion because I was scared I'll be further doomed and thought it wouldn't help.

I was honest on UTRS and admitted to block evasion, but even there I was banned. I will request unblock when you have told me to but I have asked him to lift his revocation, simply because I believe it shouldn't have happened and I wasn't trying to be disruptive. If he doesn't, I hope you can please lift it because it negatively affects my image. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 06:06, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Please restore access

It's clear Bbb23 won't give back my talk page access. So I ask you to lift it. What some admins including you have done to me is unacceptable despite my block. I get my talk page access taken for repetitive requests even though wiki policies allow as many as you want, I get banned from UTRS despite being honest. Although I accept I shouldn't have threatened suiciden you kick me out despite just requesting an unblock. You even threaten when I apologise. Just because I'm blocked doesn't mean I can keep taking being pushed around. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

You should wait until your UTRS ban has expired, and then appeal using UTRS. @Ponyo and Just Chilling: do either of you know when MonsterHunter32’s UTRS ban expires? TonyBallioni (talk) 18:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
The UTRS block was enacted May 8th and is a 6-month duration (so, November 8, 2018). When informing MonsterHunter32 of the UTRS block, Just Chilling noted it was for 6-months and that MH32 could pursue the standard offer after the block expires.--Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 18:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm not appealing my block, but my talk page access being taken. My UTRS ban expires in November. But it was wrong in the first place. I was banned for being too "repetitive" despite coming clean the second time. I'm sorry if I'm not imaginative and used some same words. But when I already accepted block evasion, I shouldn't be banned especially if I'm not trying to be disruptive. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 18:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I’m not willing to restore TPA while a UTRS block is in effect. You can appeal when that is expired. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Fine. Both the TPA and UTRS ban were made under wrong reasons, the UTRS one especially so since I came clean there. I will be gathering consensus on freenode now against it. If 3 admins oppose it then I'll wait until the ban expires. Please don't kick me out again, because all I want is unjust bans to be lifted. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Also Tony, I'm rejecting the offer. While I will not sock, I will not be told what to do while I'm banned from TPA, UTRS and IRC for whatever catches someone's fancy. I'm going to request other admins to unblock and let me get on with editing. Have a good day. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

No offer was made for you to reject. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I meant the six-month offer for being unblocked and allowed to edit again on Wikipedia. While I won't sock, I will ask other admins to allow me to edit Wikipedia again. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
You won't be unblocked sooner. That's not even my opposing it, that's just my telling you how it works. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:42, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Not spiting you but even admins can be wrong sometimes. If it doesn't work, then I'll simply wait. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I will be coming to IRC tomorrow to take consensus. If 3 admins, except you since you reviewed it, oppose giving back my TPA then I'll drop it. Please don't kick me out unless I'm actually disruptive. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 16:39, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

And for the record it is you who keeps on harassing me by threatening to ban me even for asking an unblock or apologizing for me stupidly going on to threaten suicide after being upset due to being blocked. You don't trust me even though I try to improve and there's nothing mandatory in waiting for six months. I shouldn't have called you a monster earlier, but it's true you don't care. I even prove to you how my TPA and UTRS was unfairly taken against the policies, but it still didn't matter. I will not be pushed around just because I'm blocked and I'm not afraid of criticizing admins for unfair actions. Good bye. I'll come back per the six-months offer now. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 15:14, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I have never threatened to ban you or harass you: I’ve only presented you with factual information on this page or told you what I wasn’t willing to do. I didn’t kick you from IRC this time either. I was going to support your unblock in November because you were trying hard. Now I’m not as sure. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:19, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Of course you won't kick me when I already told others what you did last time, kicking me out just because I asked for unblock and even telling me to go away when I came to apologize, btw that was a nice way to "accept" my apology. You don't trust me in three months to lift my ridiculous TPA and UTRS ban, but you're going to trust in six months? You don't like me criticizing your behavior, but I won't keep shut just because you'll oppose unblocking me. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 15:35, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I promise you none of the admins in that channel would have cared if I kicked you, since you’ve been disruptive in the past. If you want to spread how abusive I’ve been, go ahead: I think I’ve been much more patient with you than most would have been. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
It's me who's been patient, taking your hostility and "magical" reasons to ban me. All you're doing now is basically saying "I am right, you are wrong." Enjoy, I don't have more time for it. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 15:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
But you're right on one thing, I shouldn't have trolled admins and others in the past. Next time I see an admin being unfair or user being disruptive, I'll complain to have him warned and de-sysoped/blocked if they continue. I've let these people run free for too long. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 15:52, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I've already said I won't contact admins again and was just directing you to my complain one last time. It's up to admins to decide about them now. Now can you please withdraw your frivolous filing and let me get on with other things? Thank you and goodbye. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 06:31, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey

Hi,

You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Re: Thank you for volunteering!

Hi Tony, sorry for the delay in replying. Receiving your message has been to me a big surprise :-) I was actually ready to step aside if an additional it.wiki renamer was felt like unnecessary. Thank you very much for your positive feedback and also for your excellent explanations about the links I've provided! About the recent changes to the it.wiki policy, luckily they have been mostly little updates or rewrites, but I can imagine how hard it must be for global renamers to stay up-to-date with every local username policy. Thank you again for your welcome!--Sakretsu (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Sakretsu, not a problem! I was very happy to see your request because it's basically what I've been arguing here for the last 6 months about getting more local sysops to apply. On en.wiki, we've gotten a lot, but I was very happy to see that other projects experience similar problems and that sysops there are taking note of it and applying. I unfortunately think that sometimes those of us active on meta forget that those of us with global rights exist to help local projects do what they want to do, and getting people who focus on making the projects that most people actually edit on to raise the issue here is so important. Anyway, I look forward to having you on the renamer team, and if you ever need anything from me on en.wiki, please don't hesitate to let me know. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:13, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry

I raged against you and other admins but after collecting my thoughts, I realise there was nobody to blame but myself. Although I do think admins misbehave with others, my way of confronting them and socking even when I knew it was wrong was unconstructive. I spoke against you cause I thought you're dictatorial. But it was always a mess of my own making and no one will trust me in a flash. I don't want to disturb you especially here but I spoke against you here too. I hope you forgive and forget any mutual acrimony, even if I'm never unblocked I won't want there to be ill-will. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem. There has never been any ill will towards you on my end. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I have one last request, please don't mind. I'd like to send you a private message of some details about socking, including why I socked and fight against others.

I won't create a drama, disable my email again when you're done talking if you want.

I'll be honest and I don't want to be misunderstood but I don't want to reveal in public. Inform me when you do. Thanks. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 10:38, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You are free to email me, and I promise I will read it, but I may not email back. I typically respond on-wiki to emails from people I don’t know that well, but I would not reveal the exact contents of the message. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks I sent it. Only wanted to explain some of my actions and be truthful. I won't disturb you again from now, though I may see you again while asking an unblock in future. Good bye till then. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 17:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Email received. Thank you for your candor. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:58, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Going off-piste

Autopatrolled is pretty much applied here without request, where it is seen to be needed, and that hasn't happened with the example case. When someone comes asking for rights when they are not active at our wiki, it does provoke questions; when they are blocked at a wiki, a request should be politely challenged with questions. You are right that it shouldn't be turned into an RfA, though this request just has elements of uncertainty and weirdness which the inaction seems to surround. I am guessing it is being left rather than declined so not wishing to disappoving, and no one wants to take responsibility for the approving. I will comment that our 'crats and sometimes other advanced rights holders are often over-righted elsewhere so, umm, distracted, though that and the over-accumulation of local rights are separate issues. [I am an advocate for the separation of powers, and not all eggs in the one basket approach]  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

I have no issue with pushback, especially from meta admins such as yourself, and my criticism was not directed at you. I was more commenting on the generic supports and opposes from non-meta-admins here that turned a pretty basic request for permissions into a vote (I supported, but was mainly criticizing the process).

I have the philosophy that meta is not a distinct local community and that if people want to help out here who are trusted on local projects, well, giving them rollback is no big deal. SITH is trusted on en.wiki, despite the block, so voting on it is a bit ridiculous, imo. The questions from meta admins who are not familiar with him are valid, the voting from people who want to decide whether someone gets a minor right on a website really isn't in my view. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Just saw this by chance. I will like to reiterate why I voice my support despite not a meta admin. I realised they are doing a good job here and elsewhere and suggested to them to apply for patroller at RFH. They did and I find it was only right to voice an endorsement of them when I encouraged them to apply. Best Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 09:55, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

To avoid confusion....

...I left this message to alert you that User:Alaa successfully renamed my account from my old username (UpsandDowns1234) to avoid a repeat of what happened the other day. I want to let you know in order to avoid confusion when you see my username and in future appeals of sanctions. Have a good day/night. Awesome Aasim 04:32, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

What are your thoughts of this on Wikipedia?

Community health initiative/Blocking tools and improvements (apologies for terrible comment I am posting on mobile) Awesome Aasim 08:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Particularly the partial blocking? Awesome Aasim 08:23, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I think partial blocks are on the top of the list of “Bad ideas from a decade ago that no one bothered to rethink.” and I will refuse to make them. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Why do you block my Wikipedia user page?

Who do you block my English Wikipedia account, so you help me and restore and appeal my block in this English Wikipedia user page, and I am not definitely a sockpuppet, understand! --Banana19208 (talk) 09:27, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I forgot something

Also seriously, I am not a definitely a sockpuppet, right? --Banana19208 (talk) 09:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)