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Change to translatewiki.net/Miraheze-Meta page translation target languages

Currently, the page translation target language configuration on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki were inherited from the "language converter page translation model".

However, this actually created several problems including the broken page transclutions with malfunctioned language converter tags exposed and using the workaround of Template:Conversion-zh, Template:LC zh. More breakages could be found on phab:T328838.

I would like to propose to use the "translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" instead on Meta-Wiki after the related proposal had been discussed, supported and approved and changes had been done on Wikifunctions.

Below are examples of the proposed translation model.

• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Project%3AAbout&action=page&language=zh-hans&filter=
• https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Project%3AAbout&action=page&language=zh-hant&filter=
• https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Miraheze+Meta&action=page&language=zh-hans&filter=
• https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Miraheze+Meta&action=page&language=zh-hant&filter=

More briefly for the zh part: The old configuration can only translate into zh while the new configuration can translate into zh-hans (for zh-Hans-CN, zh-Hans-MY, zh-Hans-SG), zh-hant (for zh-Hant-TW) and zh-hk (for zh-Hant-HK, zh-Hant-MO).

Without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we have to pass the language tag every time using message bundle messages.

-- Wrapping all of them under /zh using {{LC zh|, without using /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk
tmb.new( mb_page_title, lang_tag ):t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()

-- Using separated /zh-hans, /zh-hant, /zh-hk, we no longer need to pass the language tag :params( lang_tag ) every time
tmb.new( mb_page_title, lang_tag ):t( message_key ):plain()

With this change, every Lua module using translation bundles can be simplified:

- :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()
+ :t( message_key ):plain()

Without this change, every Lua module using translation bundles need to:

- :t( message_key ):plain()
+ :t( message_key ):params( lang_tag ):plain()

Note: "translatewiki.net page translation model"/"Miraheze Meta page translation model" refer to the same translation model.

-- Winston Sung (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

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As I didn't look into two models, is there any major difference? If yes, would you briefly describe the difference please? Hamish 16:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

More briefly for the zh part:

• The old configuration can only translate into zh, while:
• The new configuration can translate into zh-hans (for zh-Hans-CN, zh-Hans-MY, zh-Hans-SG), zh-hant (for zh-Hant-TW) and zh-hk (for zh-Hant-HK, zh-Hant-MO).

-- Winston Sung (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

A future timestamp to prevent automatic archive to unresolved topic. -- Winston Sung (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project

Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Abstract Wikipedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki that will enable users to combine functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata in order to generate natural language sentences in any supported languages. These sentences can then be used by any Wikipedia (or elsewhere).

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with votes beginning on 20 October and 17 November 2025. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on mid-December 2025. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you!

-- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 11:42, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees

Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers.

Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages:

• Affiliations Committee (AffCom)
• Ombuds commission (OC)
• Case Review Committee (CRC)

Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki. Post to the talk page or email cstwikimedia.org with any questions you may have.

For the Committee Support team,

- MKaur (WMF) 14:12, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Request for translation: Education Newsletter October 2025

October 2025 education newsletter released for translation. Please help our readers to read education newsletter in their native language. The latest education newsletter is ready for translation: here Newsletter headlines link for translation: here, to read individual articles check out: Category:Education/Newsletter/October 2025. Your support in making this newsletter multilingual means a lot. Thanks for helping share knowledge across borders! Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:01, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Depth metrics - analysis and proposal to change it

Hi guys. In the talk of the Article depth metrics page I put my analysis of it and presented some alternatives. You can find it here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia_article_depth#Depth_metrics_makes_little_sense_-_my_analysis_and_alternatives_to_it. The problem is that, as it was mentioned before, the current metrics actually doesn't make sense. It's meaningless. Could you read it and express your oppinion? I thank in advance for all comments. Tim Ocean (talk) 15:09, 6 November 2025 (UTC)