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re: Mailing to no-voters

Hello Seha. I just archived my talk page; quoted below is my answer to your recent question. —Pathoschild 01:43:21, 05 February 2009 (UTC)

Is there any rule against private mails to no-voters by steward candidates? --Seha 17:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello Seha. Unless there are specific reasons for privacy, you should contact users on their user_talk pages.
Contacting a particular voter to discuss their comment is fine. However, systematically contacting users based on their positions is called canvassing, considered disruptive, and strongly discouraged. While there is no specific policy on Meta, users caught canvassing despite requests to stop have previously been blocked indefinitely. Some wikis have specific policies against canvassing, such as the English Wikipedia. —Pathoschild 00:26:49, 05 February 2009 (UTC)

neum.co.ba

Thanks for your comment at User:COIBot/XWiki/neum.co.ba. The link is not blacklisted, and was removed simply because it was added by the same ip at several projects crosswiki. When sysops/established users reinsert a link removed because of a Coibotreport that is not something we would re-revert. Regards, Finn Rindahl 19:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

re:Danke

Hallo Seha, ok, verstehe, dann machen wir es so, solltest Du dann doch noch den Status brauchen, einfach wieder dort melden, lG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, danke, lG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Soweit ich weisz ist es geschuetzt, Du könntest die Leute dort das wissen lassen, oder Dich an User:MGodwin wenden, lG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Du kannst ihm einfach via Special:EmailUser/MGodwin oder der auf der Foundation-Seite angegebenen Adresse eine E-Mail schreiben, dass Du Dich bei denen dort nicht einloggen möchtest verstehe ich, lG., --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

BA Wiki

I am still blocked.--MacedonianBoy 11:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I am still blocked, unblock this code: 1897 --MacedonianBoy 11:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried it but does not function. I have the same problems with one user on the MK Wiki and you should unblock the IP number that I have given you.--MacedonianBoy 11:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Its ok. Thanks--MacedonianBoy 12:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: seha@bs.wikiquote

Hello Seha, sorry, I can't grant you permanent sysop status with just two supporting votes. We would grant you permanent sysopship if three active users would support Your candidacy. Leinad 17:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, IMHO it's not a huge problem. Now You have temporary access and before the status expires you can ask to prolong access or hold a new voting if the community grows. Leinad 17:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello Seha, IMHO the temporary status is OK for now, if the project grows and if more people put their vote there (just leave the voting open) it can be easily be made permanent, if that does not happen, it is no problem either, You just leave us a note on srp shortly before the status expires, and it will be handled without bureaucracy, it is just a quality control, when the local community is missing, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 21:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Global sysops/de

Hallo! Bezugnehmend auf (die Wiki oder das Wiki?!? need proofreading, typo fix): Siehe hier, alles ist Möglich. Danke fürs typo entfernen. Grüße Barras 10:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Habe bei mir geantwortet. Barras 10:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Username change

Request for bs.wikiquote done, but request on Meta have to handle local bureaucrat. BTW On Steward requests/Username changes you added request in wrong section - it should be in 'Requests for renaming an own account':> LeinaD (t) 13:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry!

Sorry! I was trying to revert the IP who was removing content! Sorry! Razorflame 23:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

local problem

That means, that local admins may do all they wish?--91.145.201.43 17:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

As i can see, it is a block of whole IP-range of a company. I would try to contact him. --WizardOfOz 01:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I´ve leave a message on his talkpage. --WizardOfOz 01:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks--94.179.185.4 01:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Block IP: 91.145.192.0/19

Hallo WizardOfOz! Benutzer Ink (ehemalige Prima_klasy4na) was seit 1.12.2009 auf einen Monat aufgrund von regelmäßigen Verletzungen der Schiedsgerichtsentscheidung blockiert. (die Entscheidung ist hier [1]) Trotz diese Blockierung verletzte er weiter die Schiedsgerichtsentscheidung aus dynamische IPs ([2],[3],[4],[5],[6],[7]), mehrfach beschimpfte andere Benutzern ([8],[9],[10]), Vandalismus war auch dabei ([11]). Bei alle diese Aktionen hat er auch die Blockierung umgegangen. Um weitere Regelverletzungen mindestens teilweise (alle verwendete IPs wollte ich ja nicht blockieren) zu vermeiden habe ich dieses IP-Intervall (der oft bei Benutzer Ink verwendet wurde) blockiert. Es wurde berichtet, dass solche Blockierungen kein Einfluss auf registrierte Benutzer hat. Und bis heute gab es keine Beschwerden. Gibt es andere Möglichkeit dieses Problem zu lösen?

Gruß, --Gutsul 15:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for welcome message;)) Hvala na dobrodošlici;) --Flopy 09:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Nema na cemu :) --WizardOfOz 09:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey, Hello WizardOfOz. I came here because I want to ask you about your comment here, I'm not really sure what you are talking about. Ok, Thank you, and have a great new year!! RubiksMaster110 02:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm so sorry to come here again, but, How do I do that? I mean, what exactly do I have to say? Thank you so much again. RubiksMaster110 18:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for blanking that page, Wizard. I seem to have lost the touch... I didn't mean to blank the page, I was simply trying to vote.--Polyglot 20:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

accidental blanking of page

Something seems to be wrong with my browser. The section was empty. I didn't purposefully blanked that page. The same thing happened when I was trying to edit this section of your talk page. Thanks for reverting my goof up. --Polyglot 20:59, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

Deutsch | English | español | français | italiano | 한국어 | Nederlands | português | русский | edit

An offering for our new administrator from your comrades... (our budget is smaller than Commons)

WizardOfOz, congratulations! You now have the rights of administrator on Meta. Please take a moment to read the Meta:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat, and Meta:Requests for deletion, but also Talk:Spam blacklist and Talk:Interwiki map), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings, or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care.

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--Mardetanha talk 13:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

THX! --WizardOfOz talk 17:02, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Glückwunsch und viel Spaß mit den "Knöppen"! -Barras talk 13:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Goodnight

I'm going to sleep now, it's night in Holland. I won't react any more and I'd hope this would be investigated objectively. MMaerkk 01:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

gr

thanks for suggestion, i just made req, cheers ;o) --Dalibor Bosits © 17:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

"Off-topic"

Don't belittle hr.wiki [12].
Second, you were the one that started with off-topic.
I've focused on candidate's work (and that's the topic), while you engaged in attacking me "Your should first create an global account and then try to do what he has done globaly... oh sorry i forgot de.wiki and your CW edits".
Third, you have no right to remove my comments that directly point to the problem [13]. Your comment was "Removed Kubura comment, this is not a voting! You should read rules above! Please without offtopic comments and essays". Someone supports and gives his/hers opinions, someone opposes and has a right to give his/hers opinion. So do I have the right to oppose. You cannot take it from me. Respect that. Respect the other users' opinions, even if you don't like them. And you even dare to call that "such kind of spam with offtopic comments". We cannot allow aclamatory mood while giving tools.
When you attack someone [14], than give him the right to defend himself or remove your attacking message.
But as I see, you've removed my defense [15], while your attack remained there.Kubura 00:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I am sorrie. I didnt now I was vandalizing this Wikimedia. How am I?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by CroForge (talk)

I see your a victim of GreaterSerbianist evil agenda. Why not suport our projekt? Thirds times the lucky chance!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by CroForge (talk)

Well? What d zou think???

OK, sorrie, ali ja mislim da me tretiraš ovalko samo zato sto sam htio crnogorsku vikipediju.

Reply

I think that your appeal is unjust toward me, cause my arguments are not exclusively political, while on the other hand, among 15 supporters are 12 Croats, 2 Bosniaks and not single Montenegrin. CroForce's behavior was long tolerated (6-hours blocks weren't appropriate punishment for his actions). There is a open call on Croatian Wikipedia which invites its users to support requests, while just two Serbs took part in this so far. It is just my good will and manners that prevents me to leave notice on Serbian village pump, but it is not necessary, 'cause this request is doomed due to his political background and lack of arguments and it will bring harm to subsequent request(s). Cheers. -- Bojan  Talk  02:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Ja pogledam svaki dan sta ima novo i sta se desava. Stalna ekipa ima sve pod kontrolom pa ne moram ja da intervenisem ;). Pozdrav. --[demicx] 18:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikivijesti, Wikizvor i Wikiknjige pregledam ponekad i pocistim sve sta je za pocistiti. Ako ima neko na nasoj wiki ko je zainteresovan za admin ovlasti, neka postavi zahtjev na odgovarajucem projektu pa cu mu ih ja dodjeliti. --[demicx] 20:30, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

19th century and Vienna dicision?

I was wondering, what kind of a historical question were you insinuating? --RichardArnolde 00:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, why should history matter at this topic?

Here it is:

Dolje potpisani znajući da jedan narod treba jednu književnost da ima i po tom sa žalosti gledajući kako nam je književnost raskomadana, ne samo po bukvici nego još i po jeziku i po pravopisu, sastajali smo se ovijeh dana da se razgovorimo kako bismo se, što se za sad više može, u književnosti složili i ujedinili. I tako smo:


1. Jednoglasnice priznali da ne valja miješajući narječja graditi novo kojega u narodu nema, nego da je bolje od narodnijeh narječja izabrati jedno da bude književni jezik; i to sve:

a) zato što nije moguće pisati tako da bi svaki mogao čitati po svojem narječju;

b) zato što bi svaka ovakova mješavina, kano ti ljudsko djelo bila gora od kojeg mu drago narječja, koja su djela božija, a

c) i zato što ni ostali narodi, kao npr. Nijemci i Talijani, nijesu od svojih narječja gradili novijeh, nego su jedno od narodnijeh izabrali te njim knjige pišu.


2. Jednoglasnice smo priznali da je najpravije i najbolje primiti južno narječje da bude književno; i to:

a) zato što najviše naroda tako govori,

b) što je ono najbliže staromu slovenskomu jeziku a po tome i svjema ostalijem jezicima slovenskijem,

c) što su gotovo sve narodne pjesme u njemu spjevane,

d) što je sva stara dubrovačka književnost u njemu spisana,

e) što najviše književnika i istočnoga i zapadnoga vjerozakona već tako piše (samo što svi ne paze na sva pravila). Po tom smo se složili da se na onijem mjestima gdje su po ovomu narječju dva sloga (syllaba) piše ije, a gdje je jedan slog, ondje da se piše je ili e ili i, kako gdje treba, npr. bijelo, bjelina, mreža, donio. A da bi svak mogao lakše saznati gdje su po ovome narječju dva sloga, gdje li jedan, i gdje treba pisati je, gdjeli e, gdjeli i - zamolili smo svi ostali g. Vuka Stefanovića-Karadžića da bi napisao o tome glavna pravila, koja su ovdje priložena.

Ako li tkogod iz kojega mu drago uzroka ne bi htio pisati ovijem narječjem, mi mislimo da bi za narod i za književno jedinstvo najprobitačnije bilo da piše jednijem od ostala dva narodna narječja, kojijem mu je volja, ali samo da ih ne miješa i ne gradi jezika kojega u narodu nema.


3. Našli smo za dobro i potrebno da bi i književnici istočnoga vjerozakona pisali h svuda gdje mu je po etimologiji mjesto, kao po starome slavenskome jeziku, kao što oni zakona zapadnoga pišu h i kao što narod naš od obadva vjerozakona na mnogo mjesta po južnijem krajevima govori.


4. Svi smo priznali da h u samostavnijeh imena na kraju u rod. množ. ne treba pisati jer mu ondje ni po etimologiji ni po općenome narodnom govoru, ni po ostalijem današnjijem jezicima slavenskijem nije mjesta. Mi smo se opominjali da će se naći književnika koji će reći da bi ovo h samo zato valjalo pisati da se ovaj padež razlikuje od ostalijeh, ili najposlije da bi ove razlike radi mjesto h valjalo pisati kakav drugi znak. Ali jedno zato što se u mnogijeh riječi ovaj padež po sebi razlikuje (npr. zemalja, otaca, lakata, trgovaca itd.), a drugo što u nas ima i drugijeh padeža jednakijeh, pa ih u pisanju nikako ne razlikujemo, i što ovakovijeh stvari ima mnogo i u drugih naroda - mi smo svi pristali na to da se ni h niti ikakov drugi znak na pomenutome mjestu ne piše, osim samo kada se iz smisla ne bi moglo razumjeti da riječ stoji u rod. mn. da se naznače akcenti (koje će nam valjati činiti i u ostalijem ovakovijem događajima).


5. Svi smo jednoglasice pristali da se pred r, gdje samo sobom slog čini, ne piše ni a ni e, već samo r neka stoji (npr. prst) i to:

a) zato što narod tako govori,

b) što književnici istočnoga vjerozakona svi tako pišu (osim jednoga, dvojice),

c) što i Česi tako pišu,

d) što su i mnoge slavenske knjige glagoljskijem slovima tako pisane,

e) što se dokazuje da ni u starom slovenskome jeziku na ovakijem mjestima nije trebalo pisati jerova ni kod r ni kod l, jer su ova oba slova na ovakijem mjestima bila samoglasna, kao i u sanskritu.


Ovo smo dakle za sad svršili. Ako da bog te se ove misli naše u narodu prime, mi smo uvjereni da će se velike smutnje književnosti našoj s puta ukloniti i da će se k pravome jedinstvu mnogo približiti.

Zato molimo sve književnike, koji upravo žele sreću i napredak narodu svojemu, da bi na ove misli naše pristali i po njima djela svoja pisali.


Beč, 28. Ožujka p. n. 1850.

Ivan Kukuljević;

Dr. Dimitrije Demeter;

Ivan Mažuranić;

Vuk S. Karadžić;

Vinko Pacel;

Franjo Miklošič;

Stefan Pejaković

Đura Daničić.

This is the whole document, written in original Serbo-Croatian. --RichardArnolde 00:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Restoration of the inflammatory part at the Montenegrin Wikipedia request page

Dear WizardOfOz,

I am addressing you since you are the respected administrator that removed "CRNOGORSKI PATRIOT"'s nationalist comments from the 3rd and still ongoing Montenegrin Wikipedia request's opening text. However, I hereby plea you to return it. Careful inspection of Wikimedia's rules and guidelines has not yielded any result to me which would grant the technical justification for such an act, meaning that anyone, including myself, could just as well go ahead and restore it. On the other hand, we do have a strong moral reasoning to restore that part of the text (albeit, quoted by me, and even referenced to your actions, but far to the bottom of the whole page).

One if he or she would appear at that page could indeed quite logically assume that CroForge is a sockpuppet who had created an attack page aimed at specifically dooming a 3rd request for a Montenegrin Wikipedia and discrediting the whole idea of the Montenegrin language itself. The whole motion is in its basis disgraceful, and mildly said at least a bit shameful for all those (I'll be completely open and direct over here, with no bad intention, sadly, including yourself) who have given voice in support. The true motives of User:CroForge should be evident to anyone who came to cast their respective votes, especially considering that apparently many of the votes have been cast without any reading and on automatism, or even more so especially after Kubura and you have invited Croatian and Bosnian Wikipedians to come and cast their votes. Deleting the two controversial sections is inevitably another strike against the Montenegrin language, because it would thus influence the potential voters (as it undeniably already has). The last thing I want is such blackness as this one taming the Montenegrin language and all of us as its native speakers. I am sure that you too do not stand for that. This request should've been immediately rejected, or better said taking into account all the events around its creation, outright deleted when it was made (thus also saving the Montenegrin language from its Wikipedia requests going 3, 4, 5,... inevitably also putting a bad word for it on Meta).

Not pointing any direction against you yourself (and commending you for your intervening measures taken against the trollish actions of the project's founder), this way (out of whatever reason may be), it could be very well perceived as deception and fraud. I humbly but strongly ask of you to return the controversial wording, making everything self-evident to future and current participants. Sincerely yours, --RichardArnolde 10:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I can´t see any need to have such attacks on the proposal site. I also asked others to comment with more civility. You can finde it on the talk page of Ivan here, or Bojan and Micki on sr.wiki. As you can see, they also remove their hard words and asked for discussion by arguments. The only one who didn´t answer is Modzzak. I hope he is gonna change his text, otherwise he is gonna be blocked by personal attacks (calling user lier). I also asked Bojan to invite Serbian wikipedians to discussion. IMO there is a need to discuss and to see what all sides think. I also think that we can make this discussion more intensiv in the right way, without words like Cetnik, Ustasa or lier. Kind regards --WizardOfOz talk 11:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Respected WizardOfOz, I am aware that we should tone down the discussion to a highly balanced level (which you can observe from my personal edits), but the text opening is not a part of the discussion. It is the introductory opening and defines the purpose of this project, which has already done irreparable damage to the Montenegrin language, and I consider quite shameful that we even maintain a (level-headed or not) discussion on it, which you stand for (and which I would, under normal conditions, naturally support). People should see the opening text in its wholeness, lest they be fooled. I must therefore insist on the return of the aforementioned paragraphs.

P.S. Did you analyze the 1850 Vienna Agreement?

Respectfully yours, --RichardArnolde 12:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

No it will not be added, becouse it is just a attack on a nationality of some users and not a part of this proposal. And please don´t remove the people who add themself. They have the same right if they want to contribute in the possible new wiki. --WizardOfOz talk 19:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
PS: I didn´t mean the Agreement, but documents before and nearly after agreement. But thx anyway --WizardOfOz talk 19:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Even despite the problematic nature of the whole event, including a fraudulent possibility?
I haven't removed Montenegrin-language speakers that added themselves. I have removed Sideshow Bob, who wasn't added by himself as I've already mentioned in my lengthy post to the below, while Braco has presented himself as a (non-speaker) original proposal of the project, which he is not.
What documents in precise? Perhaps I can offer assistance? --RichardArnolde 20:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Potvrda za hr.wiki

Ovdje potvrdjujem da sam podnijeo [ovaj] zahtjev kao IP adressa 95.211.30.36 --WizardOfOz talk 16:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Report

I report this: in edit summary you read statement [solito trolling e solite menzogne, che lagna] means [always trolling and always lies, what a drag]; I consider this action a violation of -wiki love- and personal attack! Regards--Ducatista 16:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

reply

Please check meta email :-) --.snoopy. 16:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Odgovor

Wizard moje neugodno iskusto sa bosanske wikipedije naveo si kao toleratno, što svakako nije suradnik User:Cerminator se prema meni ponio na sarkastičan, ponižavajući i neprijateljski način [16] pokazao mi je kako mi nije mjesto na bosanskoj wikipediji i "ljubazno" me poslao na hrvatsku wikipediju, nije prepostavio moju dobru namjeru, Unatoč tome ja sam mu ljubazno odgovorio

Mislim da bi trebao nove suradnike jednostavno upozoriti u čemu griješe , a ne to učititi sarkasticno, imao sam želju napisati mnogo clanaka o opcinama i gradovima u hrvatskoj, al s ovakim ponasanjem administratora ne hvala, " [17], za razliku od neprijateljski nastrojenog Cerminatora, User:Kal-El je pokazao kako se može ugodno razgovarati.

I svakako nije ugodno raditi kada administrator nastupa prema tebi napadački (Ne prema meni se nije toleratno ponašalo.) --Sokac121 11:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Dobro onda možeš obrisati da se prema meni postupala toleratno, [18] jel to nije istina,, a ako i ti kažeš da je Cerminator crna ovca ja nemam šta dodati, mislim da bi se stjuardi il ko je već na meti i ko se time bavi, pozabaviti i sa tim suradnikom. (neznam kakve veze imaju članci koje spominjes, predloške ...., sa ispravkom tvog netočnog navoda)--Sokac121 14:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

"Not English"

WizardOfOz, vidjeh što si danas napisao Sokcu121 pa želim pojasniti. Na hr:wiki se članci na stranome jeziku ne brišu odmah i brisanje članaka na stranom jeziku nije samo praksa Wikipedije na hrvatskome jeziku. Da se brišu svi i odmah, tada ove kategorije za članke kojima je potreban prijevod ne bi bilo, ali ima je, i postoji za mnoge jezike ne samo jedan ili dva. Još krajem 2006., početkom 2007. godine počelo se razmišljati na koji način smanjiti prepunjenu kategoriju održavanja Wikipedije koja se samo povećavala. Razgovaralo se koje bi skupine članaka trebalo brisati, ako se u nekom roku ne dotjeraju (npr. i slike). S vremenom se ustalila praksa slična onoj na en:wiki (Not English), neki su se članci počeli obilježavati predlošcima s vremenskim rokom koji smo najprije ručno upisivali, da bi kasnije predloške supstituirali i dobili odgovarajući rok (na što je uputila MayaSimFan). Nakon stanovitog vremena primjene, Sombrero je napisao koje članke i na koji način premještati u kategoriju neodgovarajućeg sadržaja s rokom od 14 dana. Lijep pozdrav :-) --Roberta F. 01:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

blokada

Pretpostavljam da sam rekao sve potrebno na meti gdje se priča o Kuburi. Ja sam se uključio u raspravu samo zbog komentara od usera Sokac o politici bosanske wiki i zbog tvog prozivanja moje svađe s Bugoslavom. Moram priznati da me odluka administratora po tom pitanju oborila s nogu !!! Ako ti je potrebna municija o POV na hrvatskoj wiki dovoljno je da pogledaš moje tamošnje svađe u zadnjih 6 mjeseci, ali ovo je rasprava o Kuburi pa o tome nisam pisao. Pošto su svi moji pokušaji reforme na hrvatskoj wiki propali + ja sam jedan od najomraženijh suradnika moram priznati da sam raspravu o Kuburi pokušavao iskoristiti za raspravu o reformi hrvatske wikipedije--Rjecina2 10:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Albanian speaker, perhaps?

Hi there WizardOfOz. Mardetanha said that you knew a little bit of Albanian. If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could check out this post that I made to Meta:Babel. Thanks, NW (Talk) 16:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Your recent block

He is editing his talk page. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Interlanguage link

Hi, I'm the administrator of Azerbaijani Wikipedia. Please, help me to find the page of requests concerning interlanguage links. I want to ask to change the name of our language in interwikis from "Azərbaycan" to "Azərbaycanca". That's the common request of our users. Wertuose 04:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

cur | prev) 16:38, 12 May 2010 WizardOfOz (talk | contribs) m (234 bytes) (little help, not to happen´ again)

=?plSven70 17:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Pravila saradnje

U pravu si, nisam razumeo. Nemam (još uvek) dovoljno iskustva. Ima li potrebe za posebnim pravilima za uređivanje tekstova (o biografijama živih, umrlih, skorijoj istoriji...) ili je potrebno definisati pravila za način saradnje, u smislu, ko će kada koji članak uređivati i sl.?--Antidiskriminator 21:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Laku noć. --Antidiskriminator 21:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
"Moj" stari konzensus korisnika iz Bosne, Hrvatske i Srbije kojega nitko ne koristi--Rjecina2 00:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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  • ex ofno awarens o/wp,butuser"ino![19]
  • "The fact that he lied to you about the reason for his block shows that he is not repentant. "ididnt-2muchtypin
  • "Most of his posts on Wiktionary were non-constructive“candifs begivn pl?
  • usr:sb'dno[butno telu>"lyer"2/bp-babl?
  • My recollection is that the user is a drama queen"<not pers.atak?[20]
  • if msn/sk iltalk de:)
  • bp-babl:This user, on the other hand, is very quick to make rather vitriolic demands, and accuses users who do not immediately bend over backwards of being horrible bigots. "<candey givdifs2pl?[usr-ep:irequest"proof of his misbehavior point by point"<hu maks alegatns??im2provmyinosens asitwer?
  • unblok=nopriority,wt becom open/inclusiv is[note:NOaply4 desys/indefblok ofanybd
  • I don't think his mainspace edits were all that exciting, mostly because half his edits were non-mainspace. "<canic pie diagram pl?
  • etnikslur[21]
  • bp-req"Or Sven Verelst can make that public apology for some of his edits on English Wiktionary on his W:User talk:Sven70, where he has been unblocked.[itaint-sv] --Dan Polansky 10:32, 17 May 2010 (UTC)"my abov statmnt may beconveyd-depublicgrovlintho newerbes rsubjted2o/wt i'l'v nopart in-unblk=merlymolifysme,crux=wt folows internl/eeeextrnl rulz&obligatns ofwmf[note/my initial help-req>blk nofeatur
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  • de"reconcilin""admin"[huwasNOThen,usr:lm)toldme i/oct09"nb calzunamz[email avalbl
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  • idunlikpl shoutin-otoh wenfe limp-pesn getskikd10x'genst shin,strongreactn=surpris?
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  • "vandalising pages with incorrect formatting"[22]<lablinde abuv usr
  • btw:cancontntfrom aprivat email bepostedonlin likdad??[or4wededbythat w/o askinmypermisn
  • canic difs pl="demnd","frendly hug"closur=albout hugs<falashesreasnin+sofistry=norm o/wt,esp by usr-ep&itsv.DESTRCTIV---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 06:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
    Posting excerpts from e-mails online without the persmission of the author is utterly disquieting. Where have you noticed that? Bogorm 20:08, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
  • "That particular message was sent to me five days after he had sent one containing phrases like "iherew/*unreservdly apologyz*4praps also'v'urt urfelins" and "imkinda notda persn2holdagrudg i/gnrl" and "do onto others wotu 'dlik'em2do onto u" to Logomaniac. "jusabuv[23]
  • usr:rf ge/ot atakt@wt coscamhere4help>fairproces?
  • "admin cabal“[24]>'dNOTbeso!
  • futhe"There are certain rare cases where a line is crossed, and we call a steward and just dump 'em (Wonderfool)."<ther xcus2treatme asdeydid[soiaskd2chekuseme,refusdby conrad
  • &"Because we have unreasonable administrators who, in my opinion, have blocked other admins unjustifiably in the past (off the top of my head I can remember Msh, Ruakh, [Prince Kassad], Neskaya doing that)"<nesk=a.disabld,algavmehardtim[c bp difs
  • &Until we have policies regulating what you call "blockable behavior" (=free speech censorship as I see it), that cannot be used as an argument for established editors,"<undu dikotomy newb-cabal---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 22:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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  • Please do not give your personal opinon that Sven's apologies are "pænitent and unambiguous"<anothe atemt@limitin xpresn ofdivergntopinions@wt+stilnogiv difs4"solid reasoning [bp-babl<usr:ep also'dmeblokd o/wp[25]
  • [26]"Please, try to be civil[2]. Avoid calling people names, or better yet, avoid talking about people at all and focus on substance at hand. Stop requesting people "to be cited"[3]. That you have RSI does not mean that you can behave any way you like and get away with it. Also, please do not edit this post: answer below it. --Dan Polansky 06:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)>
  • i'dntcit4abus[nthusletitgounchekd:o
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  • stuf urattribtns,opn dabibl[y,wt'd covrthat2,regrdls of1's views onlife!],ridiklesbunch<gud=nam,tru sv2010}[dc+glvs]--史凡>voice-MSN/skypeme!RSI>typin=hard!</small& gt; 23:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)<k,bete wordin:theymakedeleteries req continuali2detrimntofdic.+pl cpr2languag fe i/bp-grosabus
  • afte morsuchpost[d.pol]iask usr2stop ritin o/mytalk>notrespctd>??
  • "talking about people<t.boutWOTpldidnY=rong=NOTpsnlatak[butconstrudasdis wen newbs doso@wt
  • deyv.sensitiv,butroundin up'genstdiabldpsn=k
  • "That you have RSI does not mean that you can behave any way you like and get away with it<=slur initsownrite![acom.rsi-me+makin cmntbout pos.discrim.'dbemor prope
  • sam usr belo pointdout i'djust"rithingsout"avingivin'irefutblpruf:/-ex"Can you post a hyperlink to a website that explains how your shorthand provides a substantial advantage over normal English writing?/I can imagine that habit is habit, and that you have already automatized the way of writing that you are currently using. I do realize that changing your way is to go out of your habit, which is a mental cost. /I don't see how inserting gibberish IHATE THAT OFENSIV WORD[BUTDONT CARE BOUTMY FEELINGS,DOGO ON "I hate that offensive word (same4'disruptiv' i'v heard 1000+ times,but don't care about my feelings, do go on..." characters like ~@<IV NEVA USD THAT1] "I've never used that one"  :{}/ makes typing easier rather than harder. Plus when you create main space entries you write very well, C BP "see the Beer Parlour" making me think that you simply do not want to be understood. /So I for one would very much appreciate if you (a) either write in plain English in spite of the additional cost for you, HUMANITIES-REASONIN:INTHE END IWANA GETMYWAY,RESONABL ORNOT[SCIENS PL MAKE URWAY2WT.. or (b) at least stop using capitalized letters and start using spaces. [i xplandis!!]"There are still a lot of tricks to make the writing shorter, tricks that you are already using, like writing "yr" instead of "your", "u" instead of "you", "lite" instead of "light", etc. "Humanities - reasoning: In the end I want to get my way, reasonable or not (science please make your way to wiktionary..)"/etcetc[27]
  • Feel free to leave my questions unanswered.<belo hecomplnz"idunanswr"[lukin4dif
  • thisusrd.pol=v.insistntboutmegetinblokd[28]
  • igetaskd4difs["Can you provide hyperlinks to edits in Wiktionary in which other people are calling you names? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:%E5%8F%B2%E5%87%A1#Incivility]a.bywt-pl[igav'em,myreq.4such="wikilawrin[bp-babl
  • a."You seem to think that you can get away at Wiktionary with what Wikipedia admins don't tolerate. [samthred>wt=farworsthan wp[wichalredynedzculturchang2met itsgoalz
  • "Your comments at RFD are regularly rude. <butonly1difgivin..
  • heradmin insist o/me doin evnmortypin[istopdchin.entryz'cosoftypinload[postredznice i/genrl?ignorit=getblokd!---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 08:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

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  • futhe"In any case, the productivity issue is largely tangential; it's about behaviour. Sending abusive emails to folks is not something we tolerate. If the user had made any indication that he realized this, then I might reassess the issue. However, if you read his meta request, you'll see that he hasn't. He acts as though all of Wiktionary is some big conspiracy out to get him. I'm sorry, but I stand by my decision. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 00:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[29]<gues disabldNOToleratd eithe+izi2giv uncivilgrief+dencomplainboutreactn+mycas=notjustboutme,but a.boutalde otherppl xcluded o/dis hijakdWMF-projekt
  • "He acts as though all of Wiktionary is some big conspiracy out to get him. I'm sorry, but I stand by my decision. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 00:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)<asaid,INTOLRNS+wt=ABUSIVenvrn=prob[imNTtalkinboutemail
  • "I don't think his mainspace edits were all that exciting, mostly because half his edits were non-mainspace. <1.drawme i/bp cos ofabus+avmexpendmyFR2THENsay noentrys=pervrs[butc.bas condonzdis!!
  • "the emails range from petty insults to death threats<i'dlik2cdad,plpost!

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  • "accuses users who do not immediately bend over backwards<'Sneve'APND! of being horrible bigots<wt=incredblINTOLRNT,crux ofmy demnd[4CHANGE
  • "My recollection is that the user is a drama queen<labl
   Please do not give your personal opinon that Sven's apologies are "pænitent and unambiguous", because they are neither, as many of us have seen. My point is that you have offered nothing in this matter that we haven't already been through before. You asked if we were disinclined to consider his apology, and you have an answer with solid reasoning to support it. --EncycloPetey 02:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC) [30],abuv>deyNOpology4impropenes[but:it's about behaviour. Sending abusive emails to folks is not something we tolerate. If the user had made any indication that he realized this, -atelaes:outin=k---Please note, I have [[Repetitive Strain Injury]] and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. 08:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

s-br

poor disabled Sven70 "abuvimno lukin4sympaty[31](tho"feeling for the distress of another"def'dbe gudthing,butdey'no niceppl'dixit i.conrad,c'gros abus'[norsarcasm!]but2beENABLD2FUNCTN!!

  • repeat[byquot]of"that user has been since blocked for .. death threats.<nosubstantiatn,notslande??
  • rant[er"=labl,butnopsnlatak??
  • splitting everything"wher ispec."FTR, I'm not an actual splitter, but one needs to give linguistic things their due on a peer-to-peer level-playfield basis, whether pronunciation, word-frequency/choice or bigger differences-wise!& * As it is now, going beyond the pronunciation issue: Dutch/nl constitutes a de facto partial "umbrella/macrolanguage" header -- f.e. Veluws/Limburgish have already 'escaped', on the other hand Brabantian has even no own ISO code, so i propose the following:
   - Whether we keep them, those resp. language-entities, all together with due labeling by categorisation (including Standard Dutch/Hollands whatever the name chosen, as per my first point!), reducing duplication [unless we use a bot: I'm not going to do any redundant typing with my RSI :( ]
   - Or we split everything (Standard Flemish/Dutch + additionally all the dialects), so then labeling them in that process with respective Language headers
   - Or we do both, per bot-synchronization upkept (perhaps the most user friendly option)

"<syst.MISrepresntn ofmywordsEVNwenritnout>due?

wcwc

Thanks --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 06:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Hoćemo li da počnemo

sa ostvarivanjem saradnje i zajedničkim uređivanjem? --Antidiskriminator 10:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC)