Talk:Requests for comment/Global Wikidata Bots

A few questions

Are there really 1 million fully protected pages? Which namespaces would be targeted? Would this be temporary/permanent? How would "Blanket approval of all WD bots for a particular project" be enforced, would stewards grant local bot flags on large wikis or would this be a global Global Bot group? Savh^ñ 15:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

It would be a global bot group. My question is - if wikis can opt-out of this proposal, what is the point of having it at all? Also, is this much effort really needed to remove now-obsolete links from pages? Surely they could just sit there, being removed by local admins/bots as time progresses. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

@User:Savh: Just spotted this! There are 1 million pages still with interwiki links on them, I am not saying that they are all protected, but a proportion of them will be. The global group and wikiset would be permanent, people will always be able to add interwiki links into test on all wikis and bots will always be there to try and migrate them to wikidata and remove them from said articles. I have tidied up my wording, the proposal is not for all WD bots to have approval, this is a group for global bots and the task of removing global interwiki links only. It is highly likely there will be very few bots actually in the group, this group would function exactly a the Global bot flag does. ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 16:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

@User:Ajraddatz: The point is to make 'blanket approval' across a large number of languages much easier (the same reason we have the Global Bot group). Having to apply to 222+ wikis individually is an absolutely ridiculous task. There are bots already running globally (true globally, not just with the Global Flag) that remove these interwiki links quickly and effectively. Allowing them to edit more pages should decrease the number of articles with interwiki links remaining dramatically! ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 16:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

@Ajraddatz: In other words, this would simply make the whole approval process for bots merging interwiki links to Wikidata globally quite easier, regardless of the additional "editprotected" permission. Vogone talk 16:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Non-responding wikis

How will non-responding wikis (i.e. inactive ones) be treated? Qui tacet, consentire videtur? (as usually done for implementing the global bot policy?) Or will they not get included (as probably such wikis don't have more than 2 protected articles either)? --MF-W 17:02, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

As already stated in the proposal, they will be opted-in. @"as probably such wikis don't have more than 2 protected articles either": This global group will not be for editprotected only. It is for all globally active Wikidata bots as it facilitates the global approval process very much. Vogone talk 17:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

(Edit conflict.)"But if the project does not decide against being included, the projects will automatically be opted-in." ie. If it doesn't respond it will be included in the wikiset. ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 17:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Do you also plan to have a general discussion section about the proposed new group, or just "projects lists their decisions to [not] accept this here"? And please clarify the mode of getting the rights. Should it be like currently for global bots, or on SRGP? --MF-W 18:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I would say it should be like for global bots. The general discussion has already taken place on SRGP, so I don't think it is really necessary to open a new one here. Furthermore, this global group would only affect some local projects and I do not think a further global discussion would really help. It's up to the local projects. Vogone talk 18:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree, The same approval process as Global Bots would make things easy :) ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 19:03, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposed start date?

Is that tomorrow? (Given that the page says "ends on 3 July"). I propose to postpone that a bit to allow for refinement of the proposal & translations etc. --MF-W 21:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

If nobody objects I'll postpone it until Monday (10 May). Vogone talk 21:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 21:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)