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License changes[edit]

Hi, I'm trying to kill the GFDL. The first battle on Commons has been won, but the war isn't over.

I've started a poll on nlwiki. The gist of it: third parties can take our content, build upon it using only the GFDL (without Creative Commons) and we can't import those improvements back into Wikipedia. So I asked if there would be support for dropping the GFDL for new contributions.

In less than a day we have 8 supporters (myself included) and 5 opposers. The opposers include two opposers (2, 5) who merely oppose the format of a poll instead of a discussion thread (a poll was just more practical, also, it's not a vote), one who misunderstood that third parties don't have to adopt both licenses (1), one case of whataboutism (3) and finally one (4) who thinks you should have already tackled this problem globally.

I won't argue with (4) that perhaps you should have and in the light of being able to translate articles from other wikis, it would be the most practical to kill the GFDL everywhere at once. Although this is mainly an issue for enwiki where most articles are imported from.

Which means I have two questions for you:

  1. How/where should we have an official vote to drop the GFDL on nlwiki? Can we just have the vote on nlwiki, or does it have to be on meta? Anything else I should know?
  2. Can you help me to kill the GFDL on all wiki projects? Face-devil-grin.svg

Best regards, Alexis Jazz (talk) 19:11, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alexis Jazz, I would think nlwiki would serve, just like Commons had the vote locally. I think the Licensing update set us up for that direction - Commons going for it is pretty major, and could serve as a template for other communities to kickstart their own discussions. As for the second question - a big challenge we face is upgrading all the projects' copyright licenses from Creative Commons 3.0 to Creative Commons 4.0, which is a pretty major undertaking itself. I wonder if that would not be the time to bring this up. Face-wink.svg Kind regards, Raystorm (talk) 13:45, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Sister projects ignored in reports to the WMF board[edit]

mw:Wikimedia Audiences metrics in the July 2018 meeting

I'm astonished that the statistics presented to the board are so unashamedly discriminatory against Wikimedia projects other than Wikipedia, Commons and Wikidata. It doesn't take any effort to include all projects in content statistics. --Nemo 08:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

The next slide in the report User:Nemo_bis shows total traffic for all sites together. Agree more details on the other projects would be nice. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)