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Surveys to Survey Support Desk[edit]

(Pinging @Nemo bis and EGalvez (WMF):, who commented regarding the title on the talk page.) The title used in the content of the page is "Survey Support Desk" and I don't think the length will be an issue. The page "Surveys" should doing something else really. ("Survey help" could work if length is really expected to be an issue, but the page's own label should reflect the title, imo.) --Yair rand (talk) 01:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

@EGalvez (WMF): Decision?  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Apparently EGalvez no longer works for the WMF. The page says that surveys are now handled by the "Learning & Evaluation" team. Pinging @JAnstee (WMF):, who heads the team. --Yair rand (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
I agree it should be under Survey Support Desk, or perhaps Survey Support. JAnstee (WMF) (talk) 01:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. (Any Meta admin available to move the page? The target has a page history...) --Yair rand (talk) 04:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Moving pages for WMF departments and teams[edit]

Specifically, I propose the following moves:

If I understand correctly, the WMF is divided into "departments", which are then further subdivided into "teams" and sometimes "subteams". There are a few reasons why these pages should be moved:

  • Consistency.
  • Clarity about whether something is a team or department.
  • Avoiding ambiguity with groups from other Wikimedia organizations. For example, WMDE also has a Communications department, if I'm not mistaken.
  • Allowing general pages to be created on some of the vacated spaces. We should have general pages on Wikimedia's Fundraising, Legal issues, and Communications, separate from pages detailing the WMF's teams and departments.

Note also earlier archived proposal to move Fundraising. Pinging @GVarnum-WMF, Seddon (WMF), and Billinghurst: who participated in the earlier proposal discussion. --Yair rand (talk) 19:22, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Yair rand: Apologies our proposal on some ways to address some of this has been delayed, I do hope to engage in some discussions in the near future. Some of them relate to helping make it clearer when it's a Foundation maintained page and easier to find things - perhaps utilizing a Foundation specific namespace to take advantage of those built-in features (which addresses easier searching and identification of Foundation maintained materials). However, I think we can start with these changes and continue the conversation. Thanks! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 04:04, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
(I am uncomfortable with the idea of a group of pages designated as "Foundation-maintained". It's a wiki, pages aren't owned.)
Apparently translated pages can't be moved except by those with Translation admin rights. I'm not sure whether or not that's a bug? --Yair rand (talk) 03:34, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
@Yair rand: I agree that pages are not owned. However, I do believe it is worth noting which pages the Foundation is actively help maintain. Making this clearer is a request I have heard made of the Foundation since my time on AffCom. Today, we sometimes receive requests or complaints related to pages on Meta-Wiki which are about the Foundation, but the Foundation itself has never worked on or in some cases even heard about. Helping maintain every page someone happens to create about the Foundation is simply not possible. The result is people feeling misinformed, misled, or that we are neglecting our duties - which is certainly not our intention. I apologize if my phrasing gave you the wrong impression, but I also appreciate that people have a reasonable expectation of the Foundation maintaining content about ourselves and generally updated by staff or contractors (such as these department pages). Not exclusively maintaining - but at least enough to expect the information to be kept up to date. As we strive towards doing that better, we also want to set clearer expectations on which pages we are able to actively help maintain, and which we hope others will continue to maintain. I hope that helps clarify my statement and offer some context. I cannot speak to the translate admin setup and if that is a bug or a feature, but suspect you can check with folks on its talkpage. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 11:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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