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Starting[edit]

Hi! I'm from Spain, I can speak Catalan, Spanish and English, but I don't know which is the procedure that I need to follow to translate an article. Can I take any article that I like and translate it? Or I need to tell someone about it? I'm so confused! For example: one of the traduction of the week is The Yellow Wallpaper. I think that nobody traduced it to Catalan. Can I take the article and traduced? Or I need to say it to the META community? Thank you very much, and I'm sorry if I do something incorrect!

Dúvidas[edit]

EuAlexandre Ice queria pedir aulas sobre como criar e editar um documento na wikipédia para eu poder partilhar algum conhecimento.

Hi[edit]

Hello 174.65.135.67!

Editing translation of the week[edit]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone who knows Dutch to a high level would be willing to edit my translation. I would love to get some feedback in order to keep learning the finer points of this language. Thanks!

Disabling Messaging Fallbacks for Language Analysis[edit]

Hello,

The Search Platform team (formerly part of Discovery) is planning to fix a long-standing search bug on many wiki projects by disabling the code in CirrusSearch that re-uses the “fallback” languages (which are specified for user interface or system messages) for the language analysis modules (which are used to index words in search). Deployment is planned to start the week of October 9, 2017.

Messaging fallbacks specify what language to show a message in when there is no message available in the language of a given wiki. A language analysis module is language-specific software that processes text to improve searching—so that, for example, searching for a given word will find related forms of that word, like "hope, hopes, hoping, hoped" or "resume, resumé, résumé" on English-language wikis.

Fallback languages for system messages make sense for historical and cultural reasons—a reader of the Chechen Wikipedia is more likely to understand a user interface or system message in Russian than in French, Greek, Hindi, Italian, or Japanese—but the fallbacks don't necessarily make any linguistic sense. Chechen and Russian, for example, are from unrelated language families; while the languages have undoubtedly influenced one another, their grammars are completed different.

We will deploy the software change that disables using messaging fallbacks for language analysis fallbacks in about two weeks (targeting the week of October 9, 2017), with any cross-language analysis exceptions explicitly configured in a new manner. Changes will not immediately happen to all affected wikis because each wiki in each language will need to be re-indexed, which is a separate process that takes time. There may also be other delays caused by Elasticsearch upgrades or other changes that need immediate attention.

You can also track progress of the tasks on Phabricator or read more, see examples, and get the full list of languages affected on MediaWiki.org.

Yours, CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 17:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

These changes were completed the week of October 9th and deployed the following week. The re-indexing of the affected wikis was completed a few hours ago and should be live everywhere now. The list of affected languages is on the Phab ticket T177871 and a list by wiki is on that page in a comment. For more details, see the write up on MediaWiki. TJones (WMF) (talk) 14:44, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

I want to be a translator.[edit]

Hello! My name is Abílio and I am from Angola. I can speak English,Portuguese and a local language(Umbundu). I would like to be a translator here but I do not know how to start. What can I do ? Do I need make an inscription or just editing any article? I hope recieving an answer or explanation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tchicucuma (talk) .

Tchicucuma, If what you want to translate is Wikipedia articles then I suggest you start from Wikipedia. Go to Portuguese Wikipedia, find what article it lacks that exists in English and start translating it into Portuguese Wikipedia. It would be useful to read the rules at the same time, I suggest to start from pt:Wikipédia:Cinco pilares and pt:Wikipédia:Livro de estilo but you need to cover everything in pt:Predefinição:Políticas e recomendações da Wikipédia. After getting some experience you can also start creating Wikipedia in Umbundu here. The appropriate instructions are right there on spot. If it is not encyclopaedic articles what you are interested in, but let's say quotes or writing a dictionary, then I recommend to check out Wikipedia's sister projects listed on the Main Page. And if it is this wiki, Meta-Wiki what you want to translate, though I would not recommend it is as a starting place, then you can read mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Translation example and start translating here. Again I suggest to start from Portuguese where other editors can correct you and thus you can get some experience and then you can switch to Umbundu. You can also translate Mediawiki interface to Umbundu on https://translatewiki.net . Hope this helps, if not you then some random reader of this page. --Base (talk) 15:59, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Need help on doing the Xiao'erjing Wikipedia![edit]

Hello again, I am Muso Kortjass, I was wondering some languages of China have their own Wikipedia at the expense of the Sichuan Yi Wikipedia, Why don't I make Wikipedia in the Xiao'erjing language? Thank you!

Cannot find translation of some Dutch words in English[edit]

Wikidata tries to define 1 code-number for 1 object. But i cannot find a 'proper' English translation (in 1 word) for some Dutch words, and i had a 'discussion' about that on wikidata

  • for example ;

sloot is in English ditch , but a greppel is a smaller ditch that is used to drain excess water to a sloot. Also, there are no English translations (in 1 word) for wijk = wikidata-item. and there is also no English translation of wetering

Translatability of the WMF website[edit]

Folks here may be interested in Talk:Wikimedia Foundation website/2017 update#Multilingualism, namely this open question: «We are an international organization and we need an international website. Has multilingualism been considered and is it currently in the list of requirements? Nikerabbit (talk) 06:58, 15 September 2017 (UTC)». --Nemo 13:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)