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The Wikimedia Conference is all about participation. To make the conference a success it will be essential for the invited affiliates to deliberately select their delegates. Participants should come to Berlin to learn and to share, but also to bring the information and learnings back home. We are seeking delegates who will be actively engaged before, during and after the conference and can represent their affiliates. Ideal delegates are those who are

  • involved in the decision making processes of the organization,
  • striving to help shape the future of the movement,
  • or partnerships specialists,
  • or program leaders.

To increase diversity and have more diverse points of view present at the Wikimedia Conference, we advise affiliates to send at least one non-male participant per organization/group.

Participants should be eager to shape movement conversations; people with passion for partnerships with institutions, funders and like-minded organizations as well as people striving to improve their affiliates’ impact. Please don’t overthink it, consider this food for thought while making your choices.

Wikimedia Conference is for individuals involved in Punjabi Wikimedians as an organization. This involves organizing programs, partnering with institutions and other decisions of the organization. (Activity on Punjabi Wikimedia projects is not relevant for this conference. If you believe you have been working extensively on Wikimedia projects, then you should consider applying for Wikimania 2017.)

Individuals who feel they are appropriate for this should nominate themselves. The nomination should consist of proving the fact that how you are involved in one or more aspects of the organization. Preference will be given to female candidates. We are going to select an ideal delegate before 31st December.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 18:46, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We are going to select two delegates now:

  • One for Strategy track
  • One for Capacity Development and Partnerships track


Dr. Manavpreet Kaur[edit]

I am a self-starter, a teacher, and a researcher. Teaching enables me embrace new ideas and create innovative methods for implementing them while research makes me learn, unlearn and relearn. I believe in continually assessing my effectiveness and I keep adjusting my instructions to infuse innovative and creative strategies, thus ensuring that all my students succeed. I have been doing the same in my association with Wikipedia. I’ve been actively involved in planning and organizing various wiki events. During Wiki Workshop at Chandigarh my presentation of 100 wikidays was appreciated by one and all and it was rated the most popular session in the feedback. As they say, children and youth are the future of a nation, we applied the same thought while planning our wiki events and that’s why the majority of our members are students. It's easier to mold a child’s mind and as they are more enthusiastic and excited about learning new things, we had Wiki 15th Birthday celebrations at a school. The experience validated our approach and we learned that for younger individuals, it's best to work on Wikisource. During the event, my mother evinced her interest in the movement and she joined Punjabi wiki and has successfully completed 100 wikidays challenge. I have been an active member of the organizing committee for WikiConference India, 2016 where I was involved majorly in decision making, Finance management and overall management of the event. I also communicated with Punjab Digital Library to share the literature on Wiki Source and during WCI they signed the MoU with Punjabi Wikimedians. I also got one author to share her 4 books with Punjabi Wikmedians for Wikisource. 15 students from my workplace volunteered to assist me with the preparations and after the event, 6 of them joined Hindi Wikipedia and have been actively involved since then where 3 of them have even completed the 100Wikidays challenge successfully. As an outcome of WCI, a wiki club has been set up at the host institute (CGC) and we are going to organize the first event of that group in the last week of December. As sharing enhances the knowledge, I would like to participate in the conference to share my experience and to learn from others'experiences. I hope this justifies my self-nomination. Thank you for your time!--Dr. Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 20:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination Analysis[edit]

Work done:

  • 1 Workshop Organized at Sangrur
  • Main organizer in WikiConference India 2016 (Finance management)
  • Volunteers for WikiConference India 2016
  • Recruiting #100wikidays victims
  • Recruiting editors for Hindi Wikipedia

On-going work:

  • Getting content for Wikisource (Uploading is pending)

Work to do:

  • Wikiclub formed at CGC and events to be organized.


  1. Dr. Manav has done a great work in Punjabi Wikisource workshop (sangrur) and then WikiConference India. Undoubtedly, She is good candidate for this opportunity.--Gaurav Jhammat (talk) 10:52, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  2. ਤੁਸੀਂ ਵੀ ਵਧੀਆ ਉਮੀਦਵਾਰ ਹੋ, ਕਾਫੀ ਤਜਰਬਾ ਵੀ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਸਿਰਫ 2 ਜਣੇ ਹੀ ਜਾਣੇ ਨੇ, ਇਸ ਲਈ ਮੈਂ ਮੰਨਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਹੇਠਲੇ ਉਮੀਦਵਾਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਮੌਕਾ ਦੇਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਜੋ ਉਹ ਵੀ ਇਸ ਕੰਮ 'ਚ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਵਾਂਗ ਬਿਹਤਰ ਬਣ ਸਕਣ। -Satnam S Virdi (talk) 12:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Dr. Manavpreet kaur ਜੀ ਨੇ Events ਵਿੱਚ ਅਹਿਮ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ ਨਿਭਾਈ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਮੇਰਾ ਖਿਆਲ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਵਿਕੀ ਭਾਈਚਾਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਵਧਾਉਣ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੋਰ ਵੀ ਵਧੀਆ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ ਨਿਭਾ ਸਕਦੇ ਹਨ। ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਵੀ ਕਹਿਣੀ ਚਾਹਾਂਗਾ ਕਿ ਉਨ੍ਹਾ ਦੀ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ Online ਤੌਰ 'ਤੇ ਵਧੀਆ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ, ਸੋ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਜਰੂਰੀ ਹੈ। ਸੰਖੇਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਹਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਚਾਹਾਂਗਾ ਕਿ ਮਾਨਵ ਕੌਰ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਵਾਰ ਮੌਕਾ ਮਿਲਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ। Sony dandiwal (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  4. ਡਾ. ਮਾਨਵਪ੍ਰੀਤ ਕੌਰ ਨੇ ਸੰਗਰੂਰ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਕੀਕਾਨਫ਼ਰੰਸ ਇੰਡੀਆ ਵਰਗੇ ਸਮਾਗਮਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਵੱਡਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਇਆ। ਡਾ. ਮਾਨਵ ਵਿਕੀਮੀਡਿਆ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ 2017 ਲਈ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਵਧੀਆ ਅਤੇ ਹੱਕਦਾਰ ਕੈਂਡੀਡੇਟ ਹਨ, ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਉਮੀਦ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਈਚਾਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦੇ ਅਨੁਭਵਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਬਹੁਤ ਕੁਝ ਸਿਖਣ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਲੇਗਾ। Nitesh Gill (talk) 11:22, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Dr. Manav has been a pioneer and a role model for students, working on Wikiprojects including Punjabi Wikisource workshop. She played a prime role in the organizing and culmination of WikiConference India. She is a very strong candidate to represent Punjabi Wikimedians user group at Wikimedia Conference 2017.--Wikilover90 (talk) 15:03, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Dr. Manav has contributed her best in all activities, so she is a good candidate for this conference. However i am agree with Sony dandiwal that she has not done much in online contribution yet she is a good representative.--Param munde (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Harvinder Chandigarh[edit]

ਮੈਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਦਾ ਇੱਕ ਲੇਖਕ ਅਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਸਰਕਾਰ ਦਾ ਸੀਨੀਅਰ ਅਧਿਕਾਰੀ ਹਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਨਾਲ ਮਾਰਚ 2015 ਵਿੱਚ ਜੁੜਿਆ ਹਾਂ।ਇਸ ਅਰਸੇ ਦੌਰਾਨ ਮੈਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਦੇ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਲਈ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤ ਇੱਕ ਕਰਕੇ ਕੰਮ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ।ਇਸ ਸੰਬੰਧੀ ਮੈਂ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਦੇ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਸਬੰਧੀ ਆਫ਼ ਲਾਈਨ , ਆਨ ਲਾਈਨ ਅਤੇ ਸੰਗਠਨਾਤਮਕ ਗਤਿਵਿਧਿਆਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਨਿਰਣਾਇਕ ਪਧਰ ਦਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਹੈ।ਬਤੌਰ ਲੇਖਕ ਮੈਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਅਸਰ ਰਸੂਖ ਨੂੰ ਵਰਤਕੇ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡੀਆ ਬਾਰੇ ਜਾਗ੍ਰਿਤੀ ਵਧਾਉਣ ਲਈ ਲੇਖਕਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਇੱਕ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪ ਮੁਹਾਲੀ ਸ਼ਹਿਰ ਦੇ ਨਾਮਵਰ ਸਾਹਿਤਕ ਸੰਗਠਨ "ਸਾਰੰਗ ਲੋਕ" ਵਿਖੇ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਿਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਹਨਾ ਨੂੰ "ਪਾਵਰ ਪੋਆਇੰਟ ਪ੍ਰੇਜੇਨਟੇਸ਼ਨ" ਦੇ ਕੇ ਵਿਸਥਾਰ ਨਾਲ ਦਸਿਆ ਗਿਆ। ਹਵਾਲੇ ਲਈ ਇਹ ਲਿੰਕ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ [1]।ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਵੀ ਮੈਂ ਲੇਖਕਾਂ ਦੇ ਜਿਸ ਵੀ ਸਮਾਗਮ ਵਿੱਚ ਸ਼ਾਮਲ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਲੇਖਕਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਪਾਠਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਨਾਲ ਜੋੜਨ ਲਈ ਪ੍ਰੇਰਤ ਕਰਦਾਂ ਹਾਂ।ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਦੇ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਲਈ ਆਫ਼ ਲਾਈਨ ਗਤੀਵਿਧੀਆਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਮੈਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਮਵਰ ਅਖਬਾਰਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਲੇਖ ਲਿਖੇ ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਬਾਰੇ ਬੇਹੱਦ ਜਾਗ੍ਰਿਤੀ ਵਧੀ ਅਤੇ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇਹਨਾ ਲੇਖਾਂ ਦੇ ਹੁੰਗਾਰੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਈਆਂ ਸੈਂਕੜੇ ਫੋਨ ਕਾਲਾਂ ਇਸਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣ ਹਨ।ਇਸਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਜਿਆਦਾਤਰ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਪਤਾ ਕਿ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਮੌਜੂਦ ਹੈ।ਮੇਰੇ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਬਾਰੇ ਲੇਖ ਮਿਸਾਲ ਵਜੋਂ ਇਸ ਲਿੰਕ ਤੇ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ  :[2] ਗੁਰਮੁਖੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਨਾਲ ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ਾਹਮੁਖੀ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਤੇ ਵੀ ਪੂਰੀ ਸਰਗਰਮੀ ਨਾਲ ਆਪਣਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਨੂੰ ਦੋਹਵਾਂ ਲਿੱਪੀਆਂ ਵਿਚਲਾ ਪਾੜਾ ਘਟਾਉਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਆਨ ਲਾਈਨ ਆਧੁਨਿਕ IT ਪਲੇਟਫਾਰਮ ਵਜੋਂ ਉਭਾਰਨ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ।ਇਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਮੈਂ ਆਨ ਲਾਈਨ ਕੰਮ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਅਖਬਾਰਾਂ ਲੇਖ ਲਿਖ ਕੇ ਵੀ ਅਜਿਹਾ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ।ਹਵਾਲੇ ਵਜੋਂ ਇਹ ਲੇਖ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ:[3]।ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ੋਸ਼ਲ ਮੀਡੀਆ ਤੇ ਗਰੁਪ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਅਤੇ ਉਹਨਾ ਤੇ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਦੀ ਸਮਗਰੀ ਪੇਸ਼ ਕਰਕੇ ਵੀ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਉਪਰਾਲੇ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ। ਇਸਤੋ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਮੈ ਰਾਜ ਸਰਕਾਰ ਵਿਚ ਵੀ ਵਖ ਵਖ ਪਧਰ ਤੇ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਵਰਤੋਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਤਸਾਹਤ ਕਰਨ ਦੇ ਉਪਰਾਲੇ ਕੀਤੇ ਹਨ।ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਨੂੰ ਚੰਗੇ ਪ੍ਰਸ਼ਾਸ਼ਨ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਅਤੇ GLAM ਆਦਿ ਪ੍ਰੋਜੇਕਟਾਂ ਲਈ ਇਸ ਆਨ ਲਾਈਨ ਸਾਈਟ ਨੂੰ ਵਰਤਣ ਦੀ ਯੋਜਨਾ ਵੀ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਅਧੀਨ ਹੈ। ਮੈਂ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਦੀ Cultural Heritage ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਵਿਚ ਗਿਣਾਤਾਮਕ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਣਾਤਮਕ ਪਖੋਂ ਵੱਡਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ Wiki Love Monuments 2016 ਵਿੱਚ ਮੈਂ ਵੱਡੀ ਗਿਣਤੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਅਤੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਅਪਲੋਡ ਕੀਤੀਆਂ ਕੁਝ ਤਸਵੀਰਾਂ Quality Images ਵਜੋਂ ਵੀ ਚੁਣੀਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਭਾਈਚਾਰੇ ਦਾ ਵੀ ਵਕਾਰ ਵਧਿਆ।ਆਉਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਵਿਚ ਵਿਰਾਸਤੀ ਥਾਂਵਾਂ ਬਾਰੇ ਹੋਰ ਸੰਗਠਤ ਰੂਪ ਦੀ ਯੋਜਨਾ ਲਾਗੂ ਕਰਨ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕੀਤੇ ਜਾਣ ਦੀ ਸੰਭਾਵਨਾ ਹੈ।ਇਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਕੁਝ ਵੇਰਵਾ ਇਸ ਪੋਸਟ ਅਤੇ comments ਵਿਚ ਵੇਖਿਆ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ[4] ਮੈਂ ਹੁਣ ਤੱਕ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਦੀ ਲਗਪਗ ਹਰ ਗਤੀਵਿਧੀ ਨਾਲ ਜੁੜ ਕੇ ਇਸ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਲਈ ਨਿਰਸਵਾਰਥ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਦੇਣ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰਦਾਂ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ।ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਈਚਾਰੇ ਵਲੋਂ ਚੰਡੀਗੜ੍ਹ ਅਤੇ ਮੁਹਾਲੀ ਵਿਖੇ ਆਯੋਜਤ ਕੀਤੀਆਂ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਮੇਰੇ ਵਲੋਂ ਪੂਰਾ ਸਹਿਯੋਗ ਦੇ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ ਅਤੇ ਆਉਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਸ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਦੇ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਲਈ ਅਜਿਹੀ ਹੀ ਵਚਨਬਧਤਾ ਨੂੰ ਬਰਕਰਾਰ ਰਖਿਆ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ।ਮੈਂ ਇਸ ਸਮੇਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਤੇ ਬਤੌਰ Admin ਵੀ ਕੰਮ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ। ਉਪਰੋਕਤ ਤਥਾਂ ਦੇ ਸਨਮੁਖ ਮੈਂ ਇਸ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫ਼ਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਨਾਮੀਨੇਸ਼ਨ ਦੇ ਯੋਗ ਸਮਝਦਾ ਹਾਂ। ਮੈਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੀਆਂ ਸ਼ਾਹਮੁਖੀ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰੁਮੁਖੀ ਲਿਪੀਆਂ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਨਾਲ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਦੀਆਂ ਹਿੰਦੀ ਅਤੇ ਅੰਗ੍ਰੇਜ਼ੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾਵਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਵੀ ਜੁੜਕੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਕਾਫੀ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹਾਂ।ਜੇਕਰ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫ਼ਰੰਸ ਵਿਚ ਜਾਣ ਦਾ ਮੌਕਾ ਮਿਲਦਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਇਥੇ ਮਿਲੇ exposure ਅਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤ ਕੀਤੀ skill ਦਾ ਫਾਇਦਾ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਨਾਲ ਇਹਨਾ ਭਾਸ਼ਾਵਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਮਿਲੇਗਾ। --Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 03:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination Analysis[edit]

Work done:

  • News articles about Punjab Wikipedia.
  • Presentation about Wikipedia at literary organisation "Sarang Lok, Mohali" and subsequently introduced the Wikipedia movement among writers in large number of other literary programmes.
  • Proposed and materialized Workshop in Chandigarh
  • Role in WikiConference India 2016
  • Initiated efforts to introduce Wikipedia in Government sector .Meetings held with various senior level functionaries.
  • Worked with Punjabi Wikimedians Infrastructure
  • Contributed actively in both online and offline activites for promotion of the Wiki movement.

Work to do:

  • Promotion of Wikipedia movements thorough off line activities especially in the form of Writing articles in leading newspapers and social media
  • Organizing Wikipedia workshops for writers and media persons
  • Partnership with Cultural and Heritage Groups and Government for preparing an Action Plan for implementation of GLAM project
  • Formal workshops for government functionaries for promoting Wikipedia in Government sector as tool of good governance and developmental activities.
  • Preparing and implementing Action Plan for integration of East and West Punjab Wikipedia


  1. Harwinder has done a number of things for punjabi Wikipedia and some other sister projects too. His contribution to Commons about Punjab Heritage and Art is very good but this Conference is about User Group. I think Harwinder os best candidate for Wikimania and such other events but currently i didn't dind him suitable for this.--Gaurav Jhammat (talk) 10:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Gaurav Jhammat: ਜੀ, ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਇਹ ਸੂਚੀ ਦੇਖੋ! ਇਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਨਾਂ ਵੀ ਦਰਜ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਤੁਹਾਡੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਲਈ ਦੱਸ ਦਿਆਂ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਯੂਜ਼ਰ ਗਰੁੱਪ ਦੀ ਹੀ ਸੂਚੀ ਹੈ।
    1. ਮੈਨੂੰ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਨਾਮਜ਼ਦਗੀ ਨਾਲ ਕੋਈ ਇਤਰਾਜ਼ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਰ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਇੱਕ ਮਹਿਲਾ ਮੈਂਬਰ ਦੀ ਚੋਣ ਲਾਜ਼ਮੀ ਹੈ. ਇਸਲਈ ਮੈਂ ਮਾਨਵ ਦੀ ਨਾਮਜ਼ਦਗੀ ਦਾ ਸਮਰਥਨ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ. ਜੇਕਰ ਤੀਜੀ ਨਾਮਜ਼ਦਗੀ ਵੀ ਸਵੀਕਾਰ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਸਮਰਥਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹਾਂ.--Gaurav Jhammat (talk) 12:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਯੋਗ ਉਮੀਦਵਾਰ ਨੇ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਪੱਧਰ 'ਤੇ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪ ਵੀ ਲਗਾਈ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਤੱਕ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਬਾਰੇ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਪਹੁੰਚਾਉਣ ਲਈ ਲੇਖ ਵੀ ਲਿਖੇ ਹਨ। ਨਾਮਜ਼ਦ ਮੈਂਬਰਾਂ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਆਨਲਾਈਨ ਵੀ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਜ਼ਿਆਦਾ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਲਈ ਮੈਂ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫ਼ਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਠੀਕ ਸਮਝਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਤੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਾ ਸਮਰਥਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹਾਂ। --Satnam S Virdi (talk) 11:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  2. ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕੀਪੀਡੀਆ ਲਈ ਕਾਫ਼ੀ ਸ਼ਲਾਘਾਯੋਗ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਓਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਮੀਟਿੰਗਾਂ ਜਾਂ ਈਵੈਂਟਾ ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਵਧ ਚਡ਼੍ਹ ਕੇ ਹਿੱਸਾ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਖ਼ਾਸ ਕਰਕੇ Wikimedia Commons ਤੇ ਓਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਕਾਫ਼ੀ ਕੰਮ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ। ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਖ਼ਾਸੀਅਤ ਇਹ ਰਹੀ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਕਾਫ਼ੀ ਸਰਗਰਮ (ਬਾਕੀ Nominated Members ਨਾਲੋਂ) ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਸੋ ਮੈਂ ਚਾਹਾਂਗਾ ਕਿ ਇਸ ਮੈਂਬਰ ਦੀ ਯੋਗਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਰੂਰ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਵੇ ਅਤੇ ਹੋ ਸਕੇ ਤਾਂ Wikimania ਲਈ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ ਮੌਕਾ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਜਾਵੇ। Sony dandiwal (talk) 13:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Harvinder ji has done lot of contribution to strengthen the Wikipedia movement both in offline and online activities.He has written articles in Ajit papers which has readers in lacs and in this way he has created awareness among large number of readers about Punjabi Wikipedia.Moreover he is a writer and has strengthen the movement among writers and readers through addressing them on various literary forums.He is a senior level government officer and he is trying to introduce Wikipedia in Govt also.He is one of the most active editor and contribute in Western Punjabi,Hindi and English Wikipedia also in addition to Gurmukhi.He has lot of possibilities to further strengthen the movement in future if he is given chance in this conference.I support his nomination for this conference.--Jaswant.Jass904 (talk) 07:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Harvinder is not only contributing in wiki movement specially Punjabi wiki, as a journalist or writer but as a balanced event manager acceptable to all. His special efforts to unite Punjabi wiki written in two scripts namely Gurmukhi and Shamukhi will certainly bring fruit if given exposure in such Wikipedia conferences. I further endorse his contributions about Punjabi Heritage in terms of so many original files at commons, that shows his great interest in knowing and recording different type of cultures. I recommend and support that Harvinder be given a chance to attend Wikimedia Conference 2017 representing Punjabi Wikimedians--Guglani (talk) 08:34, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Harvinder Ji has done a commendable job when it comes to organising workshops, establishing liaison with sister wiki projects and creating awareness about the project. He therefore deserves to participate in the conference to share and learn and contribute to the growth of Punjabi Wiki community. --Babanwalia (talk) 10:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  6. ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਬਕਾਇਦਾ ਵਿਕਿਪੀਡਿਆ ਅਤੇ ਵਿਕੀ ਪ੍ਰੋਜੈਕਟਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣੀ ਅਹਿਮ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ ਅਦਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਵਿਕੀ ਪ੍ਰੋਜੈਕਟਸ ਲਈ ਬਹੁਤ ਮਹਤਵਪੂਰਣ ਸਿੱਧ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ। ਸੋ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਲੱਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਵਿਕੀਮੀਡੀਆ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਦੀ ਬਜਾਏ ਵਿਕੀਮਿਨੀਆ ਲਈ ਵਧੀਆ ਕੈਂਡੀਡੇਟ ਹਨ। Nitesh Gill (talk) 11:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Harvinder ji are working hard on wikipedia since long time and he has contributed a lot in all fields of possible contribution, so i recommend his name. --Param munde (talk) 11:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Mr. Harvinder is a dedicated Wikimedian and has worked on numerous Wiki projects. Yet his contribution in the outreach programs isn't enough for him to be a representative for our user group comparative to other Wikimedians. --Wikilover90 (talk) 15:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Mr. Harvinder has contributed to both Punjabi Wikipedias in a considerable way. He helped Western Punjabi Wikipedia and contributed to all fields of our wikipedia. He is currently working to integrate both Punjabi Wikipedias. I recommend and support Mr. Harvinder to be given a chance to attend Wikimedia Conference 2017 representing our Wikipedias. --Danish47 (talk) 19:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I nominate myself for Wikimedia conference 2017. I am doing PhD (Punjabi) from Punjabi University, Patiala. I have been working on different wiki projects such as Punjabi Wiktionary, Punjabi Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Wikibooks and I am also an admin on Punjabi Wiktionary.[5] After this brief introduction, I want to bring attention to the points due to which I am nominating myself. This conference is being held to strengthen the organizations working for the wikimedia movement. I have already organized a workshop in Kotkapura (Punjab) with assistance of an NGO called People’s forum, Bargari.[6],[7] Since last 2 years we have been organizing an education program in Punjabi department of Punjabi University, Patiala. In this students of M.A. upload their assignment work on Punjabi Wikipedia. I have written about Wikipedia and other projects in different news papers.[8],[9] I have completed 100Wikiday on punjabi Wiktionary.[10] I have worked as co-coordinator of Punjab edit-a-thon.[11] I have played vital role in organizing WikiConference India 2016.[12],[13] I have been working on project with Dr. Rajwinder Singh of Punjabi University and Jashan Grewal,in which we have recorded pronunciation of 1500 Punjabi words. Apart from this I am working with Dr. Rajwinder for the continuous development of Punjabi Wiktionary like word typing, audio recording and software development. I have been educating Punjabi authors about creative commons licenses and have convinced some of them to release their books for Punjabi Wikisource.i will be applying for a grant to scan these books. I am also on talks with People’s Forum, Bargari to help in organizing more events and to release some of their books for punjabi Wikisource. I have also presented a paper on the history of Wikipedia in an international seminar./ In future I -

  • Intend to record Punjabi folklore with the help of camera provided by the foundation.[14] ,[15]
  • Plan to start new projects in collaboration with Punjabi university and keep on working for the success of ones already started.
  • Include more books by different authors in the open source.
  • Upload interviews with prominent Punjabi writers with the help of camera provided by the foundation.
  • more links related to my work - [16] ,[17] ,[18]

This way I have tirelessly worked for wiki both online and offline. so I nominate myself for the Capacity Building and Partnerships track at Wikimedia Conference. Stalinjeet (talk) 08:14, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination Analysis[edit]

Work done:

  • 1 Workshop Organized at Kotkapura (Collaboration with a local organization) - This helped to get enough coverage of the event
  • Role in WikiConference India 2016
  • News article about Wiktionary and other projects
  • Coordinator of Punjab Edit-a-thon 2016 which was started at TTT 2016
  • Role in the Education program at Punjabi University, Patiala
  • Worked with Punjabi Wikimedians Infrastructure

On-going work:

  • Getting content for Wikisource (Uploading is pending)
  • Punjabi Wiktionary project with Punjabi University, Patiala (1500 words recorded)

Work to do:

  • Interviews of Punjabi writers
  • More content for Wikisource
  • Documenting Punjabi Folklore (Sample videos available)
  • More projects in collaboration with Punjabi University, Patiala
  • Scanning books released by authors under CC licenses


  1. All i have read above sounds great. Stalinjeet is doing great things for wiki-movement and i think he is the suitable candidate for this conference. My best wishes are with him.--Gaurav Jhammat (talk) 10:33, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  2. ਤੁਸੀਂ ਵੀ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਬਿਹਤਰ ਉਮੀਦਵਾਰ ਹੋ। --Satnam S Virdi (talk) 12:52, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Stalinjeet ਜੀ ਦਾ ਕੰਮ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕੀਸ਼ਨਰੀ ਲਈ ਬਹੁਤ ਵਧੀਆ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਕੋਟਕਪੂਰਾ ਵਿਖੇ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਸਟਾਲਿਨਜੀਤ ਨੇ ਅਹਿਮ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ ਨਿਭਾਈ ਸੀ। ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਯੂਨੀਵਰਸਿਟੀ, ਪਟਿਆਲਾ ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਉਹ ਇਸ ਕੰਮ ਨੂੰ ਵਧੀਆ ਨਿਭਾ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਚਾਹਾਂਗਾ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਸਰਗਰਮ ਰਹਿ ਕੇ ਇਹ ਕੰਮ ਕਰਨ ਤਾਂ ਹੋਰ ਵੀ ਵਧੀਆ ਰਹੇਗਾ, ਭਾਵ ਕਿ Online ਤੌਰ ਤੇ ਓਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਸਰਗਰਮ ਹੋਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ। Sony dandiwal (talk) 14:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  4. ਸਟਾਲਿਨਜੀਤ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਕੋਟਕਪੂਰਾ ਵਰਕਸ਼ਾਪ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਨਾਲ ਵਿਕੀਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਇੰਡੀਆ ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਮਹੱਤਵਪੂਰਨ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਇਆ। ਸਟਾਲਿਨ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਕੀਸ਼ਨਰੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਬਹੁਤ ਵਧਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਹੋਰ ਵੀ ਵਿਕੀ ਪ੍ਰੋਜੈਕਟਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਆਪਣਾ ਹਿੱਸਾ ਪਾਇਆ ਹੈ। ਵਿਕੀਮੀਡੀਆ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਲਈ ਸਟਾਲਿਨ ਜੀ ਯੋਗ ਉਮੀਦਵਾਰ ਹਨ। Nitesh Gill (talk) 11:52, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Stalinjeet has worked hard in several Wiki projects including many outreach programs, one of them being organizing a workshop at Kotkapura. So, he is a favorable candidate according to the criteria set by the Wikimedia Conference 2017.--Wikilover90 (talk) 15:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Stalinjeet has Poor contribution as an editor, yet he has been a good contributor in many outdoor activities, so he is a good candidate for this conference also.--Param munde (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Case of Canvassing[edit]

  • Comment Comment Possible case of Canvassing. While this is no official election and only a discussion but still I feel this a case of Canvassing and particularly Stealth_canvassing (the use of email or other off-wiki communication to notify editors is discouraged and especially in a way to influence the outcome of the discussion). I see a pattern here where users who have inactive for one or two months have logged in the previous days only to give comments about a single candidate while we are officially selecting two candidates. We will publish a result later today.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 03:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment ਮੁਆਫ਼ ਕਰਨਾ @Satdeep Gill:, ਮਾਨਵ ਵੀ ਵਿਕੀ ਤੋਂ ਜ਼ਿਆਦਾਤਰ ਗਾਇਬ ਹੀ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਨੇ, ਇਸ ਲਈ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਕਾਨਫਰੰਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਕਿਵੇਂ ਪਤਾ ਲੱਗਿਆ? ਕਿਸੇ ਨੇ ਕੋਈ ਫ਼ੋਨ 'ਤੇ ਜਾਂ ਵਟਸਐਪ 'ਤੇ ਗੱਲ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੋਣੀ ਆ!

ਦੂਜੀ ਗੱਲ, ਮਾਨਵ ਤੇ ਸਟਾਲਿਨ ਲਈ ਵੀ ਕੁਝ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਨੇ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਵਿਕੀ ਤੋਂ ਕੁਝ ਮਹੀਨਿਆਂ ਤੋਂ ਗਾਇਬ ਸਨ! ਤਾਂ ਕੀ 'ਕੱਲਾ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਖਾਨੇ 'ਚ ਇਹ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਲਿਖਣਾ ਜਾਇਜ਼ ਹੈ? ਜੇਕਰ ਲਿਖਣੀ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਸਭ ਲਈ ਲਿਖੋ! ਅਜਿਹਾ ਦੋਗਲਾਪਣ ਕਿਉਂ ਦਿਖਾ ਰਹੇ ਹੋ।

ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਕਰਨ ਦੇ ਨਿਯਮ ਵੀ ਦੱਸ ਦਿਉ! ਤਾਂ ਜੋ ਦੋ-ਤਿੰਨ ਮਹੀਨਿਆਂ ਤੋਂ ਗਾਇਬ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ (ਮਾਨਵ ਸਮੇਤ) ਨੂੰ ਇਸ ਪੂਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਕਿਰਿਆ 'ਚੋਂ ਬਾਹਰ ਕੱਢਿਆ ਜਾਵੇ! ਜੇਕਰ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਕੋਈ ਨਿਯਮ ਮੌਜੂਦ ਨਹੀਂ ਤਾਂ ਅਜਿਹੀ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਕਰਨ ਲਈ ਕਾਰਨ ਦੱਸੋ! --Vol. 38(2), July 2016. (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Comment  :@Satnam S Virdi: ਜੀ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇੰਝ ਲਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ articles ਲਿਖਣ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੰਨ੍ਹਾ ਕੁ ਮਸ਼ਰੂਫ ਹੋ ਕਿ ਕਿਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਪਾਸੇ ਵੇਖ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਾ ਰਹੇ। ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਮੇਰੇ ਉੱਤੇ ਸਵਾਲ ਉਠਾਇਆ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਇੱਥੇ ਜਵਾਬ ਦੇਣਾ ਚਾਹਾਂਗੀ ਕਿ ਮੈਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਵੀ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ਬਹੁਤ ਵਾਰ ਕਹਿ ਚੁੱਕੀ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਕੰਮ ਕੁਝ ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਮੈਂ ਹਰ ਰੋਜ਼ ਵਿਕੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਲੇਖ ਲਿਖਣ ਲਈ ਸਮਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਢ ਸਕਦੀ ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰਾਂਗੀ ਕੀ ਮੈਂ ਇਸ ਕੰਮ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਿਆਦਾ ਤੋ ਜਿਆਦਾ ਭਾਗ ਲਵਾਂ।

ਦੂਜੀ ਗੱਲ, ਸਿਰਫ ਇਸ ਲਈ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਹੋ ਰਹੇ ਕੰਮ ਤੋਂ ਅਨਜਾਣ ਹੋ, ਇਸਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਇਹ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਿ ਕੰਮ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋ ਰਿਹਾ। ਮੈਂ WCI੨੦੧੬ ਦੇ ਦੋ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਤੋ ਅੱਜ ਦੀ ਤਾਰੀਕ ਤੱਕ ਉਸਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਜੁੜੇ ਕੰਮ ਕਰ ਰਹੀ ਹਾਂ। ਜਿੱਦਾਂ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਤਦੀਪ ਦੀ credibility ਤੇ ਸ਼ੱਕ ਜਤਾਇਆ ਹੈ, ਤਾਂ ਤੁਸੀਂ CIS ਦੇ ਕਿਸੇ ਵੀ ਮੁਲਾਜਿਮ ਜਾਂ ਬਾਕੀ committee members ਤੋਂ ਵੀ ਇਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਪੁੱਛ ਸਕਦੇ ਹੋ। Finance, PEG Report ਅਤੇ Audit ਅਸਾਨ ਕੰਮ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੁੰਦੇ। ਬਾਕੀ ਮੈਂ WCI ਵੇਲੇ ਬਣੇ wikiclub ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਵੇਖ ਰਹੀ ਹਾਂ। ਕੁਝ ਵੀ ਕਹਿਣ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ facts ਵੇਖ ਲੈਣੇ ਸਹੀ ਹੁੰਦੇ ਹਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਤਾਂ ਓਹ comment ਨਹੀਂ allegation ਬਣ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ। ਇੱਕ ਹੋਰ ਗੱਲ ਮੈਨੂ ਇਸ ਬਾਰੇ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਸੱਥ ਤੋਂ ਮਿਲੀ। In case you have any other doubts, please drop me a message and what you said here about me isn't the justification for the raised concern. Thank you. --Dr. Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 14:11, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Satnam S Virdi: ਹਾਂਜੀ, ਮੈਂ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਸ਼ੰਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਇਆ ਹੈ। ਗ਼ੈਰ-ਹਾਜ਼ਰ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਦੱਸਣਾ ਗ਼ਲਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਇਸ ਸੰਦਰਭ ਵਿੱਚ ਨੋਟ ਕਰਨਯੋਗ ਗੱਲ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਕੁਝ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਨੇ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਇੱਕ ਕੈਂਡੀਡੇਟ ਬਾਰੇ ਹੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਸਾਂਝੇ ਕੀਤੇ ਹਨ ਜਦੋਂ ਕੀ ਦੋ ਦੀ ਚੋਣ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾਣੀ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਕੋਈ ਮਤਦਾਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਮੈਂ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਇਸ ਗੱਲ ਵੱਲ ਧਿਆਨ ਦਵਾਉਣਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਵਿਕੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਇੱਕ ਪਾਲਿਸੀ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਹੋਣ ਨਾਲ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ ਅਤੇ ਬਹਿਸ ਦਾ ਮਾਹੌਲ ਸਿਰਜਣ ਦੀ ਜਗ੍ਹਾ ਉੱਤੇ ਇਹ ਚਰਚਾ ਇੱਕ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਮਤਦਾਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਤਬਦੀਲ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਨਜ਼ਰ ਆਈ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ। ਦੋਗਲੇਪਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਕੋਈ ਗੱਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਇੱਕ ਝਾਤੀ ਮਾਰੀ ਤੋਂ ਮਾਨਵ ਅਤੇ ਸਟਾਲਿਨ ਦੇ ਸੰਬੰਧ ਵਿੱਚ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਹਰ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ ਨੇ ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਜੀ ਬਾਰੇ ਵੀ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ। ਹੋ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕੈਂਡੀਡੇਟਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਨੇ ਟਿੱਪਣੀਆਂ ਦੇਣ ਲਈ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਹੋਵੇ। ਮੈਂ ਕੋਈ ਆਰੋਪ ਨਹੀਂ ਲਗਾ ਰਿਹਾ।--Satdeep Gill (talk) 14:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ਜੇਕਰ ਕੋਈ ਸ਼ੰਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਉਣੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਕੀ ਉਸ ਲਈ ਕਿਸੇ ਇੱਕ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ ਵਾਲੇ ਖਾਨੇ 'ਚ ਲਿਖਣਾ ਜਾਇਜ਼ ਹੈ? ਜੇਕਰ ਲਿਖਣਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਸਭ ਲਈ ਲਿਖੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਉੱਪਰ ਜਾਂ ਫ਼ਿਰ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਥੱਲੇ। ਕਿਸੇ ਇੱਕ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨੇ 'ਤੇ ਕਿਉਂ ਲਿਆਇਆ ਜਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। --Satnam S Virdi (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਇਹ ਕੇਸ ਬਾਕੀ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਖਰਾ ਹੈ। 3 ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਨੇ ਸਭ ਬਾਰੇ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਦੇਣ ਦੀ ਜਗ੍ਹਾ ਉੱਤੇ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਇੱਕ ਵਿਅਕਤੀ ਬਾਰੇ ਟਿੱਪਣੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਲਈ ਉਸ ਖਾਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਸ਼ੰਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਇਆ। ਬਾਕੀ ਇਹ ਕੋਈ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਵੱਡੀ ਗੱਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਇਹ ਕੋਈ ਮਤਦਾਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ।--Satdeep Gill (talk) 14:32, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Comment

  • Unauthentic and subjective Judgement should be avoided while taking such decisions.Concencus never needs canvassing.No one did any kind of canvassing.Community watch everyone's work and commitment to work which require no covassing.Moreover One should not undermine the wisdom of community members. Community members are wise enough and can not be influenced by others and opinion of the community must be regarded instead of doubting and ignoring it.--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 14:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have just pointed out that this discussion was not about consensus but about discussion which did not happen in some cases.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Final decision[edit]

The discussion was just for reference and not a polling. Most of the comments have failed to address the criteria mentioned by the Organizers and have stressed on online activities.

Two delegates are to be selected who have been involved with the organization “Punjabi Wikimedians”. Many people have stressed about the work on Wikipedia while the appropriate candidates are expected to have done some programs, be involved in partnerships and collaborations. We are going to choose the only non-male candidate User:Dr. Manavpreet Kaur who has played a vital role in India’s biggest event in the last 5 years. She has been doing finance management for more than 6 months now and her skills in event management made the conference successful. She gets a special preference being a non-male member as well, although her work as a program leader has makes her a perfect candidate without even getting the preference.

While this it is a tough decision to choose one out of the other two candidates, we have decided to choose User:Stalinjeet. He is collaborating with Punjabi University, Patiala. He was a coordinator in Punjab Editathon. He has also shown his talent to do partnerships with organizations while organizing Wikipedia Workshop in Kotkapura a year ago. He has also been convincing authors to release their books for Wikisource. This furthers the cause of Punjabi Wikimedians as an organization to become a catalyst in promoting Punjabi language online.

User:Harvinder Chandigarh has done exceptional work on and off wiki and that is the reason he was selected by the Wikimania Committee for Wikimania 2016. I am sure he will represent our group at Wikimania 2017 as well but we do feel that at this stage other two candidates are more involved in organizational activities although there is very less difference. We would encourage Harvinder Chandigarh to get a little more involved with the User Group and work on projects as a team.

On the other hand, we would like to request all the members who wish to contribute more as a member of Punjabi Wikimedians to contact us, so that we can brief you about the projects that we are working and helping you select a project that you can start as a team work.

Hence, two candidates selected are:

Strategy track: User:Dr. Manavpreet Kaur

Capacity Building and Partnerships track: User:Stalinjeet

Signatures by the Punjabi Wikimedians contact persons:

Satdeep Gill: --Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Parveer Grewal: --Parveer Grewal (talk) 15:47, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gaurav Jhammat: --Gaurav Jhammat (talk) 15:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


It would have been better if contact persons from punjabi wikimedians , while deciding , would have made more objective assessment , chosen characteristics from comments described against each candidate, and mapped these with the pre drawn parameters and shown these in their conclusion; like

  • involved in the decision making processes of the organization,
  • striving to help shape the future of the movement,
  • or partnerships specialists,
  • or program leaders.
  • and "preference to woman candidate" ,

to demonstrate their neutrality of selection decision; rather than expressing bias by raising doubts ,about possible convassing , only on a ground that some people have commented only about one candidate. Normal view for that would have been that , if not commented on others , then concerned commentator has nothing to add or subtract from characteristics described by others. If one candidate is collaborating with Patiala University , other one is collaborating with Punjab Goveronment , choice fo latter , would have given diversity in dimension because availing of punjabi wikimedia facilitation is already more concentrated on people from patiala region or patiala university.--Guglani (talk) 08:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Guglani: ji, We have tried to follow these paramters. As far as the collaborations are concerned, one user is already collaborating and has done partnership with another organization from Kotkapura while the other candidate has not demonstrated what kind of collaboration is going on or is possible. While the woman candidate has demonstrated her efforts by working for 6 months for organizing the WikiConference India which included finance management and organizational tasks.

We would like to mention that there is no fixed method to choose the candidates. We are going to devise a specific plan from now onwards which will help demonstrating neutrality of the User Group while selecting eligible candidates. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 08:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Satdeep Gill: ji, I agree with Guglani ji.You may be right that there is no fixed method to choose the candidates but any method to choose the candidates must not only be neutral and transparent but it should appear also to be neutral and transparent.Experience of the last two years reveals that you pre decide the candidate(s) and device method to suit their selection which demorlise the deserving and committed candidates and results in demaging the movement instead of strngthening it.I am raising following question time and again but you are unable to answer them satisfactorily:
  • who proposed the names of selection committee in subject? You or the community?
  • What criteria was followed for the selection? Was it objective or subjictive one ?
  • What norms were followed for selection of nominee.?
  • As Guglani ji,who is one of the pioneering editor of Punjabi Wikipedia, has also poited out if the selection of the candidates remained concentrated to a small group around you then would it not alienate and demotivate the potential candidates of other areas and ultimately adversely affect the interests of the movement.Candidate rejected last year due to baise selection procedure has demoralised him to such an extent that he is hardaly present now on Wikipedia.On the other hand nominee selected last year has not shown any significant and visible impact on the movement after attending the conference.
  • You mention in your comment that I have not demonstrated my past/future contribution in my case.I have clearly presented in my nomination that I wrote articles in leading vernacular newspapers having circulations in lacs and hundered of calls recieved from all over the globe proved that it has made an adequate impact and made those people aware about the Punjabi Wikipedia who have earlier not even heard about it.In addition to it I single handedly organised an awareness workshop with Writers/Readers.I proposed and materialised Chandigarh Wikipedia workshop as well as WikiConference India 2016. I presented my future collaboration plan also.
  • My on line contribution is evident in both East and West Punjabi Wikipedias as well as Hindi and English Wikipedia.

I feel if you are unable to give satisfactory answers to these observations ,especially related to selection committee, than present selection of candidates has no sanctity and needs re-examination.Otherwise community would treat it a one man dictate to suit his choice candidate and not a selection .--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 11:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Harvinder Chandigarh: I agree about the selection criteria not appearing neutral. First of all, you need to understand that Punjabi Wikimedians is an organization which has no authority on the content available at Punjabi Wikipedia neither are we responsible for it. The organization aims to form partnerships and collaborations with other institutions to further the cause of free knowledge in Punjabi. You can check some of the projects on this link. Last year, we chose the candidate according to the role in forming the organization while the other candidate, despite his online contribution, had no role in organizing events whether online or offline, neither did he play any role in finance management during the initial phases. No, method was devised last time but the selection was done during the physical meeting with voting

I would try to answer the questions raised by you but do consider that we are lacking in certain areas:

  • With our previous experience in which we realized that voting did not justify, the three representatives of the organization, decided to ask for nominations followed by discussion. We then evaluated the candidates.
  • The criteria followed was provided by the organizers in which leading programs and forming partnerships were important criteria.
  • Besides considering the activities related to the organization, we also considered that you have already attended Wikimania 2016 and we would like to give exposure to more individuals. This does not mean that their role in building the organization was lesser but this was another factor which was considered.
  • While you mention the fact of demoralizing an individual. The person had not displayed much online or offline activity for 6 months before the conference. While the other person has worked on making by-laws of the organization, played a major role in WikiConference India 2016 and also has one of the highest contributions for forming Punjabi Wikisource.
  • We did consider the newspaper articles written by you and commend you for that. The writer's workshop you mention was not exactly a workshop but a presentation according to us. While the other user has organized a workshop with evaluations which document the work done during the workshop as well. We also see the role of other users in organizing both the Workshop and WikiConference India 2016.

We have been discussing things with WMF staff as well and we will be in touch with the Affiliations Committee to help the organization in forming better decision making process. Right now, we feel that the selected candidates have been considered keeping all the criteria in mind. We would again like to stress on the point to kindly try and differentiate between the User Group and the wider community. Also, we don't guarantee foreign trips as rewards to senior Wikimedians. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 13:22, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Response to the Comments[edit]

@Harvinder Chandigarh: ji and : @Guglani: ji, I just read the detailed comments and concerns raised by you regarding the fair selection. In the recent conversation that we had in our whatsapp group, I requested everyone to give me some time to prepare a detail of criteria in order to justify the selections. But as I can see, you are eager for the answers I'll address them all one by one-*
  • Regarding first year's selections: In order to be a part of Wikimedia Conference, you should be a member of a registered user group. There are so many people who've been contributing on wiki for the last so many years but none of them thought of getting the group registered. As Parveer is the one who came up with the idea and who got us registered, he was the fair candidate for the conference that year.
  • Regarding losing one editor: I'm sorry to say but that user went offline for his personal reasons long back. Infact a few months before we had that meeting and nominations. So, you can't blame the nominations for losing an editor.
  • Regarding Stalin and Harvinder Ji's Contribution: I have been associated with WCI2016 since 2015 when satdeep attended his first Wikimania. . We applied for the Conference to see if we are competent enough to organize Wikimania. We have worked day and night for 6 months and the planning started long back and we've winded up everything on 31st Dec, 2016. I'm sorry to say but Harvinder Ji was a member of Sponsorship team only. I'd like to mention here that he assisted us for a week or so before the conference and the team was not able to get any sponsors. While Stalin was actively involved in volunteer coordination, he worked round the clock with Infofarmer for a week regarding Wikitionary, did the recordings and even helped in generating the database. He even got some books for wikisource from the authors from Kotkapura. He worked on the statistical analysis of Punjab edit-a-thon as well. All the students and faculty members are well versed with the Wiki Team who'd been involved in event management and you can contact them for any further clarifications. We expect you to raise issues on justified grounds, not on personal beliefs. Harvinder Ji's contributions must have been great, but the results are based on your contribution in a User group not as an individual. The final decisions are based on Outcome not effort. So, as far as this year selections are considered, they are all justified and fair. In case you want any further clarifications, you are requested to attend next meeting. Thank you. --Dr. Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 17:33, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fundamental question still unanswered[edit]

All the questions raised by me have not been answered satisfactorily.My fundamental question has not been responded at all and that question is:"Who proposed and appointed the jury to make judgement in this regard. User Group members or an individual?If jury has not been proposed/appointed by the User Group members i.e. Punjabi Wikimedians then it has no sanctity?Neither its judgement has any sanctity?WMF should reconsider it in view of its well known and established ethics of transparency and neutrality.--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 05:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It has been answered that the three representatives who formed the User Group made the decision considering all the points. The decision to have voting last year was also taken by the representatives. This is an organization in process. We would like help to form a well thought out decision making process. We are already on talks with WMF. Ideally any two of the three representatives go but the decision to send others was taken by the representatives as well. Lack of a proper decision making process does not make the decision invalid. I would suggest everyone to learn that Punjabi Wikipedia and the User Group does not mean the same thing. Wikimedia Conference and Wikimania are also two distinct conferences. Do not consider this a reward for online activity. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My final observation[edit]

  • We are an evolving User Group and have no laid down and objective procedure to select the suitable candidates for Wikimedia Conference 2017.Jury which has forwarded the names of the candidates has also not been created by the User Group's members following the proper procedure.Only one jury member responding to all the questions and observations prove that it is a one man creation.In this context It will be more appropriate if Foundation ( WMF) take decision at its own level keeping in view the overall contribution and future potential of the candidates to be selected for the conference.Views of all group members and endorsements may also be given due weightage while deciding the candidates.--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 08:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Harvinder Chandigarh: The foundation does not interfere in the processes of the user group. There was no jury as this was no competition. The 3 representatives made the decision asessing everything. The views did not clearly specify the potential of the candidates as a part of the organization and were more inclined towards their individual contributions. We do agree that the process needs more clarity which will be brought from the next time. While we are agreeing to our faults and to fix them in future, you are expected to cooperate with us. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 02:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Satdeep Gill: I assure everyone to cooperate and expect rational reciprocal too.--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 04:02, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Humble Submission[edit]

Sir, I'd like to request you to please change the title "Final Observation" as it is your observation only. One jury member is responding but he isn't the only one involved in the process. Please refrain from making any comments on someone's morality just because their approach is different from yours. Sir, we are two individuals who are answering all your questions, though I am not a jury member but I'm reviewing the policies. So, please stop scorning us and consider our opinions as well. We've been ignored by some other members as well and that makes us feel dejected and I'm sure WIKI doesn't appreciate that as well. Give the other person a fair chance to explain their perspective and then draw a conclusion. We had a meeting to address all these questions and the selection process was explained in the meeting. I'll be uploading the minutes soon. Thank you!!--Dr. Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 22:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Manavpreet Kaur: I have amended the title.I shall appreciate if everyone is involved in the affairs of the group including policies making.--Harvinder Chandigarh (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Harvinder Chandigarh: Sir, I am preparing the rough draft and will post the same for the community's inputs and amendments. Regards--Dr. Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 13:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need of laws[edit]

To take future decisions of community we need some laws which have been added recently.I would suggest all members to have a look upon those laws on this link and discuss about the needful changes if any modification should be done.--Param munde (talk) 17:02, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]