Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Enets

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Enets
submitted verification final decision
Crystal Clear mimetype file temporary.png Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.

This proposal is on hold:

The project will be reconsidered after native speakers express wish to participate. --Millosh (talk) 11:14, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Language code enf (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Enets Language name in English
Language name Онэй база Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q29942 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Enets language
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Samoyedic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Cyrillic script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 43

Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

My friends, I hope that Enets Wikipedia will be opened. I understand that it is very hardly to make the Wikipedia in Enets language but I will try. -- incubator:User:Максим, 20:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Support -- incubator:User:Максим, 20:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Support, not a big deal. Give it some time and chance, and maybe we obtain a good thing. Of course, some people may say that this language is moribund (only 40-50 nat. speakers), but it taught in schools (in at least one school, as I know). In addition, I doubt that anyone will feel good if Enets language will die.--Tamara Ustinova (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
    Consider calling that school and asking for native speakers to join this effort. Then this project will have a chance. Eligibility requisite 4: The proposal has a sufficient number of living native speakers to form a viable community and audience. Without native speakers there can be no Wikipedia. A Wikisource project can be considered, or maybe adding known Enets words to an existing Wiktionary (probably Russian). --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • oppose. It is a language with only 43 native speakers. Geoalex (talk) 19:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Ridiculous argument, sorry.--Tamara Ustinova (talk) 13:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Certainly it is not. Please consider reading the eligibility requisite #4 described above. Tokvo (talk) 18:25, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose, I'd like to see at least one native speaker willing to contribute. Max Semenik (talk) 15:49, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Neutral arguments[edit]

  • none

Other discussion[edit]