Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Nenets

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Nenets Wikipedia[edit]

←main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Nenets
submitted verification final decision
Crystal Clear mimetype file temporary.png Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.

This proposal is on hold:

Waiting for native speakers. --Millosh 19:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code yrk (SIL, Ethnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Nenets Language name in English
Language name Ненэцяʼ вада Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36452 - item has currently the following values:
  • English label = Nenets
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Samoyedic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) =
  • writing system (P282) = Cyrillic script, Q19604693
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 21,926±0


 Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community ‎Владислав Песков (N), ‎Jugydmort (P), ‎Kaganer (P)
You can optionally list your user name if you're a contributor to the wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links * http://yamalkino.narod.ru/3_week_yamal_animation_nariyana_ngarm.htm
Site URL yrk.wikipedia.org langcode.wikiproject.org
Settings
Project name "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Files should be uploaded to Commons, but if you want, you can enable local file uploading.
Notes: (1) files on Commons can be used on all wikis; (2) this setting can be changed afterwards; (3) uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info); (4) localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit maniphest task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

A living language (with 40,000 speakers).

Arguments in favour[edit]

Arguments against[edit]

  • Oppose, the number of native speakers is very low, articles on the incubator page are almost empty (2-3 Nenets words with links on Russian), it means that this community is not active and, unfortunately, in my opinion, can not be active at all. A lot of people, who can speak Nenets, live in tundra without the Internet access, most of them are old people. So a lot of young Nenets people living in cities and using Internet can not read and write Nenets language fluently. Therefore I think that this Wiki will be empty and not useful, unfortunately. --LexArt 08:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I regret voting this way, but I am not convinced by the number of speakers.-MacRusgail (talk) 23:00, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]

Is this request for Forest or Tundra Nenets? --OosWesThoesBes 08:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Tundra--Jugydmort 15:47, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

There is only one Nenets recognised under the yrk code.. Both Forest and Tundra are understood to be the same language. We are talking Nenets not Enets.. GerardM (talk) 12:22, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Forest Nenets de-facto is separate language, but it have very few speakers and not have official status. Here is Tundra Nenets project (de-facto). May be, we need to create a separate Forest Nenets project, if we find his speakers. (Sorry, if my English is bad). --Jugydmort (talk) 16:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

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