Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Simple Chinese 2

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Simple Chinese 2
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This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Waiting for answers to my comments below. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
No one responded to my comments below. This proposal is closed. Further proposals will be speedy deleted unless they address my questions. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code  (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name SimpleChinese Language name in English
Language name 汉语简易版版 Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q7850 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Chinese
  • native label (P1705) = 汉语
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language family, language, macrolanguage, modern language / Sino-Tibetan languages, Sinitic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = zh
  • writing system (P282) = Chinese characters, traditional Chinese characters, simplified Chinese characters
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 1,299,877,520


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name 维基百科易懂版 "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Proposal[edit]

Discussion[edit]

便于小学生等文化程度不高学习以及专业领域外的人出于兴趣希望了解某领域知识。 1、尽量用简明易懂的语言,避免以术语解释术语。 2、尽量实现口语化表达。

see zh:Wikipedia:行话解释, "尽量用简明易懂的语言,避免以术语解释术语。"本来就是维基百科的一个要求--Shizhao (talk) 07:58, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
and Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Simple Chinese--Shizhao (talk) 08:08, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
确实,我们中文百科相对来说需要一定的知识基础才能理解,与我们平时交流用词也有差距,其实不仅对于小学生,对于45岁以上没有接触过太多网络语言影响的人来说理解也是很头痛的,就拿我个人来说吧就是拉货开车的大老粗一个,初中毕业,有时候出来点什么新鲜玩意,觉得好玩想查查电脑基本看不懂,因为它用来解释的话也看不懂,还是在以词解词,可能对于有一定知识的人来说这已经不算了,如果真能建一个老幼咸宜的通俗简明版的维基百科当然很好,但是如何让它通俗,如何让它变得简明易懂本身就是很难的事。 --冰莑 (talk) 05:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

真要把专业知识通俗化,很难。最主要的是,谁有闲功夫弄这个? --冰莑 (talk) 05:22, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote oversat.svg Strong oppose: The sponsor is really idle and too boring. I recommend that the language committee members directly reject this proposal. / 提案者真是太无聊了。我建议语言委员会成员直接拒绝此提案。--夢蝶葬花@生涯不敗 11:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

LangCom comments:

  • If "boring" is an accurate translation for the Chinese here, please do not personally insult or attack other contributors.
  • Ordinarily, we would not entertain a new request so soon after a previous similar request was rejected. (See Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Simple Chinese.) In case that closure was not clear, though, let me restate exactly what needs to happen if you want a proposal like this marked "eligible":
  1. You need to provide evidence that there is already an established standard for simplified Chinese that is in widespread use. (Just to be clear, we're talking about simplified language, not simplified characters.)
  2. You need to get agreement from the Chinese Wikipedia community to incubate the simplified content inside Chinese Wikipedia.
  • You have 30 days to show #1 above, and if you succeed, then another 30 days to show #2 above. Otherwise, this request will be rejected. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 16:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: If the requestor is him(her)self having bad behavior, then how do you hope that this request can even valid? Valid as a playground of sockmasters? None of your questions are to be waitting for 30 days, because any good Chinese Wikipedia contributors can and will only tell you 4 alphabets: NOPE. --117.15.55.228 07:49, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Not a relevant comment. This is not about alphabets, as I have made clear. And bad behavior needs to be addressed privately, not by name calling on-wiki. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: It's already 31 days past now, and still no actual users answered your question, shouldn't we just reject this now? (and for future such request, speedy reject them?) --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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