Requests for new languages/Wikiquote Minangkabau

submitted	verification	final decision

	Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. *Votes will be ignored* when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy). The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved. Check that the project does not already exist (see list). Obtain an ISO 639 code Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki. Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language. This proposal is on hold**: On hold, pending (1) cleaning up the redirects from the test project to the Wiktionary test, and (2) some additional creation of Wikiquote content in the test. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	min (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Minangkabau	Language name in English
Language name	Minangkabau	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q13324 - item has currently the following values: English label: Minangkabau native label (P1705): bahaso Minangkabau instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language / Minangkabauic Wikimedia language code (P424): min writing system (P282): Latin script, Jawi number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 5,530,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links		Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	min.wikiquote.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikiquote	"Wikiquote" in your language
Project namespace	Wikiquote	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Rundiang Wikiquote	"Wikiquote talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo		This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Jakarta	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Proposal[edit]

The Minangkabau language (autonym: Baso Minang(kabau)) is an Austronesian language spoken by the Minangkabau people. In 2011, approximately 8.5 million people speaks the language.

Minangkabau people hails from West Sumatra, in the western edge of Indonesia. In its region of origin, the language has a number of dialects and sub-dialects. Before the arrival of European colonial rule, Minangkabau society was comprised of hundreds of sovereign localities called nagaris. Each nagaris have their distinct and unique dialect of Minangkabau language, particularly on the phonological level. Some of the major dialects are Pasaman, Pariaman, Padang, Payakumbuh, Agam-Tanah Datar, Pasisia, Solok, and Sawahlunto.While Minangkabau dialects and sub-dialects vary in lexical and phonological level, most Minangkabau people speaks and understands the two major dialects, Padang and Agam-Tanah Datar. The language was original written using the Jawi script, adapted from Arabic, but modern native speakers mostly writes the language in Latin script due to 19th century efforts of romanization, and a standardized official orthography was published in 1976.

Minangkabaus were particularly known for their tradition of merantau; immigrating from the hinterlands of West Sumatra. They were found all over the modern country of Indonesia but also to neighbouring countries like Malaysia and Singapore. Immigrating Minangkabaus developed their distinct version of Minang language, as were found in the western part of Riau, Southern Aceh, the northern part of Bengkulu and Jambi. In Aceh, the version is known as Aneuk Jamee; while in Malaysian state of Negeri Sembilan, it is known as Baso Nogori.

While Minangkabau people produces some of the most renowned authors in the modern literary of Indonesia, a writing tradition in Minangkabau itself is very scarce, as the language has slowly progressed into the situation of diglossia. Most Minangkabau people speaks the language, but writes in Malay and, after Indonesian independence, Indonesia. Tambo Alam Minangkabau, regarded as the most trusted source of Minangkabau tradition and customs, was written in a Malay prose. Generally, written sources in Minangkabau language are about customs, law, folklore, and recipes.

The Minangkabau Wikipedia was launched back on February 2013, one of a very few effort to spur the modern growth of a writing tradition in Minangkabau. Most of the contributors are based in Padang, the capital of West Sumatra, but significant number of them also came from Jakarta and other cities in Indonesia. The Minangkabau Wikipedia now has approximately 222,000 articles (per November 2018), with a growing community of editors.

A Wiktionary in Minangkabau language is on project right now and building an online compendium of Minangkabau words and loanwords using available online and offline resources. The Minangkabau Wikimedians in Padang enjoys support from institutions such as the Minangkabau Studies Department at Andalas University and West Sumatra Regional Language Authority (Balai Bahasa Sumatera Barat), which has agreed to share their resources for the project.

Next, it will be great if Minangkabau people also have some quotes from their cultre online. Therefore, this Wikiquote in bahasa Minangkabau is needed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harditaher (talk) 12:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Supporters[edit]

Support Harditaher (talk) 12:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Harditaher: Please do not just create an "eligible" request, the eligiblity of language request is judged by langcom members. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Faishal Wafiq Zakiy (talk)
Support Ardzun (talk) 09:50, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

As Liuxinyu says, don't create "eligible" requests.
I'm a little confused. On Incubator, there are a lot of redirects to Wiktionary, but only a few actual Wikiquote pages. What's going on? StevenJ81 (talk) 18:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Harditaher: In theory this ought to be eligible. But what you've got on Incubator right now is a mess, and you've had no other contributors. Can you clean things up and recruit contributors? StevenJ81 (talk) 15:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@StevenJ81: Sorry late reply, at the time the community writing for wiktionary Minangkabau, there were some who put words in wikiquote. Sorry for that. Will clean all the mess up and recruit contributor as your request. Many thanks. Harditaher (talk) 05:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have my reservations about creating Wikiquote in Minangkabau. I know for a fact that there are large unexplored resources of quotes and traditional sayings in the language, but I don't think that it would be feasible to create a separate Wikiquote for it, the question of community and editor retention notwithstanding. For now, it seems to be a good idea to explore whether it is feasible to just put the quotes and sayings at wt.min. D.W. Fisher-Freberg (talk) 13:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]