Talk:Global sysops

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Help with the Wikipedia in lengua vèneta

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but if not, I apologize. I'm making several contributions to the vec:Wikipedia:Prinsipio, and I've also applied to be an administrator. However, the administrators haven't been in touch or responding for months. Is there any way to contact them? What can be done? Sinucep (talk) 15:44, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

There are no recently active administrators on that project. See Steward_requests/Permissions#Administrator_access for how to become an administrator on a small project. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:58, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much @Xaosflux. I see the timing is right (10 days since I started the discussion). I understand that if there's no activity, no comments are necessary. I made the request on the page, does everything seem ok to you? Sinucep (talk) 19:40, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Add translationadmin to Global sysops

Global sysops occasionally needs to delete translation pages on some multilingual wikis, which is restricted to sysops with translationadmin rights. However, any local sysops can grant the rights to self, and global sysops can't. That's why I think this will not be a bad idea to grant the following perms to the group:

• pagelang
• translate-import
• translate-manage
• pagetranslation

Thanks, 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 00:23, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

What multilanguage wiki's don't have a community process to manage their TAdmins? — xaosflux ^Talk 02:57, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

I guess almost every wiki has (except foundationwiki or mediawikiwiki), but when a translation page deletion comes to us, we can't take action there. And as you have mentioned about community process, all wikis also have community process to manage their sysops and inter-admins, but gs's have those rights. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 03:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Both foundationwiki and mediawiki have processes for managing TA if GS need access [1][2] (examples [3][4]). Johannnes89 (talk) 05:57, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll follow those instructions to request local rights. But is that not possible to add those with the gs bundle instead? 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 06:02, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

 Oppose Not all GS have TA experience and not knowing how the extension works will break pages unnecessarily. GS experienced with the translate extension can, and should, go through the normal process of getting the right through community input. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 06:09, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

 Support but do you really need all 4 rights to delete a translation page? Leaderboard (talk) 06:16, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

I don’t know, if one or two of those rights is enough to delete translation page, then adding one or two is ok, someone experienced might help. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 06:19, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Found it on mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation administration, Deletion requires "delete" and "pagetranslation" permission. So adding the pagetranslation only is enough. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 06:41, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Per above,  Support adding pagetranslation only. -- CptViraj (talk) 12:31, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Need to think more on this; striking for now. -- CptViraj (talk) 12:34, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Routine maintenance not defined, just a pair of words

I think that there is a minor problem in the policy; the concept of "routine maintenance" is not defined in any way. I refer you to this discussion. Global sysops who come from diverse backgrounds might have thoughts of their own about what is routine maintenance based on their own experience or the policies of those wikiprojects they are familiar with. First, the scope of "maintenance" should be defined, and secondly, the meaning of "routine" should be clarified. I understand that the words have been there over 16 years. I am wondering whether there were so many external tools available back then to produce lists of low-priority issues that really do not need much attention? --Pxos (talk) 17:40, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Global policies in general tend to be flexible, and offer relatively broad scopes of action. In exchange, users who are granted advanced global permissions are expected to use their judgment and correct any errors. When dealing with hundreds of projects, it would be hard to do the opposite (codifying as much as possible). In this case, the scope of global sysop is essentially non-controversial, non-content work like deleting empty pages and fixing double redirects. – Ajraddatz (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I think the phrase "are expected ... to correct any errors" is the very thing that needs clarification. You said that "codifying as much as possible" is hard, but how about codifying at least something? Why don't use some kind of priority scale for maintencance, like:

• High priority (smoke): if something is broken and affects several readers of the wiki = you may act alone as a global sysop.
• Medium priority (kindling): if something is broken or clearly redundant but does not affect the basic user experience very much or at all = think of asking the locals and if they aren't any, act alone or come back later.
• Low priority (weed): redundant stuff that really does not bother anyone = ask the locals or point the problems to the community; if no response, consider leaving things as they were.

That would not be codifying too much, but would give the global cleaning staff at least some kind of frame. (The categories are just quickly drafted, but I hope you get the idea.) Fighting vandalism or abuse is putting out fires, so that is not included here. This is about maintenance. --Pxos (talk) 12:00, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Wikinews is closed

I don't want to edit this page for fear of breaking the translation markup somehow, but we can safely remove English Wikinews from the list at Global sysops#Check local policies. lp0 on fire () 14:41, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Done, Thanks. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 14:59, 5 May 2026 (UTC)