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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello, Leaderboard. Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

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I replied at SRGP for the public, but I also wanted to raise an issue with this comment here. That is nowhere near correct. users are held to the same standards as others while applying for global permissions, and statements like the one you made is one of the reasons why some users do not take meta seriously. As a user who is basically only active on and meta, I have found nothing but a welcoming community of users here who with a few exceptions have never held against me the fact that the only content project I edit on is

Comments like you made are not helpful at all and only discourage users who could be resources to the global Wikimedia movement from getting involved and making cross-project connections with other users, which is significantly more important than xwikiness by edit count. I'd appreciate it if you didn't help perpetuate the idea that en users are not welcome here if they only contribute to en. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thank you for the comment. From my experience, I do feel that users are set to a slightly higher level of scrutiny by the community, which is what I wanted to point out. Just slightly, and it in no way undermines the contribution of the user there. I am not trying to say that en users aren't welcome here, and I would evaluate an applicant's suitability without prejudice to this fact. Leaderboard (talk) 05:55, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
There is simply no policy basis for your statement on meta or in any global policy. It was out of place, just as my saying something similar about any other large project would be. If anything, sysop or above on any major project actually makes getting global permissions easier because it shows community trust. This user wasn’t a sysop, but like any other user who wasn’t qualified from any other project they were rejected. has nothing to do with it. And yes, your statement does undermine that user’s contributions because it promotes the false idea that en users need not even attempt to get involved on meta if they don’t care about getting involved editing other projects. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:00, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
@TonyBallioni: I don't think so. The core focus of my reasoning was the lack of experience at SRUC and adminship, not the fact that they are an user. The part about the "bar set slightly higher" was taken from some community concerns in the past that there were too many users applying for the role in this past. Leaderboard (talk) 06:12, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
And those concerns have been rejected every other time they have been raised as having no merit whatsoever by the community. Repeating a view that is outside of consensus as somehow being the standard only legitimizes it, which is why I’m speaking out against it.

As an aside, having no experience at SRUC is a positive for me at least, as there’s nothing someone who isn’t a renamer or steward can do there that is helpful. I’ve actually opposed people on the grounds that they were too involved with clerking at en:WP:CHUS. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:19, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: I wouldn't call them as 'no merit', just that they weren't backed up with sufficient consensus from other users. As for SRUC, I was looking for some evidence that (s)he had tried to do something before applying for the bit, and couldn't find any. I admit though that I am not a user and do not know about the drawbacks of clerking/helping at SRUC. Leaderboard (talk) 06:23, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
If 80%+ of the community disagrees that it’s an issue, it means they have no merit. Clerking at renaming boards is makework that is more often than not disruptive in my view. I would have opposed them too, but “en user with no experience in global renames” is a bad reason to oppose, as no one has any relevant experience in the global rename policy until they have done global renames. The policy is very lightweight and it’s mainly convention more than anything else, which of course you don’t actually experience until you’re a renamer. Anyway, just please be more careful about promoting ideas that could be perceived as anti-en here. There are many users from en who actively avoid meta because it has a reputation for not wanting anything to do with en users (and en has its reputation issues as well.)

In my view that way of looking at meta is largely outdated, which is why I call out thins that reinforce that view when I see them. TonyBallioni (talk) 06:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thank you for sharing your concern. I didn't realise that this could be taken as 'anti-en' and will try to take that into consideration in the future. Leaderboard (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Not a problem. Thank you for being willing to engage on this :) I do appreciate it a lot :) TonyBallioni (talk) 06:38, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Please tell someone to stop this user: FURRYS TO THE GAS CHAMBER[edit]

FURRYS TO THE GAS CHAMBER is growing vandalism and attack pages. Please take mass cleanup of obvious vandalism. Thanks! 11:44, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm trying my best, but I only have autopatroller here. Leaderboard (talk) 11:46, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for comment! But this user did vandalizing user talk pages, then growing LTA vandalism. 11:51, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I've tried pinging a steward on IRC, but there hasn't been any response. Leaderboard (talk) 11:56, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
The user is now globally locked. Thanks for helping. Leaderboard (talk) 11:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Have I done digital media use and mental health wrong?[edit]

Thanks for the nomination for deletion. I'm just trying to follow the translation guidelines to try and get volunteers for translation from meta. Is it wrong? I changed it from speedy to normal nominate for deletion, change it back if necessary. Thanks E.3 (talk) 08:19, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@E.3: Are you saying that you want to get this article translated? Because on the surface it looks as if that article is copy-pasted from Wikipedia... Leaderboard (talk) 09:27, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
yeah basically just asking for translation reading this policy was trying to do step 1? E.3 (talk) 09:44, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for adminship/Leaderboard[edit]

Fyi. Matiia (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Matiia: Did not notice that, thank you! Leaderboard (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Since when did we ban emojis?[edit]

I was unaware that emojis were starting to be disallowed at Meta. I possibly could see warning/disallowance in main ns., though talk places should be allowable. If you think that we need a conversation, then happy to see you bring it up at Meta:Rfh.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Billinghurst: I removed the namespace restriction because vandals were bypassing the filter by doing this at their userpage and talkpage. Leaderboard (talk) 07:24, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, and since when have we started to block emojis without a community consensus. If you think that there is a case, then have the conversation, not undertake unilateral action for what is an isolated and usually non-problematic set of actions to 99.99% of our users.

The LTAs will continually just change their trollish behaviour to the next (variation of) technique, not stop their trollish behaviour. So tell me the benefit of chasing from user talk space to user space to main ns? What have you stopped? What you are doing is playing their game, not making it hard for them.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Filter 161[edit]

Where is the consensus to reduce the filter to autoconfirmed? I see a consensus to autopatrol, but not for autoconfirmed. Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat/Archives/2018-06#Notice_to_administrators_—_consideration_of_application_of_autopatrol_right — regards, Revi 13:36, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@-revi: There isn't. I've rollbacked that change and will seek consensus on that filter soon as well. Leaderboard (talk) 13:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Disbaled AF 207[edit]

Hi. 207 was having too many false positives, so I have turned it off. You may need to look at some exclusions (p+ve use cases) for legitimate edits, and try a longer test period before re-implementing. To note that with AF that we are better to be softer rather than harsher, as it is easier to manage those that sneak through and they have less negative consequences. It would also be useful to look at overlap, as it seems that there has been some of that, and running parallel similar filters is less than ideal, when the outcome is not significantly different.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

What are you doing with these pages?[edit]

Redirects of pages like MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext/en-CA don't work. Did you test this somewhere before doing that? For example look at this link while not logged in. I've deleted these pages. — xaosflux Talk 22:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: I do remember testing them before on Wikibooks/MediaWiki, but will take a look again at that. Thanks for letting me know. Leaderboard (talk) 22:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
There are better options for minor language variant fall back, but most of them have been stalled at phab for a while. Generally, we just discourage the use of these types of languages (in general we discourage most interface message customizations on meta-wiki since users can have any language here and we have no idea what they may be). In cases where something like matching a /en-CA message to the /en one is absolutely needed, transcluding is generally the way to do it (again it is normally just not done at all). — xaosflux Talk 22:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

SE Question[edit]

It seems that your SE question is mostly unanswerable. The number of active users (what I assume you mean by members) does not factor into stewards' review of a request for adminship on RFP. What does matter is the number of people who supported the candidate in their local RfA (to decide term limits) and whether there's local bureaucrats (if yes, its not for stewards). Stuffing in two exponential growth equations shouldn't affect any response. However, regardless of how you worded the question, their response is incorrect. I'm not sure if your question was intentionally worded this way, but it did bring out a useful answer. Vermont (talk) 13:47, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Vermont: Thanks for asking. Yes, I was hoping that they'd use the "reasonable assumption in your answer" part in my question to note the bureaucrats and the number of votes part. Was anticipating them to roughly deduce the number of votes from the number of members in that way. Leaderboard (talk) 16:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Your bizarre “bizarre situations” question[edit]

Is it not intentionally confusing and vague? It's not exactly thought-provoking, either. Probably the best answer is just to ignore the hypothetical logically impaired user, but considering past responses we're likely to see AGF pop up and/or a generic "I'd talk with all parties". My question for you is: how could answers to this question influence your judgement of a candidate? I've been following this election relatively closely and don't see how this question adds to it. I'm happy to hear your thoughts. Also, for my own curiousity, why have you decided to go with mostly mathematics themes questions? Thanks, Vermont (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Vermont: I had recycled this question from last year (where I posed this question to only one candidate, who gave a very good answer to it), so no, I did not intend this question to be intentionally confusing and vague, though it could end up being so and I appreciate your feedback on it. As for your second question, well it's just that I like maths and wanted to apply it in a miniscule scale here (though one of the questions I gave was quite badly written and actually inappropriate considering the candidate's background that I'm thrown it out). Leaderboard (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Interesting. Thank's for the response. Vermont (talk) 11:23, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Just a bizzare question[edit]

Since 0.999999(recurring)=1, if a SE candidate obtain 79.9999(recurring), should he/she be promoted? Just wondering as this may be the possiblity. I can't find any other people to discuss with, hence it's here. Thanks.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:31, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Sorry for the late response, my email wasn't working properly. The answer is no in the case of meta, as they explicitly require a 80% and 80 - x will always be less than a bound E, as we don't round up. Leaderboard (talk) 22:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Make sense, the bound E explanation. Thanks :) --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

We sent you an e-mail[edit]

Hello Leaderboard,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email

You can see my explanation here.

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Bad edit matrix[edit]

Hi, what do you mean by "bad edit matrix"? I'm not familiar with this term and I want to understand the issue. Thanks and regards, Squasher (talk) 06:02, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Squasher: Hi, I just meant that you do not have a history of editing in many wikis (as you mainly focus on German Wikipedia), and many global renamers usually focus on multiple wikis. Don't worry too much about it, since you have a valid reason for requesting the right. Leaderboard (talk) 10:23, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I did not know this might be an issue. Thank you for the explanation. Regards, Squasher (talk) 12:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)