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Proposed additions

Wikimedia RU wiki

Wikimedia RU - is an approved chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation for territory of Russian Federation. Purpose of the wiki - planning and discussing the steps needed to develop the association.



I propose "wmru" prefix (as for other WMF Local Chapters).
Standard MediaWiki URL format - http://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1
--Kaganer 12:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Done. --MZMcBride 23:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! --Kaganer 00:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed removals

wikiznanie.ru

Prefix: WZNAN

I propose to remove this prefix because it's practically not used (google search in ruwiki shows 5 hits not in articles), and linking to this site would not improve any article. This project Wikiznanie.ru was created in 2003 as an "alternative" to Russian Wikipedia but has been abandoned since 2007. It's still online probably because it's generating some money for it's owner (there are multiple ads on every page). The corresponding article was finally deleted from English Wikipedia about a month ago (en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WikiZnanie (2nd nomination)). -AlexSm 19:37, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

No opposition for this request; Removed Removed (diff). —Innv {ru-ws} 11:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

porplemontage.com

PMWiki http://old.porplemontage.com/wiki/index.php/

There's no wiki (or apparently anything else) on that site. - 68.76.16.14 13:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed Removed. Pmlineditor  14:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

c2.com

Prefix: wiki

This is a broken site, returning a blank page. This has also been shown to be misleading, as shown by this bug: bugzilla:22513. X! 18:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

The site does work if you strip the "?". But with so many other interwiki pointers to the same URL (WikiWikiWeb, PyWiki, C2, and C2find), plus the potential confusion of this one, I'm not sure what the point of this one is. However, BridgesWiki (http://c2.com:8000/$1) has no response on that port. - 68.76.16.14 14:34, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I removed the "?". Pmlineditor  14:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
No, removing the "?" was only for accessing the site without parameters, to confirm that it's live. It is required for the interwiki link to work. - 68.76.16.14 16:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Added back. Pmlineditor  14:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Domains abandoned to ad-squatters

Links to these sites are effectively spam links now; breaking them would be an improvement. - 68.76.16.14 18:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There are also quite a few entries in the map that point to dead sites, deleted wikis, etc. Is there any point in keeping those? - JasonAQuest 14:30, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Removed Removed; and no, but please give us the list. (@JasonAQuest) Pmlineditor  14:44, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Agree there's not much point in keeping broken links or spam sites. ++Lar: t/c 15:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

List follows. - JasonAQuest 17:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Another ad site

This is not so much an ad site as it is that the domain is now parked (It seems likely that the domain name lapsed and was acquired by a speculator). Its last know legitimate activity was in Nov. 2007 (see http://web.archive.org/web/20071103172938/wikireason.net/wiki/Forum_Entrance ) Still, the web site is now clearly defunct and its entry should be removed.--Mytwosense 01:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes check.svg http://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=1942739 Cbrown1023 talk 21:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Not responding: DNS

Actually this one is working. The URL should be changed to http://infosecpedia.org/wiki/ though. -99.35.9.120 14:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done [1] [2]

Not responding: HTTP

Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Host up but site does not exist

Yes check.svg Done [3] [4] Cbrown1023 talk 21:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Non-functional software

Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

No content: software default page

Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

No content: apparently deleted

Yes check.svg Done, all except spcom, which might not have all of its content deleted. Cbrown1023 talk 21:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Prompts for authentication

Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:51, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Requests for updates

ChoralWiki

At present, ChoralWiki links are directed to http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/$1. As discussed here, the structure of ChoralWiki has recently changed, such that [5] is the 'Contributor's website', which requires registration for access, whereas the main user access (with anonymous access enabled) is via, for example, [6] - it would therefore seem better to direct the interwiki links to a 'Users' website' rather than a 'Contributors' website'. Thanks, Carminowe of Hendra 22:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Please state exactly to which of the mentioned urls the page should link to. Thanks --Barras talk 17:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Please consider the request withdrawn - the ChoralWiki site now seems to have been modified such that the interwiki links are automatically redirected to a user access site anyway. Thanks, Carminowe of Hendra 21:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Creatures Wiki

Could someone update CreaturesWiki to go to http://creatureswiki.net/wiki/$1? We're moving onto this new domain shortly - it will work as a redirect until then. GreenReaper 04:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Seems to be already done. --Barras 18:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
No, it isn't . . . the map still has creatures.wikia.com. GreenReaper 18:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/$1 links to the same page as your page. Your url seems to be a redirect. --Barras talk 17:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
That's so we can change links first. :-) We're moving off Wikia, after which our wiki will be at creatureswiki.net. Until then, the new URL will redirect to creatures.wikia.com. We're changing interwikis first (as with WikiFur) so that creatureswiki: can remain valid both before and after the move. (Wikia policy is not to redirect off-Wikia even after a community moves and they close the wiki, so it'll break otherwise.) GreenReaper 21:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

MusicBrainz

The MusicBrainz interwiki link currently points to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/$1, please update it to point to http://musicbrainz.org/doc/$1. The contents of the wiki are transcluded to /doc making the article names the same, however, /doc allows site administrators to control which revision of a page is accessible (e.g. for accuracy or spam control) making it the official version of the documentation. --navap 17:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Barras talk 17:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, that was extremely fast. How long does it usually take for the change to propagate to wikipedia.org? The page is a bit unclear stating "A script copies the list below into the database fairly regularly (usually once in several months)". --navap 17:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
The last update was done upon my request in October/November. I tried last time to get an other update, but it wasn't done til now. I hope to get an update during the next two months or something. --Barras talk 18:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

CentralWikia

Per the relocation of Central Wikia, the interwiki link to it needs to be updated to http://community.wikia.com

The corporate site now exists at www.wikia.com and the suitable Wikia link can remain "as-is". Thanks --Charitwo 04:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done by Kylu (diff). —Innv {ru-ws} 04:14, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikitech

The wikitech interwiki link leads to an https: page, with a bad certificate. Please change the wikitech: to http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/$1 (http: NOT HTTPS:) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Manishearth (talk)

Yes check.svg Done Pmlineditor  12:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Creative Commons

Current address of Creative Commons wiki is http://wiki.creativecommons.org/$1 , no http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/$1 Please improve. Also neede improve interwiki prefix: "Creative Commons" - it currently is not worked prefix. Maybe create it as "creativecommons" or "creativecommonswiki" ("ccwiki" is better, but ccwiki.org are exist), because "Creative Commons" means not only wiki-site? --Kaganer 17:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure interwiki prefixes can contain spaces. I wonder if any of them work. --MZMcBride 14:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I try, this - not worked ;) I propose improve link, change prefix to "creativecommons" and forget it ;) --Kaganer 19:54, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Spaces don't work, no, see the note on the top of the interwiki map: Editing administrators should remember that the prefix (first column) cannot contain spaces ( ), colons (:), ampersands (&), or equal signs (=). Cbrown1023 talk 20:52, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
ok, this link was added by User:Barras at 2009-11-18 based on this talk. If I understand correctly - not for links to the cc wiki, but for links to the license pages (called "commons deeds" or "License Deeds"). Maybe this good idea, but still does not work :( --Kaganer 22:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
After this small researsh, I propose:
  1. Improve prefix for current link to "creativecommons"
  2. Add new prefix "creativecommonswiki" or "cc-wiki" with link as http://wiki.creativecommons.org/$1
--Kaganer 22:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Cbrown1023 talk 21:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Troubleshooting

Interwiki problems

Hi. All the following links correspond to localized families and are equally structured. If you use them in any non-localized project (like here in meta) or any non-English-localized one (like es:w), you arrive to targets of different type.

I think this is an abnormal functioning. Isn't it? You may try this in the es:w:Sandbox. Gustronico 07:39, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Hola Gustronico. Los interwikis de los propios proyectos no se añaden a la esta página, sino que están añadidos automáticamente a la base de datos; si hay algún problema con ellos deberías abrir un bug para que los administradores de la base de datos lo revisen. No obstante, algunos comentarios: para wikinews yo uso [[n:]] y para wikiversity [[v:]] Estos, puestos aquí te redirigen a los proyectos en inglés, si los pones en la zona de pruebas de eswiki te deberían redirigir a los respectivos proyectos en castellano. En efecto en la versión larga no lo hacen. Dejo esto abierto unos días para atraer más comentarios. Saludos, —Dferg (disputatio) 09:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Gracias Dferg. Efectivamente, los ejemplos que pones no funcionan como enlaces interproyecto dentro del mismo idioma, pero esa es una característica de todos los interwikis largos [7], y se debe justamente a que están definidos en esta misma página como enlaces a las versiones en inglés, y no en el software. La forma correcta de enlazar a otro proyecto en otro idioma es poner el código de localización idiomática después del interproyecto, usando preferiblemente la versión corta (n:es:Portada) aunque la larga también funciona (wikinews:es:Portada). El problema radica en que es muy común encontrar [8] el prefijo de idioma antes del interproyecto, y eso es lo que no funciona para es:wikinews: y es:wikiversity:, aunque sí para los demás proyectos. Bueno, al parecer se trata de un bug entonces. Gustronico 19:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Sí, creo que es cosa de abrir un bug dado que desde esta página no tenemos acceso a esos prefijos interwiki. Un saludo, — Dferg (disputatio) 16:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)