Talk:List of articles every Wikipedia should have/Expanded

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"Eruca sativa" (Q25694275) is a recognized species but it's linked to "Eruca vesicaria subsp. sativa" (Q156884), one of its synonyms[edit]

Eruca sativa should be linked to WD Q25694275 since it's a recognized species (see https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:1110374-2), Eruca vesicaria subsp. sativa was a subspecies of Eruca vesicaria but today it's only a synonym of Eruca Sativa (see https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:2798761-4). Loupeter (talk) 16:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great changes without discussion?[edit]

I just notice there are great differences between the "quota" mentioned on List of articles every Wikipedia should have/Expanded and the current actual number of articles.

Article Count
Section Article Count Quota
People 1943 2000
Anthropology, psychology and everyday life 158 800
Philosophy and religion 393 350
Society and social sciences 1006 900
Mathematics 300 300
Physical sciences 1350 1350
Biology and health sciences 1100 1100
Technology 995 800
Arts 955 600
Geography 1000 1000
History 800 800
Total 10000 10000

Is there any discussion for the changes before? Ivanlam88 (talk) 14:09, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, some of conceps just moved from Anthropology… group to other, more precise. For example, most of time measuring things moved to Technology. I think, we need to refine criteria for this group, or just dissolve it. Tucvbif (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, argument for dissolve this group is that most of concepts, contained in it, so vague and unclear or language-specific. It includes most of colors outside black, white and three basic ones. It includes most of psychologic concetps, like surprise, anxiety, sense, power — things, that we using in our discourse too wide, but can't properly describe and can't be sure that other people meaning on it the same as me. Especially if they speak other language. Tucvbif (talk) 12:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ozu's movies Banshun and Tôkyô monogatari are included in the list of the best movies according to BFI 2022. I believe that his level of significance is higher than that of Armen Dzhigarkhanyan. Dzhigarkhanyan's significance is more local - he is important primarily for USSR and post-Soviet countries.--Reprarina (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

USSR and post-Soviet countries is a very wide portion of the world. Most of the actors we have in the list are from the US. One of those should be suggested instead of a non-US actor. Theklan (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, we have 6, not 4 Soviet actors in the list because Vladimir Vysotsky is not only a singer but he is also very important as an actor. See: ru:Владимир Высоцкий в театре and ru:Владимир Высоцкий в кино. Nikita Mikhalkov is also an actor, not only a director.Reprarina (talk) 09:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Replace Prelude for Motif[edit]

Prelude is quite a vague genre, without clear criteria that can clearly distinguish it from toccata or fantasia. Motif is one of the most fundamental concepts in music.--Reprarina (talk) 10:57, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Replace Basil II for Rajendra I[edit]

We have many Byzantic leaders in the list. At the same time, there is a very little representation of Southern Asia in this historical period. I propose Rajendra I, one of the most important leaders in Tamil history, who annexed Srivijaya, Kedah, Tambralinga and Pegu and build a big postclassical maritime empire thereby. Reprarina (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the contemprorary definition in the English Wikipedia, Work (human activity) = labour.

I think, the concept of labour or work (human activity) is important enough to be in the list. The discipline about one aspect of labour can't be not more important than the concept of labour itself. There are many disciplinces that focus on the concept of labour, such as physiology of labour, sociology of labour, psychology of labour. Labour is a significant and important area of academic and research study. There is a wide range of approaches and perspectives that can be taken to the study of labour, including historical, sociological, economic, and political perspectives. An article on Labour can provide a comprehensive overview of the different approaches and perspectives, and can act as a useful resource for those seeking to learn about the topic.--Reprarina (talk) 13:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A largest conflict in Europe since WW2, severely acting on the world, and having already produced hundredrs of thousands of causalities ― strange it wasn't added before. Well very well (talk) 03:10, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What should be removed for it? Reprarina (talk) 11:20, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some proposals: history of Ukraine (Q210701), as the topic can cover both, or some related to WW2, which is over-represented: 20 July plot (Q105570), Sturmabteilung (Q150793) or Schutzstaffel (Q44687) (because we already have Nazi Party (Q7320)). Theklan (talk) 07:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
History of Ukraine is more important because it is more general. Maybe, Orange revolution? I am not sure that Orange revolution is more important than Euromaidan or Russo-Ukrainian War. Reprarina (talk) 11:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that's a good option. I didn't see it and it makes full sense to add Russo-Ukrainian War, as it covers also the Orange revolution as a background. Theklan (talk) 21:21, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Industry and Manufacturing[edit]

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Industry and Manufacturing in the English Wikipedia are one and the same article. Other Wikipedias often focus on English when compiling a list, which creates difficulties. Perhaps it is possible to simplify the situation at the level of this list by excluding Industry? Reprarina (talk) 18:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English should not be the measure of the list. Manufacturing and Industry are very similar concepts, but not the same, as you can have manufacturing without industry. Theklan (talk) 07:32, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crust (geology) or Earth's crust[edit]

Before changing to wikidata items instead of enwiki, en:Crust (geology) was listed. But now, d:Q15316 links to en:Earth's crust. Which should be respected? -- FlatLanguage (talk) 23:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the "Earth" secdtion, so the second one, I guess. Theklan (talk) 07:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Russian-Ukrainian conflict has almost as many Wikipedias as the Arab-Israeli conflict included in the 1000 most important articles. Orange revolution is probably not even the most important Ukrainian revolution in 21st century.--Reprarina (talk) 21:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree! Theklan (talk) 21:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The concept of autism is now much more outdated than the concept of autism spectrum, and although some Wikipedias have both articles, many big Wikipedias (e.g. English, Spanish, Persian, Swedish, Portuguese, Polish) have already made autism a redirect to autism spectrum. In fact, in today's highly regarded scientific literature, autism is no longer studied as something separate from the autism spectrum. Reprarina (talk) 15:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The English-language writers in the list can be divided into two groups - the first have had a huge cultural impact on the whole world, the second have had such an influence mainly on the English-speaking world. Jerome K. Jerome clearly belongs to the second category, as evidenced by the relatively small number of Wikipedias for an English-language writer which he has, 53. I guess Akutagawa is more global, he has 68. Reprarina (talk) 07:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We really should globalize the list of films[edit]

All 9 movies in the list, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Citizen Kane, Lawrence of Arabia, The Sound of Music, Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Star Wars, The Godfather - are American or British. It's not okay for the expanded list of articles every Wikipedia should have. Despite the dominance of US in cinema industry, there are extremely important movie from other countries: Tôkyô monogatari (Japan), 8 1/2 (Italy), Persona (Sweden) which are consistently included in academic lists of the best films of all time. Reprarina (talk) 19:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Think also about the actor's list. Mostly men, mostly Hollywood. Theklan (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]