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Add Mount Kailash (Q229107), remove Mount Logan (Q120306)

Kailash is a sacred and important site for several religions, including Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism. Mount Logan is a highest mountain in Canada, but its significance is not so high. --Xefon (talk) 07:33, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

1.  Support Indeed. --Algovia (talk) 07:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
2.  Support -- Cataleirxs (talk) 14:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
3.  SupportLightProof1995 (talk) 03:20, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Please, can we close this proposal? The bot is trying to archive it. Thanks. -- Cataleirxs (talk) 20:17, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

cc @Theklan:, @Reprarina:, please. -- Cataleirxs (talk) 16:33, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

Done -Theklan (talk) 06:57, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Remove Tim Duncan

With only 2,000 bios and relatively small number of basketball players, and even fewer Americans (Tim was born in an American possession but played collegiately in the contential US), I don't see how Tim still belongs. He's rarely listed as one of the five greatest or most influential basketball players Purplebackpack89 14:29, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps LeBron James would be a better fit. He is an all-time top scorer in the history of NBA and a 4-time NBA MVP while Duncan got this title only twice. Deinocheirus (talk) 03:33, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

LeBron James is easily more vital than Tim Duncan LightProof1995 (talk) 03:21, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Support removal. --Thi (talk) 22:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

•  Oppose you should propose swaping items, not removing. -- Cataleirxs (talk) 16:22, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Support swap with en:James Naismith Dawid2009 (talk) 19:48, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Add Computer file, remove Nuclear engineering

Computer file is one of the basic concepts of computer science. Why is it not in the list? But we have two very close themes: nuclear engineering and Nuclear technology. Tucvbif (talk) 07:02, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

•  Support per nom. -- Cataleirxs (talk) 16:17, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

Done No opposition for six month.--Tucvbif (talk) 05:59, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Add Tattooing, remove Body art

Tatoooing is more common and ancient type of art, than a theme, described in the Body art article. Tucvbif (talk) 09:16, 7 January 2026 (UTC)

 Support -Theklan (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Done No opposition in two months. -Theklan (talk) 20:16, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

 Oppose I have reverted the change, because tattoo was already in the list. -Theklan (talk) 19:22, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Add phlogiston theory (Q120999319), remove phlogiston (Q193353)

11 out of 32 interwikis from phlogiston (Q193353) direct to phlogiston theory (Q120999319), denoting that the theory is more representative than the substance. -- Cataleirxs (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

 Support - Theklan (talk) 13:16, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Done No oppsition for nearly two months. -Theklan (talk) 20:12, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Remove childhood (Q276258), add Orcus (Q15603)

Despite childhood (Q276258) being a category, many languages are redirecting it to child (Q7569), which covers more or less the same topic, and is part of the core 1000 articles list. Some languages with both articles are covering the same topic in both articles. I suggest to add Orcus (Q15603), as all the other main dwarf planets in the Solar System are in the list. Theklan (talk) 13:19, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Done No opposition in six weeks. -Theklan (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Remove Gila monster (Q207058), add gecko (Q1008888)

The only reason for Gila monster (Q207058) to be in the list is that it lives in the US and its poisonous. Not the largest reptile, not widespread. I would change it for gecko (Q1008888), an important subdivision of the reptiles that lives in every continent except Antarctica, and gives option to add lots of links to other taxons. Theklan (talk) 19:58, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:18, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Done After two months. -Theklan (talk) 19:48, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Error in the counts

From ca.wiki we’ve noticed that there seem to be errors in the counts by topic and in the overall total. Could you please take a look and check it?:

Topic	Yours	Real
People	1943	1943
History	800	802
Geography	1000	1000
Arts	974	974
Philosophy and religion	393	393
Anthropology, psychology...	138	138
Society and social sciences	1006	1005
Biology and health sciences	1092	1092
Physical sciences	1298	1298
Technology	1055	1055
Mathematics	300	300
Total	9999	10000

Thanks -- Cataleirxs (talk) 10:33, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

I don't know where the error is. Could you try to look for the missing articles? Theklan (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Theklan, I release you my script to count all 10k items into lists. I'm working to retrieve the miscount. First run the run method, and then run only the read_item_list (some ajustment in wikicode are need to show results better in a metawiki page). Coet (talk) 14:46, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

I think that the mismatch comes from tattooing, that was twice in the list. I have corrected it reverting the change. Theklan (talk) 15:04, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

@Theklan, there is a discrepancy in the item counts written in the section headers. The issue isn't the articles themselves, but the numbers provided after the comma. Specifically:

• In History, the header says 800, but there are actually 802 items.
• In Society and social sciences, it says 1006, but the real count is 1005.

These errors lead to a total sum of 9,999, while the actual count is exactly 10,000 items. I could update these numbers myself, but I’d prefer someone with a deeper understanding of the quotas and the overall structure of the 10K list to verify and apply the changes. Coet (talk) 17:15, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Take a look on the results of my script. Coet (talk) 19:34, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Done Coet (talk) 10:20, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Remove Grendel (Q29372), add Huitzilopochtli (Q219412)

Having Grendel (Q29372), which is a character of Beowulf, already present in the list is not justified. We don't have articles about American religions, and Huitzilopochtli (Q219412), the main Aztecan deity, is a good candidate. Theklan (talk) 19:05, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

•  Weak support. Two entries on Beowulf are definitely too many. It is an important epic poem, but we only have 1 entry for both Roland and Nibelungenlied, and they are no less notable. One more American deity would be a reasonable replacement, although we may need to discuss separately which (Huitzilopochtli would be a second Aztec deity, so Viracocha may be a better choice). --Deinocheirus (talk) 18:11, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

1.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:13, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

•  Support I agree that a Mesoamerican deity should be added, one that is particularly significant to the Aztec people. However, if we really want to include a deity that was common to many Mesoamerican peoples—not just the Aztecs—the right choice would be Quetzalcóatl. --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 18:51, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

  Quetzalcoatl is already in the list, so we are discussing adding a second (or perhaps third) American deity. Deinocheirus (talk) 19:23, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Remove Ganymede (Q131588), add Viracocha (Q209605)

We have lots of items related to the Greek mythology and literature, and Ganymede (Q131588) seems quite secondary in the list. However, Viracocha (Q209605) was the main Inca deity, creator of the world. We should add at least one deity from South America. Theklan (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:14, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

 Support Theklan (talk) 19:44, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Easy  Support LightProof1995 (talk) 03:19, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Done, substantial support and no opposition over 3 months. --Deinocheirus (talk) 19:38, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Remove Marriage of convenience, add Same-sex marriage

Marriage of convenience is not well defined and in fact cannot even be translated to many languages which is attested by the small number of interwiki links (27 in total). On the other hand, same-sex marriage is better covered by special (scientific and legal) literature and is a higher-interest, higher-social-importance topic. Currently the item exists in over 90 languages and is usually well developed. Deinocheirus (talk) 18:04, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

• Support. --Thi (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
•  Support --Toku (talk) 07:15, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

 Support Theklan (talk) 19:46, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Done, no opposition for over 3 months and supported by multiple editors beside the nominator. --Deinocheirus (talk) 12:20, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Remove Solar energy, add Fuel cell

We already have another article that shared the same theme — solar power. I think fuel cells deserved to be in the list. Tucvbif (talk) 15:43, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

• Agree, Solar energy and Solar power look redundant. But Solar energy looks like much more important topic, 114 articles in different languages while Solar power only has 45. So replacing Solar power seems like a better option. --Deinocheirus (talk) 15:25, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
•  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:15, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Remove Geothermal energy, add Rechargeable battery

Geothermal is a very specific and not widely used type of energy. A rechargeable battery is a crucial part of many electronic devices, from smartphones to electric vehicles. Tucvbif (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

1.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:15, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Remove Flat panel display, add Headphone

An overview of «anything but cathode ray tube» display technologies. Now, when bulky cathode ray tubes became obsolete, the problem of how to make displays flat is irrelevant. I think headphones would be a better option to be in the list. Tucvbif (talk) 16:19, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:15, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support Theklan (talk) 19:51, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support -- Cataleirxs (talk) 17:11, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Multiple mythology characters swap

Inspired by the proposals above to remove a number of Greek deities and demigods and replace them with Native American deities, I have prepared a short list of central deities in different pantheons that can be added to the list replacing another short list of Greco-Roman mythology characters. We can support or oppose any specific item in each list, and in the end only replace the worst-faring characters in the second list with the leaders of the first one. Here it goes.

Add Marduk (Q190123)

Patron deity of Babylon, currently has articles in 67 languages. As opposed to Egyptian, Norse and Greco-Roman mythology, the Sumerian, Accadian or Babylonian mythology is completely absent from the list, except for Epic of Gilgamesh (Q8272) which obviously belongs to a different category (Literature). Given the importance of Babylonian culture in the human history, it seems natural to have their topmost deities in the list. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC). Neutre The number of proposed additions exceeds the number of proposed removals. It's a bit complicated to follow. --Toku (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support -- Theklan (talk) 19:51, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Tiamat (Q145983)

The main antagonist of Marduk, who used her body to create elements of the cosmos. Less-known (articles in 47 languages) but it would seem logical to add them together rather than Marduk alone. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

 Comment Not so sure about this, we can make more space for other pantheons. Theklan (talk) 19:52, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Ishtar (Q47553)

Babylonian/Assyrian goddess of love and war, rather well known (articles in 60 languages, although surprisingly not in English where this item is a redirect to Inanna (Q272523)). Nevertheless I would argue that this deity is better known as Ishtar; the name itself even leaked into the monotheistic texts, as the name Esther is derived from it. --Deinocheirus (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 03:46, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support Theklan (talk) 19:52, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
3. Neutre The number of proposed additions exceeds the number of proposed removals. It's a bit complicated to follow. --Toku (talk) 10:00, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
4.  Support Probably one of the most familiar names among ancient Near Eastern deities. Andrew Dalby (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Add Loki (Q133147)

The trickster god of the Norse mythology, articles in 74 languages. Although we have some Norse gods on the list, Loki is arguably the most popular right now, or at least takes a top-2 spot thanks to Marvel Studios. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support -- Theklan (talk) 19:53, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
4.  Oppose -- Cataleirxs (talk) 17:16, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Add Seth (Q131795)

Egyptian pantheon is well represented on the list right now, but the selection can be improved. We don't need both Amun (Q58373) and Ra (Q1252904) in the list, given that in later versions of the Egyptian pantheon they are one and the same. Seth, with articles in 77 languages, looks like a good replacement. This deity was one of the top gods in the early Egyptian pantheon, and took an even more central role later as the antagonist of Osiris (Q46491) and Horus (Q84122). Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:09, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support If changed with Amun (Q58373) or Ra (Q1252904) -Theklan (talk) 19:54, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Kālī (Q132127)

While Hindu mythology is also well represented, Kali, goddess of death and the central figure in multiple real and fictional cults with articles in 93 languages, looks like a reasonable addition. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:08, 19 April 2026 (UTC). Neutre The number of proposed additions exceeds the number of proposed removals. It's a bit complicated to follow. --Toku (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support -Theklan (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Tuatha Dé Danann (Q654205)

Central race in Gaelic mythology, currently has articles in 34 languages. We do not have anything in the list for the Gaelic mythology, but there doesn't seem to be a single deity that would meet the requirements (The Morrígan (Q828550) is relatively well known as the goddess of war, but she was not one of the main deities for the Irish Celts themselves, and Nuada Airgetlám (Q1075322), while technically the chief god, is rather obscure, appearing for now in just 24 languages), so I suggest in this case to include the entire "pantheon" rather than a single representative. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Oppose Ishtar (Q47553) is better. Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

   Good catch and my bad. I'll include Ishtar as a separate sub-topic. Deinocheirus (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

2.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Add Tlaloc (Q232870)

ONe of the most represented gods in the Aztec pantheon, with its own paradise, and the one appearing in most of the pyramids. I suggest to add this removing one of the Western characters of Beowulf, for instance.

1.  Support -Theklan (talk) 10:16, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
2.  Oppose The number of proposed additions exceeds the number of proposed removals. It's a bit complicated to follow. --Toku (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Remove Amun (Q58373)

Looks redundant as we have Ra (Q1252904) on the list, and they are partially interchangeable while the latter name is arguably better known. See arguments for replacing with Seth (Q131795)). Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support -Theklan (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Remove Ganymede (Q131588)

Was suggested earlier to be replaced with Viracocha (Q209605). Despite having articles in 70 languages, indeed looks like somebody less well known and much less important than other Greek mythological characters on the list, doesn't play active part in any of main narratives and as a result much more problematic to reach the level of developed article (in fact, even in English the major part of the article is about depictions in art). Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)  Support

 Oppose There is already a proposal to swap Ganymede for Viracocha. --Toku (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

 Oppose Because it is proposed above. -Theklan (talk) 19:56, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Not done, replaced with Viracocha based on the discussion from March 11, 2026. --Deinocheirus (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

Remove Medusa (Q160730)

An antagonist in the myth of Perseus (Q130832), whose head plays an instrumental but secondary part in some other topics. Articles in 86 languages which is respectable, but it seems redundant to have both Perseus and Medusa on the list. Alternatively, keep Medusa but remove Andromeda (Q161582) - a third character from the same story on the list, with a rather limited passive role in it and articles in 71 languages. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:17, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
3.  Comment I prefer to remove Andromeda (Q161582), because Medusa (Q160730) has appeared in lots of movies and it's known cultural icon. -Theklan (talk) 19:56, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Remove Europa (Q165170)

Another Zeus abductee, on par with Io (Q179014) and Callisto (Q203673), without an active role in her own myth and articles in 76 languages. As in the case of Ganymede, it's mostly the depictions in art that keep this character on the list but it doesn't seem enough when there is no space for major deities from other mythologies. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:09, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
3.  Support -Theklan (talk) 19:57, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Remove Vulcan (Q4640)

Roman version of Hephaestus (Q44384), with substantially less articles (78 vs. 93) and barely distinguishable. If not for the name (from which the term "volcano" is derived), I don't see any particular reason for this redundancy. Deinocheirus (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support Ipedecha (talk) 02:33, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Oppose --Toku (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
3.  Oppose I prefer to remove Hephaestus (Q44384) and add a Central American deity. -Theklan (talk) 19:57, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

   Is Hephaestus (Q44384) less important than Vulcan, his Roman version ? --Toku (talk) 10:03, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

4.  Support Andrew Dalby (talk) 15:46, 7 June 2026 (UTC)

Add Sedna (Q15610) remove Orcus (Q15603)

I understand that since Orcus was only recently added to the list, this is a risky proposition, but... Excuse me, but why did we decide that Orcus is one of the most important dwarf planets in the Solar System, more important than Sedna?

Sedna is larger, and Sedna has given its name to an entire class of objects—sednoids. Sedna far outstrips Orcus in the number of language sections and reader interest (number of article views).--Reprarina (talk) 07:07, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support --Toku (talk) 07:12, 19 April 2026 (UTC)
2.  Support I proposed Orcus (Q15603), but it can also be Sedna (Q15610) if not both. -Theklan (talk) 19:58, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Operation Condor (Q156017) remove War of 1812 (Q26013)

Operation Condor was a major operation that had a major impact on every South American country, especially Brazil, Argentina and Chile, who history and politics were completly alter from the brutal dictorship that rose because of it. The war of 1812 is minor war that even scholar of US history can tell much about what happened beside washinton burning. By any measure a bunch of war not listed had a bigger impact like Hephthalite–Sasanian Wars (Q16864269). This also adress the lack of South American history compare to North America (although still cover US history). Ipedecha (talk) 14:42, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

 Support Theklan (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

 Oppose. The topic looks underdeveloped for now, which is reflected in much lower number of language versions than the War of 1812 (45 vs 84). Geopolitically (not just continentally but on the global scale) the victory of the USA in 1812 would be hard to overestimate. Deinocheirus (talk) 14:44, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

This is not list of what would happened hypothetical, it doesnt matter what would have if the US won the war, that didnt happened and in reality the war had very few consequence. Your ignorance on Operation condor is also showing, as a example the indonesian backed coup has a result of US sucess in Brazil. The argumment that is underdevelop is also ridiculus, its not in academia having many books and reseach about it, and the purpose of this project is too develop a subject in wikipedia. Ipedecha (talk) 10:18, 16 May 2026 (UTC)

 Oppose This war is the reason why Canada was not annexed by the United States. It is more important than Operation Condor. --Toku (talk) 09:58, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Add Speech recognition, remove Multics

It isn't worth it to have an Operating System that few people have heard of on this list (And I haven't heard about it before - it wasn't mentioned on Wikipedia's template about operating systems last time I checked - that was a few years ago). On the other hand speech recognition should be added to this list for parity with the reverse process (speech synthesis). Draheinsunvale (talk) 13:19, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

1.  Support -- Cataleirxs (talk) 17:13, 26 July 2026 (UTC)