Talk:List of articles every Wikipedia should have/Expanded/Archives/2013

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Sport personnel

This is a thoroughly unsatisfactory section at present. It is overwhelmingly biased towards sports popular in the United States, and biased also in favour of players from the later 20th century. Some very significant sports are absent, or almost so. Cricket? Soccer (Association football)? Rugby? Snooker?... The coverage of golf and tennis, on the other hand is overdone; has too many recent champions, and leaves out some who were crucial to the early development of the sport. I'm going to stick some names in! Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:15, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

"Thoroughly unsatisfactory" is a polite phrase considering this mess! There are about 90% Americans (and I'm not even overestimating), many of them participating in sports few people outside of the US care about. Even I as a basketball fan wouldn't have figured that anyone could think of "Jerry Lucas" as a serious answer to the question which articles every Wikipedia should have. And the rest seems to be an awkward attempt by someone not very familiar with the related sports to "fix" this bias. For starters, why is Gerd Müller included, but not Franz Beckenbauer? The probable answer is: Because he was the one to score the goals, representing a pretty limit view on what happens on a football pitch. -- 08:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Measurement Quota

I suggest that 35 articles be allocated from the Mathematics section to the Measurement section. --V3n0M93 (talk) 22:54, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Measurements is already full of redundant entries. Look at some actual articles for "Kilowatt", "Megawatt" and "Gigawatt". There are really just one or two sentences long explaining it just a multiple of "Watt". --MarsRover 19:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
So, I assume it is not an issue to remove the "redundant" entries. I have made a proposal in the list, bringing back the number from 83 to 67.--Joopwiki (talk) 19:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
The list is in so much need of improvement, so I don't think it's neccesary to make proposals. Just be bold and do the changes you think are improvements, and start a discussion if they are reverted. Boivie (talk) 19:51, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Done.--Joopwiki (talk) 18:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Music section is messed up

Even with the 150 musicians, "Rob Halford" doesn't really need to be there. The whole section is skewed toward heavy metal. 20% of all music is not rock or metal. Need to break it up into musical genres, then pick the better. We don't need Queen and all the members in Queen. Pink Floyd and the people in that band, too. I'll try to fix this up when I have some time. -MarsRover 20:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

To improve the list as you said, I replaced Halford with Dufay; also Renaissance music should be represented.--Nickanc (talk) 20:06, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I think we should remove the following people:
  • John Barry (relatively minor movie composer; we already have several)
  • Ritchie Blackmore (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Joe Cocker (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Phil Collins (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Alice Cooper (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Adolph Deutsch (relatively minor movie composer; we already have several)
  • Bruce Dickinson (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Ronnie James Dio (member of Black Sabbath; we have them)
  • Peter Gabriel (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Ian Gillan (cut bloat of rockers)
  • David Gilmour (member of Pink Floyd; we have them)
  • Steve Harris (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Ken Hensley (cut bloat of rockers)
  • James Hetfield (member of Metallica; we have them)
  • Glenn Hughes (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Tony Iommi (member of Black Sabbath; we have them)
  • Alan Jackson (we don't need him)
  • Mick Jagger (member of the Rolling Stones; we have them)
  • Jon Lord (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Brian May (member of Queen; we have them)
  • Freddy Mercury (member of Queen; we have them)
  • Barbara Mandrell (cut bloat of country)
  • Ronnie Milsap (cut bloat of country)
  • Gary Moore (cut bloat of rockers)
  • Ozzy Osbourne (member of Black Sabbath; we have them)
  • Jimmy Page (member of Led Zeppelin; we have them)
  • Alan Parsons (we have the Beatles and Pink Floyd)
  • Robert Plant (member of Led Zeppelin; we have them)
  • Keith Richards (member of the Rolling Stones; we have them)
  • Linda Ronstadt (not high-profile enough for this list)
  • Stevie Ray Vaughan (not high-profile enough for this list)
  • Roger Waters (member of Pink Floyd; we have them)
  • Angus Young (member of AC/DC; we have them)
And add the following people, to correct certain omissions:
  • Guillaume de Machaut (Medieval/Renaissance)
  • Josquin des Prez (Medieval/Renaissance)
  • Aaron Copland (American classical composer)
  • Stephen Foster (19th c. American popular composer)
  • Sergei Rachmaninoff (Russian/Soviet composer)
  • Celia Cruz (latin music)
  • João Gilberto (latin music)

You may notice that nearly all being removed are American or British rock or country singers (I think I counted six or seven of the band Deep Purple alone). If we feel we don't have enough musicians after these cuts, I'd be open to suggestions Purplebackpack89 03:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, those are good removals. You did remove more than you added. Maybe we should be beef actual musical works which only total 10. --MarsRover 07:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

--Sunpriat (talk) 04:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Seems like good changes. Boivie (talk) 06:06, 26 September 2013 (UTC)