Talk:Tech/News/2023/48
Add topicReiniciar[edit]
Reiniciar equipo sin cuentas— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luisalberto5432 (talk) 22:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Luisalberto5432: The page mw:Help:Reset_password/es may help. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Browsers not supporting async/await[edit]
@Jdforrester (WMF): Which are the browsers that don’t support async/await? Looking at the browser compatibility table for async, browser compatibility table for await and our startup script, I couldn’t find any versions of supported browsers that would load JavaScript but not support async/await. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 19:19, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Tacsipacsi: It's likely that there are some that have managed to pass until now but will have oddities like this. That's what we've found each time a new JS support item was added in the past. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Jdforrester (WMF): But those aren’t supported browsers, are they? Also, the “be used appropriately” isn’t clear: either I use it or I don’t. If I use it, I’ll cause syntax error in those browsers, making the gadget totally unusable. If I don’t use it, then I don’t use it, so I didn’t win anything. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed, so if you're going to use it in a gadget or a script you expect others to use, you should probably be aware of the risks of it breaking for some users, and potentially wrap things in an outer try/catch wrapper gadget that handles the failure, or wait a few months for MediaWiki to raise its requirement so that you can depend on it working safely. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- A try/catch won’t help: using
asyncorawaitin a browser that doesn’t support it is a syntax error, while try/catch handles semantic errors. In case of a syntax error, the control never reaches thetrykeyword. So the only possibility that left is not using this feature. It’s okay (we’ve been stuck with ES5 for quite some time now, a few more months doesn’t really matter), but “here is a new feature, but you shouldn’t use it for now” is probably not worth a Tech News entry. 😉 —Tacsipacsi (talk) 13:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- A try/catch won’t help: using
- Indeed, so if you're going to use it in a gadget or a script you expect others to use, you should probably be aware of the risks of it breaking for some users, and potentially wrap things in an outer try/catch wrapper gadget that handles the failure, or wait a few months for MediaWiki to raise its requirement so that you can depend on it working safely. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Jdforrester (WMF): But those aren’t supported browsers, are they? Also, the “be used appropriately” isn’t clear: either I use it or I don’t. If I use it, I’ll cause syntax error in those browsers, making the gadget totally unusable. If I don’t use it, then I don’t use it, so I didn’t win anything. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)