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Hello Quiddity, how are you going? I just found about the Abstract Wikipedia/Wikifunctions and since I have been working in the Portuguese and English Wikipedias as a translator, I have some questions:

1. Since the final goal of the project is to create a kind of baseline for all the Wikis, how the project will choose which version of each article (in case where there are several translations) to use as a baseline? The ones acknowledged as a "good article"? Or the longest?

2. The article Santos Dumont is acknowledged as an featured article in the Wikipedia and is the only language where this specific biography is acknowledged. Supposing that the Portuguese language users will want to use it as a base line for all the Wikis (since it is well developed, referenced and so on), how it should look? The Portuguese language users would need to "translate" it to Abstract Wikipedia and always update it or the Abstract could "drink" from an specific version and be automatically updated?

3. How the project could affect the Incubator? In theory it could "build" new Wikipedias, no? I was wondering if it could help minorities and indigenous languages to develop their literature.

4. It may be just an tangent: it could help tools like Wikisource or Wikiquote? An "Abstract Wikisource" could help, at least, to make the most important works from each language to be available on all languages?

I think that is is all. I care a lot about the Wikipedia and always try to let specific articles always updated in Portuguese and English, but sometimes it is just an impossible long work, like with CPI da COVID-19/COVID-19 CPI. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@Erick Soares3 Hallo! You ask some good questions here. I will respond to 2 now, and the rest next week.

1. Overall, those sorts of details will need extensive community discussion in the future. There have not been any deep discussions yet, about how the social-processes of deciding on what content to include, could or should work. Most of the people that are working on and/or interested in these 2 projects are focusing on Wikifunctions for now, as that is a necessary tool for any of this to work, and once it exists and has some content, then a lot of the possibilities will become more understandable to non-technical folks.

Personally, I imagine/hope we will have a multilingual community, who will bring multiple-perspectives and multilingual references to every entry. I'm also imagining that for the first few years, Abstract Wikipedia content will (probably?!) be very simple and brief. [however, I easily might be wrong and perhaps some Abstract topics will rapidly become very detailed!?].

I.e. I often think of Reasonator as being a great example of a simple predecessor. It can create a few sentences, in a few languages, about some specific topics. The gap between Reasonator-level complexity, and a Ptwiki Featured Article's complexity, is very very big! [I wrote more about Reasonator elsewhere, and I will copy an excerpt here, but I'll replace the examples with Santos Dumont. :) ]:

• There's also Reasonator (e.g.1 en, e.g.2 fr); However those don't exist for many languages, nor most statements (e.g.3 vi, e.g. pt). In the backend, those short descriptions are actually coming from the AutoDesc tool. (e.g.4). That AutoDesc system currently has 27 translatable word-elements, and can only handle very simple sentences for cases where each word can be separately replaced with a translated word (and the word order tweaked per-language). The most important difference to both ArticlePlaceholder and Reasonator - but also to projects such as LsjBot or Rambot - is that we want to allow the community to take more ownership of the way and the scope of information being rendered into the individual languages.

The other precursor project which attempts to fill the gaps in a simple way is mw:Extension:ArticlePlaceholder (you can see an example at Welsh Wikipedia).

2. I think the details above will answer some of this question. In case it isn't clear, Abstract Wikipedia content will not 'over-ride' or 'replace' any existing local content. The core goal is to help fill in the gaps, where nothing has been written about a topic in that language. Some of the technical notes for how this might work, are at Abstract Wikipedia/Components, but nothing has been decided or coded for any of that, yet.

I'll reply more, next week. Cheers, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Quiddity! I understand that the project isn't supposed to override anything, but what about in the cases (still using Santos Dumont as an example) where the articles are so weak that they would have been scrapped in any big project? Just compare the Portuguese version with Mirandese (two non referenced lines without update since 2013), Latin and maybe Esperanto (and probably more). The project could in some way "override" the original in these cases to, at least, add some small paragraphs and references in the same time that it helps the Wikis where nothing have been written at all? I'm using Santos Dumont biography as an example, but I'm certain that there are thousands of articles across all the projects in this same situation ("really dry stubs").

As a suggestion, I'd like to suggest this article to be experimented in the project. Is far less complex than Santos Dumont bio and is relevant for the Wikis in African languages. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@Erick Soares3: Ah, I understand more clearly now. I believe a few of the sections in Abstract Wikipedia/Components answer this question (specifically sections 1.2, 1.3, and 1.5). I'm particularly hopeful about the possibilities in 1.5 regarding "Later this will allow to select named sections from the Content", i.e. the idea of being able to show mostly local content, but with specific sections added from the Abstract content. So yes, communities should be able to manually replace or add to the local content, in a few different ways. [But I'll emphasize that no code has been written, and it still needs research and discussion into what is technically feasible and what is needed/wanted.]

Re: example articles - I generally recommend that Foundation's Product teams use very neutral and universal-interest articles for examples (e.g. in screenshots, documentation, announcements, etc), such as "Moon" and "Jupiter", partially to avoid distractions/disputes about article content (when we wanted the viewer to focus on the UI designs!), and partially because those topics exist at the largest number of Wikipedias so are the best for making comparisons (or taking screenshots). That's why we're using Jupiter in Abstract Wikipedia/Examples/Jupiter.

Re: 3. I'm not sure how that will work out. Ideally, we want to encourage a local community of participants in each new language edition of a project, so having all of the Incubator content created via work on Abstract Wikipedia (incl Wikifunctions and Wikidata items and lexemes), would not solve that. It could certainly help a lot, in a few different ways, to expand what content is available to readers in that language; but a (healthily growing) group of people who are dedicated to their local language Wikipedia will always be necessary.

Re: 4. There was a brief discussion about that in the second half of Talk:Abstract Wikipedia/Plan#Non-Wikipedia Content (briefly: "As far as I understand it, the abstract content system should work for any objective content, but probably not be suitable for sentences where nuance and some "poetic word choices" are required such as in Wikiquote or Wikisource contents"). But that's just my perspective. (Sidenote: This topic also reminds me of the long-running debate, and eventual closure (proposal), of the Simple Wikiquote.)

I hope those answers help! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!! Erick Soares3 (talk) 23:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

@Erick Soares3: Sorry to barge in. I agree with everything that Quiddity says, but I also want to stress one point: you asks whether we are going to use a specific language Wikipedia's article as the source for Abstract Wikipedia. The answer is no, not automatically. Changes to a local article will not be recognized automatically and propagated to Abstract Wikipedia. The content in Abstract Wikipedia is written (technically) independently of any of the Wikipedias that have an article on it (obvious, a contributor may choose to use a specific language editions as their source, but that's a community process). In this sense, it is adding one more language edition we need to take care of. But then each local Wikipedia can use this common baseline as its source. But Abstract Wikipedia needs to be maintained manually (or partially in tandem with Wikidata).

Just as with Wikidata: a change in the local Wikipedia has no effect on Wikidata (unless done through the Wikidata bridge). But a change in Wikidata can effect the Wikipedias that choose to use Wikidata. --DVrandecic (WMF) (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Removing embarrassing disclaimer

Hello!

Browsing WRC for the first time in forever: it's framed now as resources for the whole wikimedia movement; even though I remember very first instance in '16 or '17 was largely focused on WMF resources. But it has a weirdly divisive vibe we should fix.

The idea of attaching logos to each card to indicate who maintains the resource is good; but then there should be logos for WMF, Wikitech, and other high-level maintenance groups.

The disclaimer is an embarrassment, should lose the second para (I'm not sure it's appropriate to suggest any of these pages are officially maintained, considering), and should not be linked to from any particular logo; let's fix it. I can't figure out how to add / update logos, however...

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Thanks for the note! I've removed some of the sentences, for now. I'm not certain what the long-term plans are for this set of pages, but I know the Movement Communications team is thinking about potential changes to resources like this which need more attention. Therefore I won't attempt to dig deeper, for now. HTH! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:57, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Patroller-rights?

Hi! I'm regularly translating TechNews to norwegian (nb) and could make use of patroller-rights on metawiki to take care of vandalism. Do I need to ask somewhere or are you able to hand them to me? -- Wkee4ager (👨🏼‍💻💬) 10:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wkee4ager Hi! For that kind of thing, the place to ask is at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat. (Found via the mention at the bottom of this section: Meta:Requests for adminship#Other access). You can use the searchbox near the top of that 1st page to find previous examples, which might help. Cheers, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:42, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Update distribution list request

Hi, myself CX Zoom, an administrator on Pali Wikipedia. I recently moved pi:Project:Community Portal to pi:Project:Noticeboard. That page should receive evry message, except Bots-related ones which should go to pi:Project:Noticeboard/Bots instead. Can you please review my recent ontributions, and do the needful changes, if necessary? Thanks! —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 07:19, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @CX Zoom. The changes you made look good.

I see that this distribution list has also recently been used for messages there, and needs to be updated: Movement Strategy and Governance/Delivery/Wikipedia.

You may also want to add:

• Tech News delivery, via Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors
• Any of the others, in the top-section at Global message delivery/Targets#Active global newsletters

Hope that helps. --Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Done, as you suggested. Thanks a lot. —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 23:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for the settings fix

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for this. I had missed your comment in the thread and only now noticed that the settings text has been changed. I really thought it could be a problem, so I'm glad it was fixed! kyykaarme (talk) 09:53, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the followup! It's appreciated. :-) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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I wonder if you have permission to edit on wmf:? I would like to ask you to help me translate this resolution page into Vietnamese. Thanks! Tryvix1509^Discussion 06:49, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response here. I'll just add (for the record) that I had asked internally about this, and replied to your (same) question over at wmf:Wikimedia talk:Babel#Resolution:Licensing policy with a few more details. Cheers, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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Source languages

Just want to bounce an idea off to you before maybe taking it to project talk.

I’m wondering, if we modified the translation system so that some paragraphs need not be in English (e.g., paragraphs 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 in zh-tw, paragraphs 10, 12 in zh-cn, the rest in English [just making these numbers up]; or all paragraphs in French). Or modded it so that some paragraphs can have a flag set so that the system knows English is actually a translation (possibly a mistranslation) and knows how to fetch the real source text in case the translator can make use of it. Would that be a big change, or would that be a CWS-sized change?

I’m wondering because I just did a translation to Canadian English and it was not quite the “just change some spellings” pseudo-translation because after a while I realized why some parts sounded odd was French was the real source language. (Some other translators clearly also figured this out, seeing how, for example, zh handled one heading.) A few months ago I did one where half of the page was originally in Chinese (mostly zh-tw, a couple of paragraphs in zh-cn; that one I saw it just at the right time, before the Chinese parts became English “source” and all traces of those English paragraphs being translations erased).

What do you think? Al12si (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@Al12si Hiyo. Hmmm. I'm not quite understanding the question/context. I'll ramble a bit, in case that helps you form the followup question elsewhere. :)

Looking at your recent-contributions, I believe you are asking about something related to ContribuLing 2023. (links/examples almost always help!)

If I understand correctly, you've deduced that ContribuLing 2023/fr was essentially the source text, but the original author setup the page to use their manually-created English-translation as the page-translation 'source' (and then copy&pasted the original as the /fr 'translation').

(Sidenote: I should mention, in case you or other talkpage readers are unfamiliar, that it's possible to use any language as the main page-translation source. E.g. Wikimédia France uses French as the basis for all translations.)

Again, if I understand correctly (the part I'm very unsure of), you're asking if it's possible to have a mixture of source-languages? Or, possibly you're asking about using one translation as the basis for another translation (directly within the interface), but only for specific 'chunks'?

Overall, I'm not a dev, and cannot even begin to speculate about how technically-complex any change like those would be. I suspect it's far larger than a Wishlist proposal, but writing it up as a proposal may help you structure the question the most clearly. Alternatively, you could ask at mw:Extension talk:Translate.

I hope that helps! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@Quiddity (WMF) – Yes, your guess is correct, and my other example was Wikimedia Taiwan/The Chinese Wikimedia Open Meeting on the 2021 Foundation Official Action/Documentation. In the latter case the system claims that /zh “is a translation”, which of course is a false and misleading statement; the truth is 50% of the English page is a translation, and for the other 50% the Chinese page is a translation.

For ContribuLing, I’m not saying French is “essentially” the source language; I’m saying it is the true source language and the way the system is designed sometimes true source languages are buried in “translation” pages. (You read both the English and the French and it’s clear English isn’t the source; it’s translated from the French.) Given the nature of the conference, it’s really sad to see how, for example, ja has “translated” the first heading — or rather not translated it, since the English makes no sense and the Japanese translator clearly could not figure out what it was supposed to mean. — Al12si (talk) 00:18, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Yup, that's what I meant by 'essentially', sorry for the unclear wording! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Wrong language in tech news

Hello I noticed that technews is posting in kannada (kn) language on https://tcy.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ:ಚಾವಡಿ/ತಾಂತ್ರಿಕ_ಸುದ್ದಿಲು&curid=6742&diff=152385&oldid=152212 , it should post in Tulu (tcy) language. Noted no one is translating that language in tech news,I was wondering why it happening in case this would happen to other newsletter also ~aanzx ^✉ _© 05:21, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @~aanzx. This is due to the "fallback language" system.

(Background: You probably already know about it, but just in case: MediaWiki software has a feature that shows alternative-language messages, in places where the messages have not yet been translated into the preferred (wiki or user-preference) language, instead of just defaulting to English. A couple of years ago, the MassMessage extension was enhanced to also be able to use this feature (phab:T165128).)

In this case, I see in the settings file that Kannada is configured as the fallback language for Tulu. So, yes, it would happen for any other MassMessage, or any part of the User Interface, that has been translated into Kannada but not into Tulu. The intent is that it is more helpful to the majority of users, than English would be. I am not sure how fallback language decisions are originally determined.

If you have any further questions about this part of the software, I'd suggest asking the language engineering team.

I hope that information helps! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for info and links, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165128#6506363 made sense how it happened, I got confused when when last week's was in English language and this week was in kannada language. Now that I remember last week tech news was sent early before I translated newsletter. ~aanzx ^✉ _© 08:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #108 is out

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue we announce a new paper about Natural Language Generation by Aarne Ranta, member of the Abstract Wikipedia NLG Special Interest Group and professor at the University of Gothenburg, Sweden. The paper is also accessible as a pre-print here.

Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on April 3, 2023 at 17:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

Enjoy the reading!

-- User:Sannita (WMF) 10:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Since you froze Tech News, I caught an issue

You'll want to handle this adjustment as appropriate. The issue of course is that that message itself would disable reply links on not archived pages after it's turned on, like almost every user page likely to get that, and probably a fair few centralized talk pages too. @Quiddity for good measure. Izno (talk) 01:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

@Izno D'oh/Yikes! Thanks for catching that. Could've been very messy, and very stressful for me! It's been a... long week.

Luckily, it's within a tvar, so we can update it without invalidating the existing translations, which Ameisenigel has already done. (In case you're curious and unfamiliar, here's a screenshot of part of the interface for translation admins.)

Thanks again! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #109 is out

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue: a reflection about implementation of functions, a reflection on Abstract Wikipedia from Prof. Maria Keet, and a reminder about an in-person talk about Abstract Wikipedia in Sweden.

Also, we remind you that the next Natural Language Generation special interest group public meeting will be held on April 25, 2023 at 16:30 UTC on Jitsi (link to the meeting). Special guest of the meeting will be Oleg Parashchenko, who will share his experience and thoughts about implementing a multilingual NLG system.

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) 09:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #110 is out

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue: Wikimedia Endowment finances development of the project, and the team has published its manifesto, Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) and communications principles.

Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on May 8, 2023 at 17:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 09:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #111 is out

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue: a new full stack software engineer joins the development team, and a presentation of a paper co-authored by Denny about the history of Wikidata.

Enjoy the reading! -- Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletters #112 and #113 are out

There are new updates for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions! Please, come and read them!

On May 17, 2023, we thanked Julia for her work and we wished her well for her new work with the Trust & Safety team.

On May 25, 2023, we presented our new viewing and editing experience for Wikifunctions.

Want to catch-up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Enjoy the reading! -- Sannita (WMF) (talk) 09:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)