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The use of Wikipedia by doctors for their information needs[edit]

This is a proposal for a research project to study the relationship between Wikipedia and the information needs of doctors. The community's knowledge and feedback is more than appreciated! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richardpullicino (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2014

Memberships[edit]

The board has been discussing holding our first annual general meeting soon. James has just invited the 300 most active medical editors across all language Wikipedias to join. I've proposed sending an invitation to the talk page of all medicine projects across all languages.

Proposed invitation:

Hi! I'm writing to invite people with an interest in medicine and health to join Wiki Project Med Foundation, a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. There are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate with you. If you'd like to join us, please complete this form, and if you have any questions or comments, please join the conversation on our talk page. --Anthonyhcole along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation

--Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Looks good to me Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Membership application[edit]

Looking at the membership application[1]

  • Should we make the COI box optional?
  • And should we reword it as "Do you have any conflicts of interest? If no simple put "no"
  • And for sex we should have a "rather not say" box
  • And we should have a link to a tool that will help people determine how old their account is and how many edits they have made. I am happy if they are not medical edits

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:28, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

  • I'd feel more comfortable if members declared any glaring conflicts of interest.
  • The present wording is "Do you have a commitment or loyalty that conflicts significantly with our mission, such as receiving payment to positively represent a therapy." I prefer the existing language, because it spells out what we mean by COI. I'd like it to give them a tick box for "No", and a tick box for "Yes" followed by a paragraph box where they can explain their COI. But Google docs seems to offer either tick boxes or paragraph responses - not both.
  • Agree "rather not say" sex should be an option.
  • James, would you like the tool to be in the Google form or in the responses spreadsheet?
--Anthonyhcole (talk) 05:04, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
I've added "I'd rather not say" to the sex question. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:22, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I think Google form is good. The output is a spreadsheet no? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:55, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Should we post the criteria somewhere?[edit]

Our by-laws presently say
Membership will be open to all persons over the age of twelve (12) years and who support the mission of the Corporation. The members and the Board of Directors of the Corporation by their majority vote may from time to time establish such other criteria for membership, including a schedule of dues, as they deem appropriate.
The criteria for membership are basically embodied in the above-linked Google form. Perhaps once we've finished this discussion, we should summarise the criteria on the main page under "Membership"? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Agree Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:57, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Google Docs and security[edit]

I've seen serious criticism elsewhere of people using Google to host confidential information. That is probably a valid concern. Are there alternative, more secure methods of managing memberships? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 05:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes people who have access can easily duplicate all information. I think we should simply try to collect as little information as possible. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:57, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Privacy of membership list[edit]

The membership application currently states:

Other private information (real names, full addresses if optionally given, email addresses, contact numbers) will be collected and stored by the Membership Secretary. This information will never be shared with an outside organization or with non-Board members, without explicit permission from the member concerned, and will only be shared with other members of the WPMEDF Board if necessary for WPMEDF communications that advance our ongoing projects and mission.

New York non-profits are subject to some fairly inflexible provisions regarding members' right to inspect the membership list; see e.g. NPC §621:

(a) Except as otherwise provided herein, every corporation shall keep [...] a list or record containing the names and addresses of all members [...]

(b) Any person who shall have been a member of record of a corporation for at least six months immediately preceding his demand [...] upon at least five days written demand shall have the right to examine in person or by agent or attorney, during usual business hours, its [...] list or record of members and to make extracts therefrom.

I'm not sure if this provision can be tailored out in your bylaws (there's nothing explicit to that effect in §621, but perhaps New York law allows for such in general), but I would suggest giving some thought to how you might deal with these requirements in practice. Kirill Lokshin (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Kirill. We had a moment in Wikimedia Australia, where someone was standing on his right to inspect the membership list (with home addresses). When he realised he'd actually have to travel to the office and look at the physical book (i.e., the staff wouldn't post or email him a copy), I think he lost interest. Still, we need to change the above advice. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 03:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I've changed the preamble to read:
Members' Wikimedia usernames and country of residence will be public. Other information (real name, full address, email address, contact number, sex, age, conflict of interest, etc.) will be collected and stored by the Membership Secretary.

Per New York Not-For-Profit Corporation Law § 621, the list of current members' real names and addresses (only) may be viewed at our New York office by anyone (or their agent or attorney) who has been a member for at least six months immediately preceding their request to view. Your Wikimedia user name will not be revealed; neither will any other information - just name and address. If we receive such a request, we will email all members five days before viewing occurs, so they may resign from the foundation and have their name and address removed from the viewed list.

Kirill, do you know of a software package for managing memberships? --Anthonyhcole (talk) 04:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
I like that wording Anthony. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
@Anthonyhcole: I'm not aware of any software that's specifically intended for membership management, but I think just about any CRM package can be used for that purpose. At WMDC, for example, we use the contact management features in Podio. Kirill Lokshin (talk) 11:58, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016 in Italy[edit]

I have been asked what and from whom people want to hear talk at Wikimania?Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:49, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Am working to develop a program here Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:53, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Who is attending?[edit]

Med topics you want to hear about?[edit]

  • I am currently running this pilot project under an IEG grant. I am very interested in attending the Wiki project Med sessions in Milan and interacting with the Wikimedia medical community: the next step for Wikitherapy could be promoting the concept to hospitals (i.e. not only mental health institutions) and getting doctors and/or patients involved. I have connections in Greece that would be willing to embrace the idea. If you would like me to make a brief presentation I would be happy to do so! See also the poster I have submitted here. Thanks, looking forward to seeing you at Wikimania 2016!--Saintfevrier (talk) 11:36, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Great have added you here at 11:30am [2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Who you want to hear give an overview of our work?[edit]

Poster[edit]

Have put together our poster here Please feel free to edit further. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Update to medical up[edit]

Our offline medical app was update to include anatomy articles here Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

We now have medical ZIMs for all the official languages of India in which we have medical content here Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

en:Healthcare Information for All (HIFA)[edit]

Hey All We are one of the supporting organizations of Health Information For All as per [3] I have renewed our support again this year with a 50pound donation. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on my Individual Engagement Grant talk page about my proposal for Guided Checklist for Health Topic Experts[edit]

Hello everyone,

I created a new Individual Engagement grant to try and fix a problem. Grants:IdeaLab/Effective Engagement with Health Topic Experts using Guided Checklists

From my work with Cochrane as a Wikipedian in Residence and my observations of other attempts to engage health topic experts in editing, I've come to the conclusion that the quality of the contributions of health topic experts does not match their level of expertise and effort the we as Wikipedians put into training new medical editors. So, I decided to create a new project to develop a Guided Checklist that would assist a health topic expert in assessing the quality of a health articles on Wikipedia, and then guide their contributions toward making edits to correct the lack of quality.

My individual engagement grant would involve interviewing health topic experts and active medical editors, as well as a community consultation on Wikipedia English WikiProject Med. Please add yourself as a volunteer if you would like to participate. Or leave suggestions on the talk page. Or endorse if you support the idea. Sydney Poore/FloNight (talk) 00:00, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2016/Needs[edit]

Hello there! We are going to have the fifth annual Wikimedia CEE Meeting in Armenia. In order to prepare the programme, we need your input about some questions and needs you (as an affiliate or community) have. You can also share something working (or not) for you. Could you please add the info to the page? Thank you! --Lord Bumbury (talk) 13:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

P.S. I shall send this request via email as well --Lord Bumbury (talk) 13:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
User:Лорд Бъмбъри if you get any medicine specific feedback let us know. We would be happy to collaborate. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:18, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Medical pre-conference on Jun 22nd 2016 at Wikimania[edit]

Can people please indicate if they are planning to attend here Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Date of Med talks at Wikimania moved[edit]

The medical day at Wikimania has moved from Jun 22nd to Jun 23rd.[4] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:26, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add the translate tag in first section[edit]

Hi, I am translating to japanese language. In Wiki Project Med#Mission, First sentence (T:5 and T:6) only tagged, this part only can translating. There is no problem in the other sections.

I think maybe translate tag is nothing in the other part. So I read the following:mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation example#Step 4: Making changes. If manually I must be careful. But, I do not know well.

Please add the translate tag in the first section. --タバコはマーダー (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

User:タバコはマーダー I am horrible with these tags aswell. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:56, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
James, early reply, thank you. I wait someone. --タバコはマーダー (talk) 15:15, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Will see if I can find someone. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)