User talk:70.190.250.58

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Warning[edit]

Do not keep making edits like [1]. If you do, you will be blocked from this wiki too. --Rschen7754 03:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: Unblock[edit]

I'm not even an admin on enwiki or a steward, so I can't help. PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, can you please get someone to unblock me and explain to them of why I request this? -- 70.190.250.58 4:15pm, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

IP, your requests for this are disruptive, being so widely repeated. I've responded here and will assist you, I highly recommend you stop asking others, unless they invite it. PiRSquared is a local administrator, and he will have this page watchlisted, I assume. If you need local help, he may assist you. He is not, however, at this point, likely to spend the serious time it would take to make a steward request, given what you can do, yourself, that should be far easier. Slow down. --Abd (talk) 14:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Abd is right. I am willing to help. You should request the unblock at the correct venue (SRG) or wait a bit for it to end. In the meantime, feel free to ask me any questions. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Signature[edit]

Hi. When signing your contributions on talk pages, use the signing function found at the top of the edit window. You can also add four "tilde" ~~~~ and your IP-address, time and date will be added automatic. -- Tegel (Talk) 12:19, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Good that you use the signing function, but you can't use it for earlier edits. Only at the same time as you make the edit. If you use it for earlier edits the time and date will be wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tegel (talk)
If it's immediate, that's usually okay, particularly if it doesn't create a sequence conflict with other date-stamped edits. However, if it's more than a few minutes later, you can sign with ~~~ (three tildes), which will just link to your username (your IP, in this case, as a contributions link), and you can add the time and date from the page history, that's what I do. --Abd (talk)

Warning and advice[edit]

Please stop requesting users for assistance. One at a time. You may request assistance from me on my talk page here, User talk:Abd, if you haven't been locally blocked yet. I also have this talk page on my watchlist, and I'll see what you put here. Your requests for assistance, by being repeated so much, will be considered "spam." If you goal is to be unblocked, you are doing the exact opposite of what will cause that. Stop it! Immediately! I will give you advice as to how to be able to edit.

First of all, register an account. Accounts are actually more anonymous than IP. If you can't register an account from your IP, do it from some other access means. (I don't know exactly what happens with global blocks. You do not want to get your IP blocked on meta, because if it is, your options get more limited. If you have an account registered, provide an email address, which can be with an anonymous email service like gmail, if you like. You will then be able to email users (and they can email you). Don't email lots of users, but you may email *me.* If you email many users, your right to use email may be shut down.

More importantly, if you set your preferences that way, you will be notified if you have an edit to your talk page. You will see warnings and you can respond to them before they turn into blocks.

Basically, by making so much noise about being blocked, you are creating more cause to be blocked.

Work on one wiki at a time. Learn not only the policies and guidelines of that wiki, but also the customs. Among them, if it isn't policy, is do not edit the talk contributions of others, not even "helpfully," until and unless you really know what you are doing. That edit here was considered vandalism. I won't bother to say why, but it makes sense, once you understand how wikis work. Your creating many articles cross-wiki was called "spam," even though it was not ordinary commercial spam or spamming external links (as far as I've seen.). That can happen even though every edit is a good edit, or at least somewhat helpful or harmless. Basically, by doing so much, so quickly, in so many places, and being an IP editor, you won't be notified of warnings or advice.

While the wikis allow IP edits, IP editors really don't have as much freedom. If you have been blocked as a registered user, then by editing IP you are "evading the block," which is quite another reason to be blocked! Ask me if you are blocked as a registered user, there are steps you can take. If you follow my advice and register an account, and set up your options to allow email, you may ask me privately by email.

If you cannot follow this advice, then, I suggest, you are very unlikely to be unblocked, and instead, by continuing to ask for it, the block may be extended.

If you want to add articles with a photo, do it on one wiki. If it is accepted there, then you might do it on another, gradually extending your work. If you do this with a registered account, you'd have to make much more serious mistakes to be globally blocked. A global lock is required, and those are much more likely to be discussed. --Abd (talk) 13:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. However, I cannot even create an account or log into one already as my IP address is blocked on Wikipedia. I do not know what else to do to get unblocked. --70.190.250.58 14:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for responding here.
Access a wiki, such as this one, from another computer with different IP, and register the account. Follow the instructions above. You must learn to understand and follow instructions, or you will just continue to make blunders that will get you blocked. Once you have an account, let me know by email. (I don't think you are prevented from registering an account here, on meta. If you are, let me know that on this talk page. I'll be busy for a while today. One step at a time.)
Notice this: you ran into problems. You were blocked. You then did more things to get blocked again. Get this: you have no clue. Start from there, and maybe you will get some clue. Don't make your first priority "getting unblocked," because you will then just run into more trouble. Your first priority: getting a clue, you need to thoroughly understand why you were blocked. If you think it was stupid and arbitrary, you don't have a clue! I'm going to point out that you are not totally blocked. If you were, you would not be able to edit here. You are not banned, just blocked. You could be banned. As it is, do nothing, you are back to unblocked in six months. If that seems like a long time, I strongly suggested developing some patience! Do what I suggest, it will not be long. --Abd (talk) 14:21, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
[2] Good. But be careful. If there had been any response, removing your comment could be considered disruptive. However, since there had been no response, you are showing with that edit that you are listening and responding. So it's a good start. Now, be patient. Try what I've suggested. If it doesn't work, pay careful attention to all details so that what you tell me will be complete. If we need assistance, I can get it. --Abd (talk) 14:24, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I could not create an account here either. And no offense or anything, but 6 months is long for me. I strongly believe I was just trying to help out on wiki and trying not to spam. Don't I deserve a chance? --70.190.250.58 14:28, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

The correct venue to ask for a global unblock to be lifted is SRG. I would like to at least comment on a few edits you made. I'll focus on Corsican Wikipedia edits. I know they are deleted but I'll try to show you what you did wrong, so you can learn from your mistakes. co:Justin Bieber "Justin Drew Bieber (1994) hè statu un musicante americanu." <- should be canadianu or something like that. Also, from my knowledge of Italian and other Romance languages, I'd guess that "hè statu" is the past, "" alone might be the present. He still is a musician. co:Kim Jong-il "Kim Jong-il hè statu un omu puliticu austriacu poi diventatu alimanu fù u fundadore." This literally translates as "Kim Jong-il was an Austrian politician (man) [who] became German was the founder [of what??? u fundadore di ...?]". You obviously copied it from the Hitler article with some modifications. Sorry for not being completely fluent in Corsican. Same with the Kim Il-sung article. "Peter Hayden Dinklage hè un attrice americana." What you wrote means "Peter Hayden Dinklage is an American actress." It should be "hè un attore americanu" (IIRC). Just be more careful with that kind of stuff.
You do deserve a second chance in my opinion, but you need to be a little more patient (and thanks for not spamming talk pages anymore). I won't block you here, but if you disrupt more talk pages with the same request, someone else might. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
You are getting a third chance, but I've already told you what to do. You have still not followed all the instructions. If you don't understand something, ask specifically. Don't just ignore it and focus on an unanswerable question, i.e., what you deserve. Abd (talk) 16:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

{{unblock declined|2=[With respect to a global block. There is no local block] it is a temporary block, come back quietly when the block has finished, and quietly edit properly then there will be no issues. At this time, I do not see that an unblock is going to be productive, you would be wise to read and learn, not bang-on with edits. Too much heat in the issue.  — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 02:00, 1 February 2014 (UTC)}}

  • (edit conflict with above) I'm a little surprised you could not create an account here, because the global block is not effective here. But it makes sense that it might be set up that way (preventing account creation is normal elsewhere).
  • This is why I suggested you use a different internet access than what you have been using. The software cannot, then, possibly know that you are a blocked user. My goal at this point is to set up some kind of reliable communication. Do be aware that if you follow my advice and obtain an account, and if you use that account to do the like of what you were doing, that account would be locked, you would not be able to access it at all. So if you go this route, please follow instructions exactly. I told you to open the account and set up email. You will then be able to email me, and I can email you. Again, don't use email to request unblock, you could get your email access removed as well. Just send me a mail when you have the account, using the email interface here. If there are special circumstances that prevent you from using independent internet access, address that specifically, don't just say "I can't."
  • I cannot anticipate all the situations that might come up, and I may need to provide you with sensitive information that should not be published. If you consent, I will also inform PiRSquared of whatever I tell you. There are certain choices to be made, but there will need to be some communication first. We are not going to do anything that could harm the wikis.
  • Right now, your IP is globally blocked. That is not a ban. Unless you repeat the behavior, the behavior of this IP will quickly become a dead horse. Do be aware that if you create an account, and the account is banned, that could last indefinitely, not merely six months. You will need to learn caution. --Abd (talk) 02:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
  • About the unblock denial notice. Read it carefully. I'm going to give you advice, you have not actually asked for any advice, and that you haven't is part of why the community has no reason to think it would be safe to unblock you. The advice is that you explicitly say, "I accept, and I apologize for wasting time with the requests." When I say "accept," I mean that accept for now that you are blocked. The paradox is that when you accept what is so, new possibilities appear. That's how life works.
  • I've told you what you can do. Any questions? --Abd (talk) 02:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for tellin' me this. I had no idea what I was doin' wrong back then; but now, I know how to operate carefully. I will definitely do more research and remember that when I get back to editin'. I apologize for the previous blunders. --70.190.250.58 02:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

But still, is there anyway to get the stewards to unblock me earlier on February 29? --70.190.250.58 03:51, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

February 29, 2014 does not exist. --Rschen7754 03:56, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. What I meant to say was February 28, 2014. --70.190.250.58 04:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Is there anyway to get the stewards to unblock me earlier on February 28? --70.190.250.58 05:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Why do you need to be unblocked by February 28 exactly? PiRSquared17 (talk) 05:46, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

So I can get an unblock earlier and get enough time like that to be more careful with articles. --70.190.250.58 06:20, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

There might be a way, but it's not guaranteed. Do you need guarantees? If you ask for a guarantee, I can guarantee one thing, with high certainty: you won't get it.
I've suggested that you describe exactly what you did that led you to be blocked. You still have not done that. Instead, you just keep asking the same question, like an importunate child. Perhaps it worked once or twice. It's not going to work here.

Until you do that, showing that you understand what happened, you will not be unblocked until the block expires. I've suggested what you could do to handle the situation, as a step toward editing sooner, and you have ignored it. Read it all again. You have missed something. You may be making unwarranted assumptions. Come to Wikiversity. Register an account there, and I've told you how you can do it. On Wikiversity, if you disclose who you are privately to me, I will mentor you. I will not expect you to be perfect, not even close. But I will expect you to pay attention, and if you aren't capable of that, and you are not yet showing you are capable of that, it will all be useless. --Abd (talk) 10:44, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay. What I have done to be blocked was I started editing articles on Wikipedia, then tried to add new images and different language side articles in an attempt to help out. Then I was just suddenly blocked. --70.190.250.58 11:02, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for trying. No, that's not what you did. Try again! Read back over your entire edit history, and what others did on response. Do you know how to review your global contributions? --Abd (talk) 16:05, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I read my edit history just now. First, I edited Ryan Malgarini, The Catcher in the Rye, Susie Essman, Giovanni Ribisi, Aedin Mincks, Flavor Flav, Charles Durning, and Michael Jeter. Then I just got blocked from Wikipedia. --70.190.250.58 01:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Therefore, I know how what I had done to get myself blocked. But now that I have looked up words in other languages and started being more careful with stuff, is there any chance or possibility for me to be unblocked soon at the end of February? --70.190.250.58 08:34, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Having Google Translate does not mean that you can magically write in every language of the world. --Rschen7754 09:21, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I know, but from now on, if I get confused with something of some words in a different language, I will ask you guys. --70.190.250.58 09:46, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Since I have learned, I probably should be unblocked on February 28 now. --70.190.250.58 14:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

No, you haven't learned. Not even the smartest people in the world can write in 20 languages at the level required to write an encyclopedia. If they can't do it, then you can't either. --Rschen7754 18:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

But I am now being careful with stuff and looking stuff up. --70.190.250.58 01:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Like, for example, I looked up the Aedin Mincks article from the Corsu Wikipedia. It was good, correct, so I honestly think I should be unblocked by February 28, 2014. I swear, I believe I have learned now, at least some. --70.190.250.58 12:35, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello 70, here is a suggestion. What should the first sentence look like for an article about Kim Jong-il, please? Write the sentences here, on your own talkpage, so we can see how you do. You can use English, plus whatever other natural languages you would like to immediately being to contribute in. Wikipedia needs people to edit. But we also need the edits to be correct. If there are too many mistakes, it is too hard for other people to fix them all. Does this make sense? So please show us what kind of sentences you can write, about Kim Jong-il. 74.192.84.101 19:37, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, on os.wikipedia.org, I got Ким Чен Ир. Maybe the first sentence could be, "Ким Чен Ир (16 лютага 1941 - 17 снежні 2011, Пхеньян) — цæгаткорейаг политикон, паддзахадон, æфсадон æмæ партийы архайæг. Бæрзонддæр разамонæг, КАДР-ы партийы, армийы æмæ адæмы лидер,Корейаг адæмон армийы Бæрзонддæр Сæйрагкъамандыгæнæг. Ким Чен Иры æртыккаг фырт, йæ официалон бындар." Is this good for a start? --70.190.250.58 03:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on Ossetian or any Indo-Iranian language, but I'm relatively sure that "снежні" and "лютага" are Belarusian terms for months, not Ossetian. So to say December 17 of 2011, we can say "17 декабры 2011-æм азы" (or perhaps "17 декабры 2011", I never claimed to be fluent) in Ossetian. Similarly, 16 February is 16 февралы, not be:16 лютага. I honestly can't check the rest, but at least you got the term for North Korea correct (although obviously based on Kim Jong-un article). It may well be correct, but I cannot guarantee it. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, well, since I did good, may I be unblocked on February 28? --70.190.250.58 04:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not a steward, so I can't tell you for sure. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:26, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, well, you can probably just tell the stewards about this and see how well I do. --70.190.250.58 04:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I also got another one on the Aceh Wikipedia. If I wanted to create an article about Michael Jeter, I would put, "

Jeter (1992)

Michael Jeter (1952 − 2003) nakeuh sidroe aktor asay Amirika Carékat." --70.190.250.58 16:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Why exactly do you want to create one sentence (or two sentence) stubs on wikis in languages you hardly know? PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Because that is how the "Marcia Wallace" article is on that wiki and I can be careful and create this one just like the other one, adding more and helping out. --70.190.250.58 01:18, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Now do you trust me? --70.190.250.58 15:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

PiRSquared17, I promise to be extremely careful, much more than before. --70.190.250.58 12:01, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not a steward. PiRSquared17 (talk) 11:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

PiRSquared17, can you please ask the stewards if I may be unblocked since I proved to be good at editing now? --70.190.250.58 11:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello? Can you please? --70.190.250.58 09:22, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

For more proof that I am more careful, if I wanted to add an article about Ralph Waite on the Aceh Wikipedia, I would put this:

Ralph Waite (2012)

Ralph Waite (1928-2014) nakeuh sidroe aktor asay Amèrikan Utara. --70.190.250.58 13:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

So PiRSquared17, can you please get someone to unblock me on February 28? --70.190.250.58 07:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I asked stewards, but they didn't want to do it. You can request it yourself on SRG if you really want. Sorry. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, are there any stewards who are willing to unblock anyone who sincerely apologizes for their previous wrongdoing? Also, how do I request it on SRG? --70.190.250.58 19:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Let me explain the "Well, are there any stewards who are willing to unblock anyone who sincerely apologizes for their previous wrongdoing?" clearly to you: Rschen7754 blocked you for a reason and I am assuming it is spam (right?). You should clearly read up on spam and what is spam and listen to advice by others instead of whining about your block. The block will be lifted in a few months, in the meantime, start reading up on spam and what is spam to prevent from spamming ever again. No one will pay attention to your point of view, so no point in whining about it. I suggest you listen to advice by others and start doing something else in your time. I suggest you stop whining about your block, but instead understand your block carefully. I hope you listen. Don't worry, I ran into blocks about (my time as a Wikimedian) three times and one of them is infinitely. That's on Simple Wikipedia. But I'll be unbanned on July 11, 2014, and my ban started on July 11, 2013. You don't see me complaining about my block. Instead, I edit other wikis and understand my block their. Well, as for you, I suggest you just do something else instead of the wikis. --Goldenburg111 20:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
My block that I issued here has long expired; there is a global block affecting this IP. --Rschen7754 00:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

But Rschen, can't you forgive me and see that I am sincere when I say I am now more careful and promise not to spam? --70.190.250.58 01:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)