User talk:ESanders (WMF)

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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello, ESanders (WMF). Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:18, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey[edit]

Hi,

You’re getting this message because you participated in the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey and we want to make sure you don't miss it this year – or at least can make the conscious choice to ignore if it you want to. The 2015 survey decided what the Community Tech team should work on during 2016. It was also the focus of Wikimedia hackathons and work by other developers. You can see the status of wishes from the 2015 wishlist at 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Results.

The 2016 Community Wishlist Survey is now open for wishes. You can create proposals until November 20. You will be able to vote on which wishes you think are best or most important between November 28 and December 12. /Johan (WMF) (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Special:Diff/21167657[edit]

Hi Ed. I saw you removed this line from my global.js. I have a couple notes:

  1. What is the current method for enabling discussion tools globally? Is it on by default?
  2. When editing others' userspace pages, it is customary to ask the other person to do it rather than do it yourself, except in emergencies. This is the case especially when you do so using Foundation-granted permissions to do so. If doing so directly, it is generally considered necessary to give a notification. I understand that it may seem like an innocuous technical change to you, and it in fact may be, but it is useful to explain this, if only through a templated notice; after all, one's userspace is highly personal. In this volunteer project respecting these norms is the courteous thing to do.

Thank you for your work on the tool; I appreciate all you have done to improve our projects. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t) 08:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

In fact, it seems that discussion tools no longer load for me on this wiki, and I cannot see how to re-enable them. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t) 08:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@L235: On this wiki, the reply tool is enabled as a Beta Feature, under Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. Once you have enabled the Beta Feature, make sure the reply tool is enabled in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. The user script hack will enable the tool on wikis where it isn't a Beta Feature, or enabled by default. Thanks, ESanders (WMF) (talk) 12:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Ed, you did remove it from my global.js file, which applies on every WMF project – not just meta. Also, if it isn't an inconvenience, I'd appreciate an acknowledgement of my second note above and either (1) a commitment to ask (or at minimum leave notifications) when making similar changes in the future or (2) an invitation to further dialogue on the question. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t) 20:29, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@L235: You said that the tool no longer works on this wiki. For that you should use the Beta Feature. Has the tool stopped working on any wiki that doesn't have the Beta Feature? I would be very surprised if my change resulted in any change at your end because the line of code I removed should be a no-op since the wmf30 release. If that is the case I can look into it for you.
To explicitly answer (1) - the hack that is on your user page is the "correct" way to enable discussion tools globally (although it is just a temporary hack). No, discussion tools are not enabled by default on most wikis (except Hungarian, Czech & Arabic Wikipedias).
To address (2) - I try to use my judgement based on the complexity of the change, and the location of the code. In this particular case the two lines of code were ones I wrote myself and had been cloned to other pages. I however note and respect your objection and will ensure I notify you if I ever need to modify your user scripts in future.
To be clear: the edit should have resulted in no change to where you see the tool, it was purely cleaning up dead code. Regards, ESanders (WMF) (talk) 20:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)