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VisualEditor should use proper names for references
[edit]Hello Sänger. Regarding your VE proposal at the Community Wishlist Survey, I have a suggestion, and a comment. The suggestion is to modify the "More comments" line in the section at the top to add something like: "Related links at [[w:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Named references#See also|Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Named references]]".
The comment is about your use of the word proper in "proper names", which I see got you into a dust-up with MusikAnimal. Your English appears to be about en-3 or en-4, but here and there there may be language issues that are causing misunderstanding. Are you aware that "use proper names for references" is ambiguous in English? I am not quite sure if you meant here die richtigen Namen verwenden (richtige Name ⟶ "proper name", "appropriate name", "correct name"), or Eigennamen verwenden (Eigenname ⟶ "proper name", "proper noun". Also, ein schwerer Fehler ⟶ "a serious bug/mistake"; a "heavy bug" might be the Riesenkäfer, which weighs about 100 grams. Mfg, Mathglot (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps I should stick to German ;)
- A professor at my university some decades ago said: Bad English is the language of science. The minority of anglophone people have to live with people not using the proper words, they have to deal with it and have to adjust, not the majority of people have to learn better English. This here ain't an English venue, it's an international venue, were bad English is the Lingua Franca.
- I meant ordentliche Namen, for me that's translated with proper, decent, reasonable or such. Currently it's a bug created by somebody far detached from editing in real Wikimedia projects, this disgusting :0, who came up with this brain-fart? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 01:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Lol, I love your professor's comment. Iz wery much eezie bedd Inglish to unterstanden, no problemo. On the other hand, ambiguous English, no matter how well-spelled and in proper English syntax order, will get you in trouble, and I don't think your professor would disagree. Bad English is easily accommodated with no loss of meaning or comprehension, whereas ambiguous English is not, and can cause misunderstandings, as happened here.
- If what you meant was ordentliche Namen, to me as a Muttersprachler of English, saying "proper name" is misleading; I would use your suggested "reasonable name" instead, which is unambiguous. Imho, it's unlikely a native speaker would guess what you meant in this case; I certainly misunderstood it, and I suspect MusikAnimal interpreted it using one of the other meanings as well, which led to the back-and-forth you observed. A clear example of this confusion is here. Mathglot (talk) 02:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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