User talk:Ternarius

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This is to confirm that I am User:Law on Swedish Wikipedia, User:Ternarius on Commons, and User:Pinrut on English Wikipedia. / Ternarius 21:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

After the above text was written, I have changed my user name on Swedish Wikipedia to User:Ternarius (which is now my global user name). Pinrut still exists on English Wikipedia, but I have abandon it, and there too use Ternarius. / Ternarius (talk) 09:19, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Global renamer right

Pundit has closed your nomination for global renamer right as successful, and applied that right. Please subscribe to mail:global-renamers and send me an email so I can add you on that mailing list. You also might wish to check out the irc channel #wikimedia-rename. Good luck. Trijnstel_talk 15:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! / Ternarius (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

My email

Hello,

My email asked you about the renaming Ikkefast~svrename to Knubbsäl, which was a consequence, apparently, of a previous renaming you had reverted on the 8th of october because the desired username was injurious in swedish. Céréales Killer rejected the current renaming request because the situation was not very clear. Could you please help the user find his way in our procedures? Thank you! Litlok (talk) 13:58, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Litlok:

I don't really know how to help the user. As I wrote in connection with my rename revert, I reverted the renaming since the chosen username was very vulgar in Swedish – we (=the users on Wikipedia in Swedish, where the user mainly was active) simply didn't want that name to show up in the contribution lists. I know, and sympatise with, that multiple renames is something we avoid here on meta. In this case however, I personally think that the user should have been allowed to rename his/her name, since it was forcible renamed. I am very reluctant, however, to act against Céréales Killer's descision. The only other existing alternative for the user is, as I see it, to register a new username and abandon the old, something I think is a pity, since the user has behaved well on Wikipedia in Swedish (if you don't count choosing an offensive username bad behavior).

Best regards / Ternarius (talk) 14:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

No renaming between November 20 and November 27

Hi,

You’re getting this because you’re a steward or global renamer. The Community Tech team are working on cross-wiki watchlists. We need to add a couple of fields to the localuser table in centralauth database. In order to be able to do this, we’d need to run a script that will get in the way of renaming users. Our apologies – we realize this is getting in the way of your work.

We ask that you do not rename anyone between 00:00 November 20 (UTC) and 00:00 November 27 (UTC).

(UTC means that if you live in the Americas, it will be on the evening or afternoon of November 19 when the script starts running, and if you live in Oceania or eastern Asia, it can be closer midday on November 27 before we can be sure the script is no longer running.)

Phabricator task.

If there are any problems related to this, or you have any questions, please write me on my talk page. /Johan (WMF) (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:42, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I understand. / Ternarius (talk) 20:11, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Byte av användarnamn

Hej!

Jag vet inte riktigt hur jag ska gå tillväga för att byta användarnamn på Wikipedia men det stod något om att kontakta en "global renamer", något jag antar att du är. Jag skulle vara tacksom om du kan byta mitt användarnamn till EPIAC.

Tack på förhand.

Med vänlig hälsning AminC99 (talk) 23:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Hej, AminC99:

Rent formellt ansöker du om namnbyte antingen på Steward requests/Username changes eller, eftersom jag förstår att du talar svenska, på den svenska sidan, sv:Wikipedia:Byte av användarnamn. Nu har du emellertid kommit hit, så jag ska ta hand om din begäran här. Jag återkommer om resultatet.

Vänligen / Ternarius (talk) 05:24, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Hej, EPIAC:

Done AminC99 nu bytt till EPIAC.

Vänligen / Ternarius (talk) 05:33, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Transformation

Change my name to Puspa Revani.— The preceding unsigned comment was added by PusRev (talk) 23:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Normally request for username changes are filed on the Steward requests/Username changes page, but I have made an exception and changed your name. / Ternarius (talk) 21:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for everything you do for the community, and thanks for the username change I really appreciate it. Maxxnite (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, yourself, Maxxnite! It's always nice to recieve appreciation for what one does. / Ternarius (talk) 01:53, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

sv block

Discussion moved to User talk:Abecesel

Your feedback is requested

Hello Ternarius, We are conducting a poll of global renamers and stewards regarding some future toolings related to some rename requests. Your feedback is requested at the poll on VRT WIKI. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 00:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: It seems like I cannot log on to the VRT WIKI with the same password I use for other Wikimedia and Wikipedia sites and applications. (I recieve the error message "Incorrect username or password entered" when I try to log on.) Is there any special rules concerning this particular application? / Ternarius (talk) 03:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

thank you, we may follow up on the global renamers mailing list; it is a different account and it seems that not all renamers are provisioned there. — xaosflux ^Talk 10:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Apologies

(Dear) Ternarius Please accept my apologies because you have been dragged into the discussion of the Bindingsteuer. By no means have you done anything wrong, nor have I in any of my posts implied (or tried to) any wrongdoing on your side. Your renaming was a consequence of my request, which was a consequence of Wikipedia asking me to do so. Also, I have not been banned on the German Wikipedia, only banned from contributing to the article I started, which has been renamed and moved for further editing by other people.

It was not my intention that someone could feel being pestered, my only intention was to write an article about a relevant tax topic in Germany and present it also in English in a 1:1 translation (to avoid quality issues by having it translated by people with no knowledge of the topic)

Once again, let me express my deepest apologies.

ticket to see

Please see ticket:2024091310009325. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Dear Xaosflux: I cannot log in on Ticket, it seems as I don't have enough rights. I saw a comment with that meaning when I renamed a user - unfortunately a bit too late. Have I caused any problems? / Ternarius (talk) 15:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Just something seemed a bit off with the explanations from the requester on that rename you did. It's probably not worth reversing the rename over so I'll just close that ticket. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

OK, thank you. I'll try to be a bit more attentive in the future. / Ternarius (talk) 15:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Regarding something

Hello! I'm asking a question about editing your own pages: can i get my hypothetical page about myself permanently blacklisted because i made for example my own page about myself and im saying this because can anyone write about theimselfs and can it lead to a conflict of interest? Just wanted to understand how serious the consequences are if someone hypothetically tried it in good faith. Justsomerandomuser11 (talk) 12:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

@Justsomerandomuser11: Writing about yourself is considered problematic om most wikipedia versions, e.g. see en:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, but I am a global renamer, not a steward, and cannot tell you exactly how it's viewed on the various local wikis. You have better ask any administrator on your local wp version. / Ternarius (talk) 10:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

ticket to check

Hello, please see ticket:2025063010004882. Thank you, — xaosflux ^Talk 09:26, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

@xaosflux: Unfortunately I cannot log in to ticket, I seem not to have the proper rights. You cannot tell me what the problem is here? / Ternarius (talk) 09:46, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I sent you the info via email. Note, if you need to email me back, use Special:Email/Xaosflux. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

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recent renames by you

I came across this, I would suggest that, you should ask them to request on SGRU. So that it gets the attention by the experienced ones. thanks. Such renames are problematic and against the wikimedia terms of use and many other policies. thanks and regards QueerEcofeminist🌈 17:52, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist: Unfortunately, I have already performed the request, but I probably instead should have done as you recommended. I guess I was taken back a bit by the quite blatant homophobia in the attitude shown by the Norweigan sysop. I have seen in the Username Policy of the Norweigan Wikipedia (I understand Norweigan although I can't write it) that they don't accept usernames containing descriptions of sexual orientation, but I never thought they would go so far as actually block anyone due to that. The problem is obviously not just one sysop's opinions, it's rooted, imo, in the subculture of the entire Norweigan Wikipedia. I don't know were to rise this problem: Writing (in English) on the Norweigan Wikipedia seems pointless, considering their attitude towards LGBTQ issues; I think a more prudent way is to discuss it in a more global forum, I just don't know which. / Ternarius (talk) 18:38, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

@Ternarius, can you point out and share the actual links to the pages which mention this. ? we need to take this to larger community, they can not really have such policy in place and spread homophobia. QueerEcofeminist🌈 18:45, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

Accidently removed message from QueerEcofeminist:

[1], this is the discussion they had on the admin board. QueerEcofeminist🌈 18:51, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

As you may see below, I have since found and read the discussion. It is obvious that they don't understand how controversial their opinion is. Isn't there any place we can have a global discussion regarding their homophobia? / Ternarius (talk) 16:03, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist: In no:Hjelp:Logge_inn#Brukernavn (Help:Login#Username) there is a text (under the headline "Brukernavn"):

4. Det er videre ikke tillatt å ha brukernavn som viser til politisk ståsted, seksuell orientering eller lignende, eller som på en eller annen måte kan oppfattes som støtende (f.eks. gjennom bruk av banneord eller seksuelle begreper). [Furthermore, it is not allowed to have usernames that refer to political views, sexual orientation or the like, or that in any way can be perceived as offensive (e.g. through the use of swear words or sexual terms)].

Furthermore, in no:Wikipedia:Brukernavn som må sjekkes (Wikipedia:Usernames to check) the present issue (re the rename of Norgay7575) is discussed. The majority seems to agree that Norgay7575 is unacceptable (one contributer claimed "i nyere tid har det utviklet seg til å bli mer et skjellsord og jeg mener derfor at bør unngås i brukernavn" (In recent times, it [i.e. the word "gay"] has developed into more of a slur, and I therefore believe that should be avoided in usernames), a comment I strongly disbelive: Should Norway be one of the few countries where "gay" isn't commonly used? But OK, I'm not Norweigan, I'm not familiar with Norweigan semantics.

I hope this is to any help. / Ternarius (talk) 19:37, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

yes, we can open a global discussion on that as username by the virtue of being unified, automatically becomes a global issue. I will check and get back to you in a day.. as similar discussion happened during my rename and a contraversy erupted and resulted in desysoping and banning of a Ethiopian bureaucrat. Requests for comment/Global ban for Til Eulenspiegel QueerEcofeminist🌈 16:26, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

An interesting detail is that Norgay7575 was originally blocked as Norgay666. That time "666" was considered offensive. (See en:Number of the beast, a reference in the Book of Revelation in the Christian New Testament.) That is, according to Norweigan Wikipedia one can be blocked both if one offends hetero-normative and Christian beliefs. I consider that neither tolerant nor global. / Ternarius (talk) 17:13, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

I am not so sure this matter can be redused to homophobia. There could be a bias towards hetero-normative and Christian belifs as Ternarius suggest. But to discuss bias and NPOV on NO:WP is not an easy task as it often gets personal and nobody will admit to such a behavior. You Refer to an RFC. It will not be as blatant as that. As I see it this inability to diskuss matters i NO:WP is more linked to an authoritarian current wich have been stronger by the years. I have also tried to raise the discussion as an RFC, Requests for comment/Ideals and realities on the ground in Norwegian Wikipedia, but there is no willingness to diskuss matters. The local wikimmedia chapter is of no use. So it may or may not lead to anything to formulate another RFC. Andrez1 (talk) 18:27, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Yes, Andrez1, I realise calling an entire Wikipedia version "homphobic" can be contraproductive, and that it can be necessary to show some restraint when discussing such issues. But the facts remain: Nowiki forbid their users to use usernames that can be linked to sexual orientation, with the clear motivation that it is offensive. What do you mean we should call that, if "homophobic" is too strong? And yes, I share your opinion that it probably is meaningless to start a RFC on nowiki, due to what you call an authoritarian current. That is precicely why I don't want to discuss it on a single Wikipedia version, be it nowiki or anywhere else, but on some global arena (although I don't yet know which one). But sitting with our arms crossed doing nothing will not achieve anything at all. / Ternarius (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

In the discussion on the matter referenced abovethere there is a filter where a number of words, inkl "gay", triggers it. "Wikipedia:Brukernavn som må sjekkes/Ord, er "gay" oppført som "navn som må sjekkes". There was a discussion around it and some argued the word was to be understood pejoratively, others not. As i belive some have negatively meet(/delivered?) "Homo" and "Gay" in the schoolyard, other proud to be bout. There is no universal denotative meaning of those words. It has a lot to do with context, and there are neither a connotative uniform meaning. It requires closer readings, and the reading done in NO:WP (inkluding the list of bad words) with its perceived bias leads to the conlusion that Norgay is no good in Norway.

The whole idea that a list of bad words can and should be used to censor usernames may invite to misuse of power. To force norgay666 to change username (both on negative connotation to "gay" and "666") as if such a list is conclusive (where is 69 and 88); is absurd as the list of connotations to any given username is open for any reader. (My name can be read, in norwegian, as Andrezen. If you see Budda, kill him. Other norwegian users as <<https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruker:Erik_den_yngre Erik den Yngre>> may insist on a reading where <<https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Pontoppidan Erik Pontoppidan the younger>> gives a lead. There is even an old Erik Pontoppidan. The younger implies the older. Cultural understanding gives that "Gamle Erik" is an eufemism for the devil. Should names be changed?

I dont think so. But the task administrators undertake in censoring content, in these case based on a rule-based filter, have in the case of norgay666 failed out of lacking cultural understanding. If that bias is based on "hetero-normative and Christian beliefs" how to make anyone se their own failings and repent ;-) Andrez1 (talk) 22:02, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

This is the list of words fed to the filter: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Brukernavn_som_m%C3%A5_sjekkes/Ord Andrez1 (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Gay is also part of the badword-list. Badwords Andrez1 (talk) 17:18, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

User:QueerEcofeminist : There is also a discussion on the norwegian discussionpage of the user discussed here where your use of Queer is seen as no problem. It is not seen as offensive. On the other hand the rule used to force the changes on User:Norgay666 , the point 4 quoted above, and repeating -

4. Det er videre ikke tillatt å ha brukernavn som viser til politisk ståsted, seksuell orientering eller lignende, eller som på en eller annen måte kan oppfattes som støtende (f.eks. gjennom bruk av banneord eller seksuelle begreper). [Furthermore, it is not allowed to have usernames that refer to political views, sexual orientation or the like, or that in any way can be perceived as offensive (e.g. through the use of swear words or sexual terms)].

- will if applied on you make your name to be targeted, all of it. Queer - Eco - feminist. For what in that name is not about political views and sexual orientation?

There is no need that the words used "in any way can be perceived as offensive". For that to happen the wording would have been "and that" and not the present "or that" Andrez1 (talk) 21:23, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

Andrez1, I fail to see that that small change in wording can make much difference. Words like "gay" are still mentioned as unacceptable, in the same context as "offensive" names. Besides, if they aren't considered offensive, paragraph 4. then list usernames that refer to sexual orientation as unacceptable whithout any explanation why. Is that better? If an existing Indo-Nepaleese name like Norgay is considered unacceptable just because it contains the word "gay" I cannot understand that as anything but an instinctive fear of words descibing non-heterosexual activities, and what should I call that exept homophobic? / Ternarius (talk) 22:37, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

The rule, as it stands prohibit _any_ "political views, sexual orientation or the like". If applied as written it would target any mention of political view, including none, from the whole specter. It will also target any mentioning of having a sex or a gender, from the doxically blind heteronormative to far out on the LHBTQI+++ (=LGBTQI+++ in english) and what not to include. There is not any condition that the word or practices it describes are to be perceived as offensive for any taste.

The later part of the sentence - "or that in any way can be perceived as offensive (e.g. through the use of swear words or sexual terms)." - is to be read as a separate condition.

For the case at hand, Norgay, it is the later part of the sentence wich is applied, "Gay" is (by some) considered as a slur and a swear word.

"Gay", somewhat dated describes someone "light-hearted and carefree", it is also used as a slur synonyme for "Homo" in norwegian schoolyards. And there is a whole gay-movement proud to be "Gay".

If a jolly good fellow then describes himself as "gay" it will by the norwegian system be understood as either a slur or a flagging of sexual orientation. Norgay is read as a slur. Read as an offensive name/word. And hit by the later part of the "4." rule.

If it was to be read as a gay proud to be gay it could be stopped by the early part of the "4." rule

(and whatabout the case of Norgay Tenzing?)

The words in the filter also include "transe", a somewhat dated spelling of trans. The "T" of LHBTQ "trans" will be stopped by the first part of the rule, "transe" is of some reason deemed offensive and will be stopped by the second part of the sentence.

When it comes to User:QueerEcofeminist all parts of his name can be targeted by the first part of the "4." rule. Nobody need to take any offence, this can rightly be understood as 3 separate flagging of political and sexual nature. And stopped as a valid usernames.

I do not support your reading of this practice in NO:WP as "homophobic". It have been hold forward as a support tool against unwanted changes. As slur and vandalism. The words "transe" and "gay" have been added 2021/22 to the offensive username-list by users (/admins?) i belive in the best of intentions.

But the sum and consequences of that type of regulatory management I think are poorly thought out on the way here. And then it goes as it has now. Seeing everything that affects LGBTQI++ as homophobia does not contribute to any enlightened conversation, if you still believe that is the case, feel free to argue how homophobia is actually happening in this specific case. Andrez1 (talk) 01:30, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Andrez1, important part of the policy making, can you point me to the page or forum where all this username policy part was discussed and then finalized democratically as a community? Or decided by a single admin? Or User from nowiki? As that is something important for us, QueerEcofeminist🌈 02:42, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

and not to say but, username was blocked because of this policy and they were told to get renamed to be unblocked. So better be backed by community decision and not an individual who thought this was right. QueerEcofeminist🌈 02:45, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Andrez1, if someone is restricted from expressing themself as belonging to the LGBTQ community, I call that homophobia. But let us leave the semantics aside: Do you think it is right to hinder someone to describe themself as belonging to that community? Because that is what paragraph 4 does. And that is what we really, imo, should discuss. / Ternarius (talk) 06:06, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Ternarius, the rule no 4. restrict anyone from expressing a belonging to any political, sexual, (and i assume ideological, national, religious, other groups); whatever essentialistic identity anyone understand or flag themselves as. This broad scope can be perceived as homophobic from some groups perspective. I understand that. But as the scope is any identitarian expression, (but mostly used to target perceived offensive or perjoratory use (as in "nazi" and "gay"),) the question is if identitarian expression should be permitted in usernames.

As this no .4 rule probably have its roots back in 2007, in a time where Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy an woke sensitivity roamed; it must have seemed as a good idea to suppress any expression anyone could take offence at. I read the list of words to be checked in here in that context.

Limiting what can be expressed limit what can be discussed, any society will have some order, but as the index of censored expression grows, so grows the fear and sens of treading on eggshells. I belive NO:WP's problem is a culture where matters, editorial and organizational, can not be discussed. The mix of a woke sensitivity with administrative interventions may be well-intentioned, but here we are.

To your question: "Do you think it is right to hinder someone to describe themself as belonging to that community?"

I assume that is the gay community. I am not easily offended. And will answer as Travis Bicle in Taxi Driver(1976). I go to Harlem. I even go to Bronx.

I have no problem with that community expressing themselves. Andrez1 (talk) 13:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

No, I can not point to " where all this username policy part was discussed and then finalized democratically as a community?"

As of today a discussion on the matter in NO:WP:TINGET points to an hidden autocratic process with few persons involved back in 2007. here. quote: " Dagens regler virker i stor grad å ha blitt utformet av én bruker i 2007 uten noe som helst slags tegn til at det er basert på noe diskusjon rundt dette på andre fora." translated via google: "Today's rules appear to have been largely designed by one user in 2007 without any indication that they are based on any discussion about this on other forums." Andrez1 (talk) 11:58, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist Andrez1 (talk) 12:03, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

I am not saying that the measures done are intentionally homophobic; but when applied, they result in an exclusion I see as structurally so. But, as I suggested in my earlier message: Let us forget the semantics. You don't seem entirely satisfied by the practise yourself: If so, let us instead focus on how we can solve the problem it causes. / Ternarius (talk) 13:47, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Ternarius Structurally the rule applies to all use of identity and use of identitymarkers. What is policed and enforced is where the expression is seen as negatively normative loaded, as in "nazi" or use of "gay" as slur. Lesbians is neither to happy to be on the list. "666" and "yehova" will some take offensive, identification with "israel" and "gaza" likewise. There is a lot of normative evaluation going on in the "bad"-list. So even if the no .4 rule is removed all of those mentioned will still see a redused coverage. Together with Mohammed. So there is a whole group of legitimate interests wich are subdued. So there is a lot of phobia going on. This normative evaluation of others position will also have to stop. That might be a common interest among the outcasts. Andrez1 (talk) 17:17, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Andrez1 then Ideally what you should do is, you need to start a discussion on this policy and have vote to ratify it or change it, single person opinions are not policy. QueerEcofeminist🌈 15:36, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

I am not in the position to do that as the NO:WP have used an extensive use of blokcing on me, from 2023, whenever unwanted topics are aired. Another one and i suspect a forever-ban. I will not as another Navalnij go for any martyrium. I am not joking when I above states "I belive NO:WP's problem is a culture where matters, editorial and organizational, can not be discussed."

On the other hand, I am grateful for your intervention in the NO:WP in the matter. Whitout outside pressure I belive little will happen as I understand the inner logic in NO:WP to be autocratic and autoritarian, and have been so for some years. Andrez1 (talk) 16:04, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist Reply II: There is already an discussion on NO:WP:TINGET Nye regler for brukernavn? (new rules for usernames?) where one of the premises are this very discussion on @Ternarius User talk:Ternarius. It would not have been started without your intervention. Where that process will end only the future will tell. Andrez1 (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

@Andrez1 great a discussion is good way to start. Will wait and watch. Hopefully it resorts to some community consensus on the policy making. QueerEcofeminist🌈 07:25, 17 February 2026 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist That process is by now to be seen as derailed. This claim: "Jeg ser nå, på m:Global username policy#Unacceptable usernames at politisk ståsted ikke er tillatt, så det punktet må vi fortsatt beholde." (translated via google: "I now see, at m:Global username policy#Unacceptable usernames that political views are not allowed, so we still have to keep that point.")

I find that problematic as the page clearly states it is a "draft" and "The following is a proposed Wikimedia policy. References or links to this page should not describe it as an effective "policy". The proposal is in development, it may still be very experimental, not working as currently described or intended, and could be possibly never finalized."

That "Policy" is then neither mandatory to follow or express any community consensus. Not on Meta, not on NO:WP. It is someones (sofar) failed attempt to make a universal rule.

I find the attempted policy as another try to reduce all expression to a point where not anyone possibly could take any offence. I have mentioned the 2005-7 fear of Muhammed-drawing and woke sensibility before. This is also a trait within multinational corporation to reduce language and cultural expression to the minimum common language.

That erase individuality and diversity and reduse people to their bare function. If wikipedia is to embrace diversity and all knowledge: that is not the way to go. Andrez1 (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2026 (UTC)