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Consider renaming feedback page[edit]

Hi. We could consider renaming this feedback page once the site is no longer a wiki. We use Category:Wikimedia Foundation website, so we could do something similar for this feedback page's title. Or we could say " feedback" to be a bit clearer. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Is there a reason that would be preferable over people leaving comments on the talk page for the Meta-Wiki page about the website? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 03:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
To be clear, I am asking as the future of this page when the new website goes up is being discussed. As of this month we are not monitoring the page, but something may replace it or it may become active again when the new website goes up and the changes to the current wiki installation are completed. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Redirecting Talk:Wikimedia Foundation website here seems more reasonable to me. This page has archives back to 2004, while that talk page has a single edit from about a year ago. This page has been an established and advertised place for feedback about --MZMcBride (talk) 05:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
That seems like a reasonable proposal to me. I do want to be clear that this page will not be linked from the new website. However, I think it is reasonable to setup that method of monitoring community feedback when the new website goes up. What do you think of "Wikimedia Foundation website/Feedback" as a future home? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 05:56, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
There is some irony to an organization that runs Wikipedia not wanted to use a wiki for communications, preferring to use a separate website. Since anyone can leave comments here, I would hope this new website allows the same capability. I also can't help but wonder who the WMF is communicating to and with on this new website. It's obviously not the community, since the community and the readers would more likely leave a comment here or even on Facebook than on some separate website and even then the WMF has not historically been very good at communicating with people anyway unless they are writing donation checks. 2601:5CC:101:5DEB:95BA:D5C3:683C:12E 02:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
More information about the new website and the audiences for it are on the Meta-Wiki page about the update. Specifically the Discovery findings speaks to the audiences and platform for the new site. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Given that Katherine and Heather only really care about the donors that explains a lot. It's also telling that 40 people were interviewed, probably mostly staff and most likely supported the course of this change. That whole document clearly shows that this wasn't a decision driven by a need, but a project looking for a cause. It just looks like another waste of donor money, time for the WMF and another example of how the WMF doesn't really care about the community or the readers, only the donors. 2601:5CC:101:5DEB:95BA:D5C3:683C:12E 22:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your anonymous feedback. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the snarky comment. If you don't like IP editors, then you shouldn't allow IP editing. But it still doesn't show that any effort was made to solicit comments from the volunteers, you know the ones doing the work to keep the projects going or how this benefits the projects. But since this new website isn't on Wiki, and won't be accessible to the volunteer editors, it gives the staffers a reason to hire more people they can control. Clearly this wasn't a very well thought out plan by the WMF but given the lack of volunteer comments here it's obvious to me they either don't know about this new site or don't really care because they know it won't benefit them. 2601:5CC:101:5DEB:95BA:D5C3:683C:12E 02:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
To be fair, your first sentence above ("Given that...") is also pretty snarky. Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation), thanks for the links above. I'd like to give them a read in the next couple of days. Killiondude (talk) 04:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

@Killiondude: You are very welcome. Please let me know if you have questions. I am also available on IRC under my volunteer username handle (Varnent). --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 04:36, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

We could set this up as a redirect to Talk:Wikimedia Foundation website or leave it here for archive purposes. Thoughts? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Wikimedia talk:General disclaimer[edit]

Use less-judiciary style to have it more understandable. 11:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)