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More and more "micro-sites" are being built by WMF outside MediaWiki wikis:,, etc. FWIW, it's revolting, for so many reasons that I won't even start listing them. If someone ever believed the fairy tale that WMF maintains MediaWiki, this probably disproves it forever: WMF is the first and prime boycotter of MediaWiki, now overtly. I wonder if WMF staff, now able to achieve this new kind of fiefdom, will at least reduce their selfish creation of private wikis. --Nemo 10:20, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Terms of Use[edit]

Would it be possible to add section anchors, in order to have reliable internationalised links in multilingual pages? (see mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_administration for explanations).

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Jean-Fred. :) I'll poke legal. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 13:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello Maggie Dennis (WMF), thanks for noticing this and the poking :) Jean-Fred (talk) 00:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Ways to Give[edit]

I find the translation/wording in the Dutch version off on one particular sentence. The English version of the Legacy paragraph states "a donation of any amount", while the Dutch has "een willekeurig bedrag" (a random amount)

Although I don't think a lot of people will believe the amount will be arbitrarily chosen without their approval, the two phrases don't seem interchangeable to me in this instance. Surely something along the lines of "een zelfgekozen bedrag"/"an amount of your own choosing" would be more appropriate and less ambiguous.

Also, seeing some broken link code and overly English terms ("charitatieve" instead of "liefdadigheid") I suspect the entire Dutch version could benefit from some extra attention. OmikronWeapon (talk) 14:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Two absurd notices on wmf:Notices received from search engines#French Wikipedia[edit]

As it has been discussed on the French WP Village Pump ("Une perle" = "A gem", in an ironical sense), notices wmf:File:Fr7RTBF.pdf about fr:Wikipédia:Vandalisme en cours and wmf:File:Fr5RTBF.pdf about fr:Paul Arbaud are absurd, one is the French en:Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and is archived every 4 days, and the other one is a deleted page. The form they suggest to use answers that only the owner of the web site can use it, that is the WMF. Oliv0 (talk) 07:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Tax Deductibility/en[edit]

The page contains two language links to "norsk bokmål" (Norwegian; one form of the two written forms of Norwegian). They both go to the same page. I'm guessing one of those two should be deleted. /15-08-09 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

It could be a bit complicated to fix in a good way. no is Norwegian in general which has two written variants nb and nn. nb is more common. wmf:Tax Deductibility/nb redirects to wmf:Tax Deductibility/no. The redirect may help readers who manually write /nb in the url or search box. The language links are made automatically by wmf:Template:Languages which checks for existence of each language (view source), but the used function #ifexist in wmf:Template:Languages/Lang cannot see whether it's just a redirect. It sees there is both something at /nb and /no, and makes a language link for both. /no pages are apparently assumed to be written in the nb variant norsk bokmål. {{#language:no}} produces: norsk bokmål. {{#language:nb}} produces: norsk bokmål. {{#language:nn}} produces: norsk nynorsk. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:36, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[edit]

In attempting to donate I note that 'Russia' is missing from the 'Europe' and the 'Asia' lists. And no rouble option either..though it be rubble at the moment.

I also have a suggestion that you create an 'opt for English' on any non-English-speaking-country page as I do not read or really understand Russian..though I am learning right now. And although I could cope with being I've been here long enough to be fluent, there must be other people in my position who teach English, as I do, and who are not fluent enough to fill all the data in in their 2nd language.


Robert Green —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monoentendre (talk) 10:57, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Robert. Unfortunately we aren't able to accept donations from Russia at the moment.
Many of our pages have an "In other languages" section, either in the left hand sidebar (for articles) or at the top of the page (for meta pages about donations). Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 13:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Friendly space policy[edit]

It would be helpful to amend "Harassment includes but is not limited to offensive verbal comments related to gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, disability, physical appearance, race, ethnicity, political affiliation, or religion." to add "age". Perhaps also "sex" after "gender". Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 04:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I added "age" in this edit. Given that we already include "gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression," adding "sex" seems like overkill to me. I'd actually prefer if we could find a way to condense the wording. What about replacing "gender identity or expression" with "sex" since we already include sexual orientation and gender? --MZMcBride (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[edit]

thank you very much for the kindness and giving us a experience and learning opportunity inside the great wikimedia. it is really fun and easy but you feel the power and your responsibility because your talking and facing the world. and because where new and some of content are firstime to our ear. if your heart and intention is good i know the system is always in our part to teach us and we make this foundation always stronger and trustworthy... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Afreedomnetwork (talk) 02:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[edit]

I am the son of Jack Coe Senior and you have the birth place where he was born wrong it was not Oklahoma City it was all city Pennsylvania and his death was December 19, 1956 you can contact me at <redacted> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

If you believe that there's something wrong on one of our projects, you are welcome to help fix it! Please see this page for some of the ways you can do this. -- Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 13:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[edit]

Concerning Jack Coe the healing Evangelist Evangelist of the 1950s. You have his birthplace wrong and you have the date of his death. he was not born in Oklahoma City. He was born in oil city Pennsylvania and he died December 19, 1956. I know because I am his only son you can reach me at When you have a donation that is wrong the history is wrong. Jack Coe Jr. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Resolutions#Passed resolution 2015[edit]

Charge section name to plural.

❌ Passed resolution 2015 
✅ Passed resolutions 2015 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Senator2029 (talk) 10:41, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
fixed, thanks. Legoktm (talk) 16:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[edit]

whoy i m not loge in —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pujon6210 (talk) 19:08, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


Look at a map. Opatija is technically northwest of Rijeka, not southwest! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2602:306:31a9:900:9597:1c79:d8c3:8c1f (talk) 07:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

If you believe that there's something wrong on one of our projects, you are welcome to help fix it! Please see this page for some of the ways you can do this. -- Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 13:53, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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I am grateful for the wikipedia foundation & it's website. It has helped educate a great deal about culture, our world & people who have contributed to a better society. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 02byld (talk) 00:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Regarding MediaWiki:Gadget-FundraiserTransHelper.js[edit]

This page is using a very old version of TemplateScript. Please replace the content with the following:

Pathoschild 01:05, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at that Pathoschild! That gadget is actually very old and not needed any longer, all our Fundraising pages have moved since then. I've removed the code and left a note pointing to the more up to date Fundraising/Translation page. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 14:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


I was seriously wanting to donate and was entering my credit card information when I saw the following and quickly backed out. If they really want donations, they need to respect the privacy of donors.

"By donating, you agree to share your personal information with the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that hosts Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, and its service providers pursuant to our donor policy. Wikimedia Foundation and its service providers are located in the United States and in other countries whose privacy laws may not be equivalent to your own. We do not sell or trade your information to anyone." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, and I'm sorry to hear that you were put off. It's simply unavoidable that we need to share some information with our service providers e.g. payment processors, in order to collect donations. We absolutely respect your privacy, and we do not publish, sell, trade, or rent donor data. You can read more in our Donor Policy. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 14:10, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

ttg link:[edit]

saya mau menambahkan:

di link:

Ibnu Al-Arabi di dalam Ahkamul Quran mengatakan:

Tahukah kamu arti Salam? Orang yang mengucapkan Salam itu memberikan pernyataan bahwa kamu tidak terancam dan aman sepenuhnya dari diriku.

Kesimpulannya bahwa Salam berarti:

Mengingat (zikir) Allah SWT. mengingat Allah SWT, zikir kepada Allah SWT Pengingat diri. Ungkapan kasih sayang antar sesama Muslim. Doa yang istimewa. Pernyataan atau pemberitahuan bahwa Anda aman dari bahaya tangan dan lidahku.

Terima kasih dan salam,

Fy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

(apologies for English!) If a certain article has an issue, please feel free to click on the "Edit" button at the top of the article to make the changes you intend to make and save it. Thank you! -- Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 14:12, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


I want colaborate with money, but I don't want to put my CPF in the banc transfer. Why are you asking my CPF ?

MARIA DA GRAÇA BERMAN —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in donating. The Brazilian Taxpayer Number (Cadastro de Pessoa Física), known as CPF, is a database administrated by the Brazilian government that stores information of its registered people. The CPF is a requirement by the Brazilian government for any online transaction. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 14:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Yasuo Satomi jp[edit]

I am looking for a rather remarkable person, living in the area of Tokyo, and named Yasuo Satomi. I believe he is about my age - cca 80 years, and has been active in the environment of design for at least 50 years (like myself). Maaany years ago I had his postal address, but it seems not to be valid anymore. At this point I can not judge whether this - or what it will lead to, would justify any account//login. However it is my conviction that we both - individually or mutually, would be able to contribute to several points in your register. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Search results return old obsolete job postings (T111464)[edit]

See phab:T111464 for details. I mention this here because I don't know where wikimediafoundation administrators hang out. -- SPage (WMF) (talk) 23:34, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Accueil, dead links.[edit]

Links for the nine projects do not function. I suppose "subst:SUBPAGENAME" (that I find in the code of the page, on my side, in the browser) should be resolved before going on line. It doesn’t seem to make sense in a http request. --Dominique Meeùs (talk) 10:57, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Right, wmf:Accueil transcludes wmf:Template:OurProjects/fr which works on the template page but breaks when it's transcluded. A search [1] shows this error exists in several languages. There are currently ten search hits. Some of them are not used but others cause errors, for example on these home pages for languages: wmf:首页, wmf:Κύρια Σελίδα, wmf:Приёмная, wmf:Hoofdpagina, wmf:Portada galega. The errors have been there since edits like [2] to the templates 20 February 2013. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I believe I've fixed all these dead links. However the translated home pages still need a lot of updating. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 16:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Notices received from search engines, mistake ?[edit]


Commons8RTBF.pdf and Commons9RTBF.pdf are for the same Wikimedia Commons page. A mistake ?

Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 12:03, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

This seems to have been corrected since. Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Wikimedia trademarks[edit]

Trademark aside, what is the copyright status of the MediaWiki logo? The Commons descriptions are conflicting. Every other logo has copyright info except this one... which is the most important, IMO, due to it be in the wiki software. 03:46, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

@Mdennis (WMF): Can you shed any light on this? Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:05, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Checking with legal, Peter. :) There's no indication what the license may be at wmf:Wikimedia trademarks. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 20:19, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Legal indicates that the logo was donated to the public domain by its creators, User:Eloquence and User:Anthere. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 20:36, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Maggie! I've added this on the wmf:Wikimedia trademarks page, and put in an edit request to correct the license at commons:File:MediaWiki-notext.svg since it's protected and I don't have admin on Commons. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 16:33, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes we did. Anthere (talk)
I am so glad to see this longtime question resolved -- thank you all! Mdennis (WMF) Anthere Eloquence etc. It would be nice to get clarity on all the logos -- mainly because it will serve as a nice example of the WMF demonstrating permissive behavior around copyright, and not entangling the logos with more legal issues than they need. (Trademark is of course legit, but IMO there is no benefit in attaching a copyright license -- even a free one -- to a logo.) -Pete F (talk) 03:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Terms of Use/pt-br[edit]

I have tried but I have not been able to edit and adjust the name of my aunt, on the main title where her name appears misspelled. That is: her name is spelled with an "y", instead of "í". The correct form is "Lygia", not "Lígia". I know this for a fact, for I am a close relative and know, as well, that this is an important matter for her, who, by the way, is completing 96 years of age, today (I have just spoken with her, congratulating her for her birthday - which she does not like, for her mother deseased on this same day, when she was already in an advanced age). So, please, do adjust her name, on the main section of her page. Any question, please call me: Guilherme Lessa Bastos (mobile phone no.: [+55-21] 9.9992-8217) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Ways to Give/fr[edit]

add the information below in all languages. Some information is missing from certain language

Direct deposit The Wikimedia Foundation can accept money transfers to the following two accounts: US Bank Wikimedia Foundation Citibank 590 Market Street San Francisco, US 94104 415-982-2960 Account numbers: US Domestic Wires ABA/ACH# 321171184 A/C# 203129580 International SWIFT code CITIUS33 A/C# 203129580 European Union Bank Wikimedia Foundation J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, N.A., London 25 Bank Street Canary Wharf London E14 5JP Account number: IBAN GB49CHAS60924241034730 BIC CHASGB2L Moneybookers We have an account at Please send donations to

Mobile Giving Donate using your mobile phone. Text WIKI to 25383 or see here for details. (Available for U.S. carriers only.)

Payroll Deductions Some employers offer an easy and convenient way to give to the Wikimedia Foundation through a payroll deduction. Please check with your organization for availability and send any necessary paper work to:

Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 98204 Washington, DC 20090-8204 USA Note: donations by check are processed directly at our centralized lockbox location which is in Washington, DC.

Combined Federal Campaign The Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. is proud to be on the United States 2009 Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) Charity List as a National/International Independent Organization. Our code is: 61478.

Corporate Matching Gift Matching Gifts are a great, easy way to double or even triple your donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. To learn more about matching gifts or our involvement in the Combined Federal Campaign, please click here.

If you have any further questions, please email —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I didn’t check whether it’s true that not all information is available in all languages, hence just a *ping* for User:Pcoombe (WMF). Regards --Schniggendiller (talk) 09:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[edit]

Of course, bad things happen because, unfortunately, we live in a world where some people try to get away with imposing their will for purely commercial purposes but you have to admit that this only happens in, perhaps, 2 or 3 percent of the articles. However, it is imperative to be vigilant because that cheating can cause great damage to peoples' reputations and even to their lives. De acuerdo? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Roble7.leutwiler (talk) 08:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

See there's a certain internet group thinking they're above the law and they have and profit from others life's earnings Wikipedia has been covering up for these guys so they block us from Editing the truth ,I am urging all victims stand strong i have yet to see the them following through their hearts of us all the more People speak out the more they can't go after us, 1. they hack into others account for illegal scamming. 2.the police want them 3 it's the right thing to do.Is it true or not some of these People blocking are People that scam others for money on your site. these are the one who blocked us but the word is getting out on Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:46, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


Its a pleasure observing effort making from the wikimedia, it gives me pleasure about most important project of wikimedia viewable in the world of the internet, am Jesmion, some time now i googled for something very important but could found the whole details in the project of wikimedia the project of wikimedia displays true details197.211.53.241 18:01, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Tuardanga H.F High School,Assasuni,Satkhira[edit]

can you make me a account for this wiki user name rouge201553 and email me a password —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:18, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Please make a proper request for an account if you are a trusted user and demonstrate a need for an account on the Foundation wiki. Thanks! --Hydriz (talk) 09:40, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


allow people to make a account —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:21, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello! The Foundation wiki is not open for anyone to create an account as it is the public face of the Foundation and the potential for abuse is very high. Please do provide feedback on this page or request an account if you are trusted user. Thanks! --Hydriz (talk) 09:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Terms of Use/de[edit]

Missing verb "enthalten" in

  • "Einstellen oder Verbreiten von Inhalten, die Viren, Schadsoftware, Würmer, Trojanische Pferde, böswilligen Code oder etwas anderes, das unsere technische Infrastruktur, unser System oder die technische Infrastruktur oder das System unserer Benutzer beschädigen könnte;"

should be somewhat like

  • "Einstellen oder Verbreiten von Inhalten, die Viren, Schadsoftware, Würmer, Trojanische Pferde, böswilligen Code oder etwas anderes enthalten, das unsere technische Infrastruktur, unser System oder die technische Infrastruktur oder das System unserer Benutzer beschädigen könnte;"

-- 09:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Home[edit]

this article on the Baptist church is lovely. I would love to visit it.

You must receive much criticism but often praise is the best criticism. It is so important to keep watch since vested interests try to take over innocent articles which should benefit children and be a good influence on them. That is what you do and I thank you. (little rime>>) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Roble7.leutwiler (talk) 08:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[edit]

On your site, (under the subject: "plein air painting"), I had hoped to add a bit of history, how the words "en plein air" had NOT been used in the USA since the 1920s. It is now (2015)in almost every city in the USA...due to the 22 annual advertisements that I set up for the first group: Plein Air Painters of America (PAPA), from 1987>1994. Few places have any of this data, or knowledge of how it was re-introduced in the USA! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bbillups (talk) 20:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Tax Deductibility/fr[edit]


This page is not up-to-date. For French, the donations can be tax deductible, see this page for more information :

Hope this will encourage donation from France. Bye ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andonier (talk) 16:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Tax Deductibility/en[edit]


This page is not up-to-date. For French, the donations can be tax deductible, see this page for more information :

Hope this will encourage donation from France. Bye ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andonier (talk) 21:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


Your current donation campaign is very aggressive and has no style, it looks like you have been hacked. I'd rather you displayed actual ads. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:17, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

You License Freely Your Contributions[edit]

This is not good English. An adverb does not normally go between the verb and the object. "You Freely License Your Contributions" is a better form. --Heron (talk) 09:31, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I mistakenly deleted the address of the page I was commenting on. It's --Heron (talk) 09:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I do agree that the grammar is incorrect. However, I suggest updating Meta's version first and the legal department will sync it over after they check. Thanks! --Hydriz (talk) 04:09, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Link for Dan Andreescu in re: Template:Staff and contractors[edit]

Please add a link to to the {{staff member}} box for Dan Andreescu. I think just

 | link = User:Milimetric_(WMF)

should do it. Thanks!

-- SPage (WMF) (talk) 22:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

User:ALantz (WMF) seems to have done it here. For future reference, that page is protected to even further shrink the population of potential editors. Killiondude (talk) 00:18, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

15d'experiencesurlaPlanèteTerre. Talk:FAQ/fr[edit]

Wikipédia se fout de la gueule des gens. Les "ralisateurs", fondateurs si vous préférez, n'on nullement besoin d'argent, juste envie, ils sont très bien suivis, et les dons réalisés leur suffisent largement. la réelle raison de leur envie d'argent reste très floue, car l'argent ne paye pas l'essentiel : le bonheur. A quoi sert-il de vivre si l'on n'est pas heureux ? J'attend toujours la réponse, cela fait 15 années que je vis sur la terre, et je ne comprend toujours pas pourquoi les gens courent autant après l'argent. Enfin bon autant laisser qu'il laissent leurs place, car on est déjà 7 millions, et là ça devient un peu beaucoup ... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:FAQ/en[edit]

The German version of the FAQ contains much more information than the English version. Could that content not be included in the English version as well? It's useful, and gives donors a better idea what happens with their money. --Andreas JN466 14:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Note though that the German FAQ is more than two years out of date! It describes 2013/2014 as the current year, and still references documents from 2011/2012 rather than their more recent equivalents. This is a live page, linked from the German "Donate now" page. Andreas JN466 14:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
@Jayen466: I have now updated most of the FAQ translations to link to the latest documents. As Maggie said over at Fundraising/2015-16 Fundraising ideas, we are hoping to get a new FAQ page soon. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 17:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Peter. The German page however, as of this writing, still links to documents from a few years ago, including, just based on a quick scan, the 2011/2012 annual report (in this section) and the 2012/2013 annual plan (in this section). --Andreas JN466 17:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the eagle eyes. These should also be fixed now. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 11:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Pleasure, and thanks for the fixes, Peter. There's one sentence in the German, in this section, that's ungrammatical: "Der 2015-16er Plan für postuliert Einnahmen von USD 68,2 Millionen." (The words literally mean, "The 2015-2016 plan for postulates revenue of $68.2 million"). To fix, just delete the word "für" ("for"). Also, the plan actually aims for $73.2 million rather than $68.2 million, as the $68.2 million target doesn't include the $5 million for the endowment (see footnote 5 in the annual plan). To my mind, it would make sense to use the higher figure ("USD 73,2 Millionen"). Good luck with all your work in the run-up to the fundraiser. Andreas JN466 13:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

donation ?[edit]

Will only donate anonymously. Anyone other too ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 15:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in donating. We do collect various personal information from donors, requesting this information best enables us to comply with U.S. laws as well as laws in other countries. Please note that we do not sell or trade donor information with any other organizations or companies. For more information on what information we collect and how we use it, please see our Donor policy.
If you do want an anonymous offline donation option, please consider a postal money order, which may be purchased with cash. If you choose this option, please make it out to 'Wikimedia Foundation' and send to: Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. PO Box 98204, Washington, DC 20090-8204, USA
-- Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Problems donating/de[edit]

Looks like I can't use Amazon to donate. But this page tells it is possible: Would be nice if one could donate using Amazon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

We had a technical issue with Amazon for the past few days. It is now fixed, and Amazon donations have been re-enabled. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 17:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


Every time (or almost every time) Wiki asks for money I'm inclined to donate a small amount say $3 but I'm unable since I'm homeless and I'm not rich. I think I did try at one stage to make a donation via cheque or money order but but it somehow did not happen may be because I was told there would be complications because I'm sending Australian money to a different country. Just letting you know I wish I could support wiki but only in a small way, $3 a mere trifle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 10:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

That's okay, of course we know that not everyone can afford to donate. Thank you so much for thinking of us all the same.
You might also like to know that a monetary donation is not the only way to support Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a wiki, which means that everyone can edit pages and contribute their knowledge. For more information see the Introduction and Tutorial. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 18:31, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


Dear Wiki, I get that when someone famous dies or when a valiant steed dies, that you would post it in the honor of that person. But, why would you honor terrorists?! That is an insult to those who lost their lives of those beasts. It should be that those who died at the hands of those terrorists should be named here instead.

+- bxmo9 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 02:34, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a global project managed by tens of thousands of volunteers from around the world. Many people do not know this, but the Wikimedia Foundation does not control or edit the content of Wikipedia. There is no central editorial board; all edits are made by individual volunteer members of the Wikipedia community
Wikipedia volunteers are strongly focused on the editorial values of non-censorship, neutrality, verifiability, and what we term 'no original research.' Volunteers come from virtually all walks of life and reflect a vast number of viewpoints. All volunteers invested in the quality of Wikipedia are working collectively to build balanced, neutral articles that reflect a variety of perspectives on often complex, high-profile topics. You too can contribute to this process, by editing the articles directly or by participating in an article's talk or discussion page.
For more information about participating directly in Wikipedia, or for more information about how Wikipedia works, please visit Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 18:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Template:PrivacyLang[edit]

Please add

Regarding Home[edit]

THERES A ERROR ON THE HISTORY PAGE SIMPLE.WIKIPEDIA.ORG/WIKI/HISTORY —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer2016 (talk) 11:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Home[edit]


The Wikimedia Foundation does not directly handle article content. Article content is handled by volunteer editors. I copied your comment to en:Talk:Royal_New_Zealand_Navy. Editors who work on that page will review the issue. That might happen right away, but sometimes it takes a long time for an editor to get to a particular article. Alsee (talk) 21:21, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


Wikipedia sure has big balls asking for money all the time... if I did the same, I would be set for life.... BUT you guys are acting like greedy bastards that need a fix. Get a life, get a funding source so you will stop asking the public, WHO I AM SURE is struggling to put food on the table.... and here you are, worried about putting "bytes" online. How about the "bites" that keep HUMANS alive? Who is more important, your freaking WEBSITE or HUMAN LIVES?

Agree --Richardb43 (talk) 04:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding FAQ/en[edit]

In section 3, "What free knowledge projects do you support?", the last link leads to the page WikiLeaks is not a part of Wikipedia, which does not exist. The link should instead lead to Wikipedia:WikiLeaks is not a part of Wikipedia.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:40, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Fixed. Thank you for mentioning it! BTW, you have made the same mistake of producing a broken link in your post ;) --Base (talk) 23:35, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


What are the possibilities of federal funding? Our nation brags about Benjamin Franklin's accomplishments, one of which was to establish free public libraries. It doesn't seem out of reach that public library funding could be shared by Wikipedia. this idea could spread to other free nations who might see the value of this idea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 20:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding : Take one minute to keep Wikipedia Growing[edit]

Next fund raising time, include a "I contributed from another computer" button, so that each time the page is opened, the message isn't displayed and doesn't become a "nag" message.

...and yes, I contributed from another computer and requested matching funds from my employer.

Thanks, Scott —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 23:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:FAQ/en[edit]

Just a note, someone posted this on


So, you are the only one I found to 'reply' to. I just attempted to donate $100 to Wikipedia. (I know, not much.) Your site required my address. Without my giving you my address, I could not proceed. You do not need my address for me to contribute.

Thanks for hearing me out,

Linda Thompson

I'm wondering why email address is needed to make a donation. Please, don't reply to me, but include in the FAQ why an email address is required to donate. Thanks, --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 15:08, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Problems donating[edit]

I refuse to donate money to WikiMedia Foundation. It is holding out it's begging bowl when it is hugely capable of raising it's own money through advertising to those who WANT advertising.. Other organisations are far more in need of my donation.

Please provide relevant advertising to me when I use any of the websites. And use the advertising money to pay for your services. --Richardb43 (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


Why I will never again contribute to Wikipedia

A while ago, perhaps some months, I read something by Wikipedia taking about their new policies regarding transgendered people or I'm not sure, maybe it was the broaderLGBT community. The letter said Wikipedia would give special consideration to try to promote people in that community. When I read that, I decided never to contribute again. Organizations should never brag they will discriminate against me (straight) and then ask me for money. Forget it. In fact, stuff it. -Harry Mason Florida —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 23:27, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Special:UserLogin/signup[edit]

Elin - Türkmenistanda ýerleşýän süýt önümleri öndürýän hususy kärhana bolup durýar.

Regarding DONATIONS[edit]

Hi, I noticed your request for donations and wanted to let you know that I won't donate anything until your moderators allow people to publish genuine and unique content for mature and widely used software.

I produce a free plugin for Arduino used by thousands of people, provide a forum for support and professional documentation. Have I been allowed to create a page on wikimedia? NO, because someone unconnected to me needs to create the page.

Huh! So if I pay someone to create the page for me that's fine but then I shall need to charge for the product. Come on wikimedia! This means that whenever I read any article on your site I wonder which well funded spamming organization has been allowed to create an article.

I am not a spammer and I have proven many times to your moderators that my product is unique and professionally delivered to a wide audience. So what else is missing from this overly censored site?

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I just gave my small donation in response to an email appeal from Wikipedia Foundation. I use Wikipedia almost every day, along with Google. I trust Wikipedia's information that I seek and I appreciate the work of those who maintain the accuracy and THE VAST WIDTH AND DEPTH of information obtainable from Wikipedia - no matter how obscure!

Wikipedia offers all of us one of the greatest online resources - immediately available - to reference, to quote, to search, to enhance our own "knowledge base", that can be accessed online.

Thank you for your service to a world-wide community of users!

Alan N. Reeder

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-- 05:32, 12 December 2015 (UTC)I have already given, but still keep receivng the appeal.


hi, to all. I got my present 🎁 before Christmas, and you are all the way the best "unknown" FB I got, I got one more dream to realize but I will comeback tomorrow. WMERICA GOOD NITE, EUROPE GOOD MORNING, ASIA I believe is morning, African good afternoon, Australia Hi!! From California Central Lest Live in peace and happy, lest star one day by day... Very soon we all going to have what is be designed and most importantly for the good people... I LOVE ❤...! THANKS WIKI! TO HELP ME.

Regarding FAQ/en[edit]

No mention of the expenditure on court cases rather than content production, the reason I no longer donate to the foundation, a reason that could encourage others to donate. Either way, according to the principle of transparency, the FAQ should make it clear that the foundation has recently taken a wider view as to what it considers appropriate expenditure.

Regarding Home[edit]

I tried to look up bio info on Ted Cruz but the page came up as a highly offensive, large double picture of a female part of the reproductive anatomy. Someone needs to do better monitoring of what goes on with Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

The vandalism was reverted and the user blocked. The English Wikipedia has five million articles and is written and maintained by volunteers. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


I have donations, I can't send them unless I can convince someone to make a WP or WM page for saveNatueFREE This is the problem owners can not create a WP page for the site they own. The site I own has been donated to the world since 2003.


Wenn Wikipedia endlich aufhört Daniel Ganser zu verleumden (und andere) werde wir spenden. Bis dahin betrachten wir wikidedia als ÄUSSERST unseriös ! Mit freundlichen Grüßen JanKlenske

Regarding Donor policy/en[edit]

Having sent in a generous donation, it would be nice not to see those persistent ads all over again.


Already contributed. Please discontinue the donation requests. Peter Beckley


Why not sell hard copies of annual, or at least semi-regular editions of a physical Wikipedia encyclopedia, and use that as a way to raise funds, instead of having regular fundraisers, or as a subsistence substitute? You could make products that people would buy, just by compiling what's been contributed to the site - and make money that way.

That's not very environmentally friendly. Wikipedia has over 5 million articles. Killiondude (talk) 23:52, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

My wife donated for us both.[edit]

Can you keep track of family donations? My wife donated $15 her email address is <redacted to history>


I just saw the plea for donations and sent a check. The donation is a small way of saying "Thanks for the good work", and dwarfs utterly in comparison with the valuable info you bring us. Please keep up the good work. I wish you and your entire staff the very best now and forever !!!

Regarding Special:UserLogin/signup[edit]

Greetings, Please consider adding a page about Paul Slavens. He is the lead singer of 10 Hands, a radio personality on NPR in Dallas and a local figure of mention.

Thanks for your consideration.

Namaste, Toni Farris

Regarding Problems donating[edit]

I was going to give, then fields showed up with spanish titles so I then questioned whether or not the request is real and authentic.. so I cancelled. Harvey

Regarding Talk:Home[edit]

Please unsubscribe me from your site and do this immediately!!! I wish to never hear from you again

        Jerry P Devin about donation process[edit]

I just donated to Wikimedia / Wikipedia. At the end of the donation process, I completed the survey. A couple sections of the survey asked for feedback. In one section I did not have a suggestion, but now I have thought of one. I have always been curious about the average donation for various organizations that provide a service to me. The average was provided. It would also be interesting to know and help gauge my donation level if I knew the average donation relative to income range, and maybe relative to estimated usage. It would be nice if public radio and public television would do this too.

Thanks for keeping this amazing enterprise going.

Tony Bolden

Regarding Cancel or change recurring payments/en[edit]

Please add a 'Already donated' button to you Advertisement


Hi Wikepedia,

I would be happy to donate to your public service foundation if you truly were independent and unbiased. Unfortunately, you are neither. You routinely label any information which is remotely conservative as being suspect, using terms such as controversial, right-wing, conspiratorial,etc. But you do not do that for any item which has a more liberal perspective, instead, you treat those as mainstream and the norm (since obviously they agree with your perspective.). So until you decide to be a professional and truly informational site, devoid of emotional additives and letting each subject item speak for itself (so readers can decide for themselves) I cannot contribute to a biased website that openly discriminates toward politically incorrect positions. Wikipedia is simply another mainstream media mouthpiece. I hope this will improve as time goes on, in which case I would be able to contribute in the future. Thank you!

Regarding Talk:FAQ/es[edit]

Hi! I´m a spanish wikipedian and while reading the Wikimedia FAQ in Spanish ( noticed some grammatical mistakes or mistraslations:

It is necessary to change:

  • "proyectos-hemano" by "proyectos hermanos"
  • "estrategicas" by "estratégicas"
  • "leectores" by "lectores" (three times)
  • "intelegentes" by "inteligentes"
  • "mobil" by "móvil"
  • "intelientes" by "inteligentes"
  • "desiciones" by "decisiones" (twice)
  • "traqbajar" by "trabajar"
  • "relacioinada" by "relacionada"
  • " ses bas prioritariamente en donations" by "se basa principalmente en donaciones"
  • "l estatos" by ¿status?

Thanks a lot!

--Javiermes (talk) 08:41, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I just spent like an hour reflowing that page. If you could please give it a fresh look that would be nice. I synced it with the English page. Some of the content I had to translate myself. I'm not a native speaker, so I won't be offended if something is wrong. :) Killiondude (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Wow! Very good job! I´m really thankful!!!!!
In Spanish "Fundación" has female gender so I would say " está afiliada..."
It is necessary to change:
  • "poryectos" by "proyectos",
  • "Necesitamos asegurarse" by "Necesitamos asegurarnos",
  • correct the link to Wikipedia Zero,
  • "Nuestro objetivo es para hacer tan fácil como posible para contribuir... " by "Nuestro objetivo es hacer tan fácil como sea posible contribuir..."
  • "La Fundación portal de estadísticas proporcionan un amplio análisis actualizado que ayudan a comprender el impacto de nuestro trabajo" by "A través del portal de estadísticas, la Fundación proporciona un amplio análisis actualizado que ayuda a comprender el impacto de nuestro trabajo"
Thank you very much. Is really nice to colaborate with people to make this proyect better!!!!--Javiermes (talk) 15:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Muchas gracias. Asegurarnos fue un error horrible que pude ver si yo prestaba atención. Igual con "poryectos". :) Con las dos últimas, me sentía que no fueron bien. Si hay otras páginas con errores me puedes pedir. Killiondude (talk) 05:25, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[edit]

I have a question for you. May you please unlock Jie-Shen Li article (page does not exist) (in Wikimedia)? 21:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Jie-Shen Li[edit]

May you please unblock the article Jie-Shen Li in Wikimedia? Put Y if yes. Put N if no. You choose if you want to put Y or N, but I would think you should put Y. Here you choose. You choose here.

I think you may be misunderstanding the purpose of That web site is the corporate site of the organization that runs Wikipedia; it is not an online encyclopedia itself. I believe there is no reason a page on Jie-Shen Li should exist there (unless there is a different Jie-Shen Li from the one I found through a Yahoo search who, for instance, works for the Wikimedia Foundation). -Pete F (talk) 23:07, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Minutes/2015-09-14[edit]

Why were these updates reported over a phone call rather than distributed in document form ahead of time? Rich Farmbrough 21:24 31 December 2015 (GMT).

Regarding Home article on Ogham[edit]

The article on Ogham has a note that a citation is needed to the origins of Ogham in the Latin alphabet; I have a reliable and respected source for the claim: Anne Ross (1970) Everyday Life of the Pagan Celts. London: Batsford. Unfortunately I have can't find the means of adding it to the article, although I have been on an extensive journey through the Wikipedia links. Can you help please?

Thanks! The reference has been added by User:Dumbledore-of-Awen. Rich Farmbrough 16:58 10 January 2016 (GMT).


I believe a standard safety policy would be in the benefit of Wikipedia AND Wikimedia. Remember : Wikipedia or Wikimedia is not ment to condone violence, but only historical facts which were right at that moment. Even as there are claims as "we do not garantee failures" in some countries these claims are invalid. You see if you are starting or even editing an article but the info you sent and is available for the whole world to see this does not mean you have no responsability or behave like God. I would like this to be added to Wikipedia. To prevent it to be used by criminals who do not care about human life in other religions for example. There should be introduced a special lock on such pages, to prevent wrong information in a widely spread succesfull encyclopedia. Just look up Salafism (for example) and compare Christianity 1400 years ago ? We should be very carefull even on a encyclopedic super initiative ! We embrace life and want to enjoy it together, not destroy it

Regarding Talk:Press releases/Kelly Battles and Arnnon Geshuri join Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees[edit]

So, at the bottom of the press release, it says that "Every month roughly 75,000 people edit Wikipedia". This is probably an error, given that last month 115,000 registered users have edited the English Wikipedia alone in the past month...

(Also, someone should probably fix the link to the feedback page so that it doesn't include the "Talk:" bits. --Yair rand (talk) 19:59, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Good point Yair rand. I'm not comfortable editing a published press release, though. This one should be addressed to the Communications team at WMF. Katherine (WMF), who's the best person to direct concerns like this to? -Pete F (talk) 19:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Peteforsyth and Yair rand. Thanks for flagging. We usually qualify that the 75,000 or 80,000 number refers to active editors. We will take a look and make appropriate clarifications! Katherine (WMF) (talk) 19:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Financial reports[edit]

Where is the 2014-2015 IRS 990 form? NE Ent (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, NE Ent. :) As you probably know, we've just filled the long-vacant CFO seat, but that may not relate to your question. I always look to see when the last one was prepared to give me a clue whether the new one is overdue. The 2013-2014 990 was completed in April 2015. The 2012-2013 990 was completed in April 2014. I suspect we'll be seeing the next 990 in April 2016. :) --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

"Vote:" vs. "Resolution:" pseudo-namespaces on Foundation Wiki[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure where to seek guidance on this. It's a good example, though, of the less-than-diligent curation of the Foundation wiki, which is under discussion at the Wikimedia Foundation transparency gap.

Many pages, e.g. wmf:Vote:Movement accountability standards, use the prefix "Vote:", while others (more of them, I believe, at least in recent history) use the prefix "Resolution:"

Is there any actual difference? Any reason I shouldn't rename all those starting with "Vote:" to "Resolution:"? (And while we're at it -- shouldn't this be an actual namespace, so it could be more easily searchable on its own?) -Pete F (talk) 19:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Pinging Slaporte (WMF) and KFrancis (WMF), two staff who have recently created both "Resolution:" and "Vote:" pages. Is there a meaningful distinction that should be preserved here? If so, maybe there's a good way to document it (e.g. in the category tree)? -Pete F (talk) 03:41, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Delete "current events" page?[edit]

The wmf:Current events page has not bee updated in English since 2012, or in French since 2009. I believe it is entirely redundant of information that is available on Meta and/or on other parts of WMF wiki. (This should be explored more thoroughly, of course.) Should the page be deleted, assuming it contains no unique information? -Pete F (talk) 21:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I added historical template for now. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding DMCA A village in Gandaki, Annapurna Range, Nepal.jpg Takedown[edit]

Should the email-content use <div class='mw-code' style='white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;'><nowiki> as all other DMCA-mails? Josve05a (talk) 01:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Done. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Wikipedia Zero[edit]

Hi, User:CSchloeder (WMF). The lead for this page doe not get to the gist of what Wikipedia Zero is. If I did not already know what it was I would not have been able to figure it out from the lead. Even reading the whole article did not make it crystal clear. I do not monitor the Wikimedia namespace for replies and my Xtools! gadgets interwiki notifier is broken. Cheers! Checkingfax (talk) 08:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding User talk:Jalexander[edit]

Your Victoria Cross entry for Private Ernest SYKES contains an error. By using your external link to Victoria Cross Register at The National Archives ref WO98/8/365 you will see that the error on their website has been corrected on the instructions of the Historian at TNA. Ernest SYKES was awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions on Easter Monday the 9th of April 1917, the first day of the Arras offensive. On the 19th of April the Northumberland Fusiliers were away from the front line, receiving training. I do not know how to make corrections on Wiki, but I am confident that my information is correct. A Sykes(Mrs)


I had enjoyed Wikipedia since its inception. However it has recently become a tool for long winded self publicical auto biographies. Instead of accurate information and positive contributions it is as though all content is written by individuals publicists.More akin to garbage like Ok magazine. Everything the subject does not want included is totally ignored,especially age. It has on one hand diluted expected information and replaced this with long winded self congratuistal drivel. A clean up is desirable. Kind regards Roland Dekker

Regarding Talk:Friendly space policy[edit]

"The Wikimedia Foundation is dedicated to providing a harassment-free venue and conference experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, disability, physical appearance, age, race, ethnicity, political affiliation, national origin, or religion—and not limited to these aspects." Somewhat surprised, therefore, to find meetups being organized in venues that are not accessible for people with mobility difficulties. DrArsenal (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Without an indication of what event you're referring to DrArsenal, it's impossible for anybody to address your concern. Is it an official Wikimedia Foundation event, or one organized by a different organization, or by a group of volunteers? Only in the first case is it directly relevant to this page. -Pete F (talk) 20:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding[edit] an account?

Regarding File talk:Nae Nae Dance.gif[edit]

  • Where is the license and the source? -- 18:36, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
The image is stored on Commons, so you can find the details here. -- Tegel (Talk) 19:26, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Board of Trustees[edit]

It would be great if the little infobox for each member could also specify what type of seat they are holding i.e. founder, chapter/thematic, community, board (appointed) /Lokal Profil (talk) 14:54, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Talk:Cookie statement[edit]

The table is missing many cookies. Also the bit about third party cookies is extremely misleading. I do not think it is proper to redefine the term third party cookie to something other then its usual technical definition, and then claim we don't use third party cookies because of a subtle definition change. Bawolff (talk) 19:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Regarding User talk:Mdennis[edit]

Some consider EDL Islamaphobic, some consider it to be patriotic. That's the real truth. Let people decide. Don't edit the truth.

Regarding Talk:Terms of Use/es[edit]

In the page [3], in "7. Licencia del contenido" the terms "reuso" and "reusar" are wrong Spanish (false friends). There should be used "reutilización" and "reutilizar". Thank you, --PePeEfe (talk) 11:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Hola. Puedes confirmar que está bien ahora? [4] Tambien, se debe usar "reutilizadores"? No me suena bien, pero... Killiondude (talk) 17:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)