Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Categories/Allow multiple entries within each category

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  • Problem: Sometimes, multiple entries within a category would be useful. For instance, on the French wiktionary there is a listing of French verbs that includes both the infinitive form (e.g. aimer) and a pronominal form (s’aimer). But which sort key should be given to the pronominal form? Equally valid arguments apply for a « aimer s » key and a « saimer » key. Ideally, the entry would appear twice in the category, under those two keys. There are other examples, such as proper nouns beginning with a definite article (e.g. Le Mans should be categorised under « Mans Le » and « Le Mans »).
  • Who would benefit: Wiktionaries, other wiki projects.
  • Proposed solution: Possibly add to the wiki software a magic word that can be used to specify a second (third, fourth, etc.) entry in a category’s index. Other wikicode approaches may be possible.
  • More comments: This could be merged with the proposal for Context-dependent sort keys, depending on the technical solution chosen.
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: Urhixidur (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  1. Similar to « Mans Le » and « Le Mans »: Multiple entries will also benefit an international audience to find persons with foreign surnames in the English Wikipedia.
    « Eddy Van Halen » for Chinese which are used to the first part of the name being the surname.
    « Halen, Eddy van » for Dutch used to sorting on the main part of the surname.
    « Van Halen, Eddy » for English and Flemish speakers that interpret 'Van Halen' as surname.
Uwappa (talk) 12:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Voting

  • Support Support Noé (talk) 19:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Urhixidur (talk) 16:06, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support JPxG (talk) 05:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Libcub (talk) 18:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Arielllaura (talk) 21:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Encycloon (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Excellent proposal that makes it even more flexible in the search for articles in a category. WikiFer msg 19:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Kusurija (talk) 19:12, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tuvalkin (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Fixer88 (talk) 09:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support FocalPoint (talk) 16:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ziad Rashad (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Having the same thing show up multiple times in the same category would be a confusing trainwreck, for readers, for editors, and for tools. If you need an additional entry, sorted differently, use a categorized and category-sorted redirect (e.g., with a parenthetical disambiguator).  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  05:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support useful for items that can naturally fit into several categories BradChim (talk) 14:47, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per SMcCandlish — Baidax 💬 17:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)