Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Southern Balochi

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Southern Balochi
submitted verification final decision
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval, will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

marked eligible by User:GerardM on 12 August 2008.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code bcc (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Southern Baluchi Language name in English
Language name بلوچی مکرانی Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q12634001 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Southern Balochi
  • native label (P1705) =
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Baluchi
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = bcc
  • writing system (P282) =
  • number of speakers (P1098) =
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community sultanselim baloch (N) User:RigiMahnoor (N),User:Mostafadaneshvar (N),Mehdi.taajer (N),shaymorid(N), Parthava, Majid (N) , Ibrahim khashrowdi (N)'
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Baluchi alphabet, grammar and music, English to Balochi Dictionary, Ethnologue report on Balochi, Details of the Baluchi language at Omniglot. Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

  • Hello! The speakers of Balochi language and Baloch people in the world really waiting for approved Balochi wikipedia in our native language, we want has Wikipedia site in our language.Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 00:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • It is time to give Baloch people Opportunity to use open contents in their language. -Mostafadaneshvar 23:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Native speakers of Baluchi are willing to contribute to this project in the long-term, hence this project has the potential to flourish like the other Northwestern Iranian language Wikipedia editions such as Gilaki, Mazanderani etc. Therefore the Baluchi language ought to be given the opportunity and priviledge to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 08:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I agree to create Balouchi wikipedia. - Mehdi.taajer 10:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I suppose other Balochi can contribute in this project as well. I mean Baloch from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Oman and U.A.E.Mostafadaneshvar 21:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
    • As the language is Southern Balouchi, people can contribute as long as they contribute in Southern Balouchi. GerardM 18:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
  • it is good to see Balouchi wikipedia i m native balouch from pakistan but i can not write balouchi.i will try to help in other way i have few friends i will ask them to contribute here.
    Khalidkhoso,english-wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.27.192.9 (talk) 10:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Yes, After waiting for about 3 years, Now i hope that we can have this great language of our cousins in wikipedia, Another sister in the cool family of northwestern iranian languages, It would be at least a great source of writen materials in this language for my linguistic friends in germany and sweden, In iran however linguistics think about persian, Unfortunately. --Ali 10:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Support I am a sysop at the Zazaki Wikipediya. Beluchi is spoken by over 5 million people, so I am confident that they will create a successful Wikipedia. --Maviulke12 06:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Support. Balochi is a nothernwest Iranian language. --Asmen 12:16, 16 June 2008 (CET)
  • Strong Support. Its an own language, what is under threat. It must be care --Dersimic 11:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • 'I support you! good luck!(Majid 6937 17:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC))
  • Strong Support: baluchi wiki might be start and this language have similar word with gileki language.--AminSanaei 08:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Some resources:
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mostafadaneshvar (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Balochi language is a legal and most known language and in wikipedia articles in most language like farsi and english ect... expalined about it... i'm favor of balochi and i would like to and request allow us to creat a balochi wikipedia thanks ... “Asghar Baloch 14:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
  • hello. we are baluch and baluchi is one of pastest language in the world and alote of baluch living around the world and they use wikipedia but in wikipedia we dont have baluchi so they use oder wikis in farsi or english or in other languages it necessary wikipedia have a baluchi wikipedia, so baluchs can come to wikipedia AND write alote things and read and study informations, baluchs need the wikipedia baluchi,baluchi is a one of best and usefull language and that uses to translate a other language to other languages we hope wikipedia creat baluchi wikipedia. thank you bashir baluch <<Bashir cfz 17:11, 27 December 2009 (UTC)>>
  • SUPPORT Hello I am Baloch from Afghanistan and I will Support Balochi wikipedia, because the Balochi language is my native language and I am feeling happiness speak and reading with my native language. Now I am working for Balochi wiki [1]

Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 14:37, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Strong this language need the WikiPedia.--Ταπυροι (گپ) 15:00, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
  • 'Strong Support--Kaiyr (talk) 15:06, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
  1. Support as it is a language spoken by several million people. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

"Balochss (talk) 03:25, 20 March 2016 (UTC)”

  • SUPPORT Hi I a baloch people my love is baluchi language. baluchi is the best language in 4 country iran pakistan afghanistan and oman. please create baluchi language project.

Sultanselim baloch (talk) 04:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  1. Oppose - I suggest there should be a discussion on having a single wiki for all the dialects of Baluchi. A speaker said that there are minimal differences. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 07:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
  2. Oppose I support single version of Balochi Wikipedia. Samee (talk) 05:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
  3. Oppose Per Satdeep Gill's argument. We already have lots of similar issues for existing Wikipedia languages related to Iran. For example azb is a dialect of az not another language Amir (talk) 20:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]

The language policy allows for only one language code for Baluchi... given that bcc is chosen, do you agree that you want to have a project for Southern Baluchi ? 08:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we agree. First I suggested "bal" code for starting localizing but it is generic code so we decided to work on "bcc".Mostafa 08:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I was going to comment on that. Maybe it could be labelled as just Baluchi to avoid being restrictive, as a dialect code is basically imposed by a quirk in the ISO code anyway? I'm not familiar enough with the issue to tell whether these are legitimately dialects or languages, though. Circeus 20:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
There is an explicit need to be restrictive in this. GerardM 10:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Why not create a Wikipedia for the Baluchi language as a whole? As far as I have heard, Ethnologue's classification of Pashto and Baluchi as macrolanguages is erroneous. Is Balochi one language or several? I thought it was the former. Saimdusan (talk) 12:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Localisation update[edit]

  • Currently 100.00% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 12:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Observable information[edit]

  • There are currently not enough articles.. The articles that I have seen are of a nice size. Thanks, GerardM 12:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
  • There is also not enough activity. GerardM 12:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)