Talk:Movement Charter/Ratification/Voting

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Voting both individually and on behalf of an Affiliate?

Is the affiliate vote entirely separate from the regular user vote, or will there be problems if a designated user votes their individual ballot and then try to access a link to vote for the affiliate? GreenReaper (talk) 06:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

The affiliate vote is entirely separate and is operated on a separate SecurePoll instance. The affiliate identifies its designated voter, and only that voter has access to the ballot. The individual voting on behalf of the affiliate also has the right to vote as an individual in the global community SecurePoll provided that the individual meets that voting eligibility criteria. Risker (talk) 21:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Change deadline to anywhere on earth

Currently the deadline is set for UTC. Change this to en:Anywhere on Earth.

We are an international community and have had many communication problems on this point. All Wikimedia votes should close on a given day, anywhere on earth. They should never close at one time zone's midnight. Bluerasberry (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

The software underlying SecurePoll is written to allow access to the poll for X number of hours; it is not based on geography or what time it says on a clock somewhere. This is a technical restriction, and it is a pretty standard one for electronic voting systems that are used across all global time zones when it is not possible to verify the exact geographic location and time zone of the voter. SecurePoll is not designed to delve that deeply into the private information of its users, and I suspect most Wikimedians are happy about that. Everyone has exactly the same length of time to vote; we use UTC because it is a universal coordinated time. We could hypothetically use Howlands Island time instead of UTC (i.e., UTC-12), but what would be the point? Risker (talk) 22:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add links to the voting instructions

From the main voting page:

"1. Review the draft Movement Charter." I assume that's Movement Charter, but a direct wikilink here would be helpful.

"3. Learn how to record your vote with SecurePoll." Seriously, that's a step on the list? I'm tempted to be snarky and say, "Learn how to write instructions," but instead I'll ask for a link to some documentation or something.

"4. Go to the SecurePoll voting page and follow the instructions." Please link "SecurePoll voting page" to the SecurePoll voting page.

Thanks! Levivich (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Levivich! Thanks for the questions, and I think we addressed the first two with some minor alterations to the text on the projectpage. The link to the SecurePoll vote will only become available when the voting opens on the 25th of June, but we'll make sure to link that one out as well when it does. (cc: @RamzyM (WMF)) Ciell (talk) 17:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Ciell, those changes are very helpful! Levivich (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Special note on affiliate voting eligibility and participation

(Cross-posted to Talk:Movement Charter)

Affiliates are reminded that they are to submit the information about their designated voter by end of day 24 June 2024. If there are not enough affiliates who have identified their designated voters, it will not be possible to meet the quorum required for the affiliate vote to ratify the Charter.

The Charter Election Commission, in its meeting of 17 June 2024, has decided to modify the eligibility requirement for affiliates. Affiliates who are not listed as "compliant" on the Wikimedia Affiliate Data Portal may instead provide the Charter Election Commission with a link to a published online version of their current annual report.

For the Charter Election Commission, Risker (talk) 18:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)