Talk:Wikimania 2009/Bids/Buenos Aires

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Carbon neutral?[edit]

Will the conference and the flights to it be carbon neutral? -- Jeandré, 2007-10-24t20:43z

The main carbon footprint of the conference will be the air travel to and from Buenos Aires. I imagine it will be up to the individual travelers to see about offsetting their carbon footprint when they buy their tickets. The public transportation within Buenos Aires is quite good and the downtown area itself is highly walkable. Recycling is done by Cartoneros. For the conference itself, we can work to make sure that the amount of resources used in the first place is kept to a minimum. -- User talk:Blmurch, 2008-02-12


Chapter support?[edit]

Is this bid officially supported by a local chapter (or future chapter)? Angela 03:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is supported by Wikimedia Argentina. --Patricio.lorente 13:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


Number of people involved?[edit]

How many people are actively working on this bid? Has there ever been a meetup of Wikimedians in this city? If so, what is the average number of attendees? Angela 03:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Periodic meetings are being held in Buenos Aires since 2005. The average number is 20 wikimedians in every meeting but the people working on this bid is over 30. --Patricio.lorente 13:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
11 "formal" meetups have been take place in Argentina since 2004, 9 of them in Buenos Aires: Wikipedia:Encuentros. Informal meetings aren't publicized because they are set up in just a few hours. As an example, I was in Buenos Aires some time ago and called Patricio at noon to luch together. He called another wikimedian to join us. In just half an hour we were 10 wikimedians in a table :-) --Zuirdj 15:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Size of bid team[edit]

How many people have expressed an interest in specifically working on Wikimania? 30 people are mentioned above -- is the entire chapter membership available to help organize the event? (In Boston, the ratio of people who participated in local wikipedia projects to members of the conference team was ~8:1) Can you list specific people and the aspects of Wikimania they can help with? +sj | help with translation |+ 22:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Samuel, because of this question I've added a simple list of members of the bid team. I hope I didn't forget anyone -someone will correct me if I did. Most of them are active wikimedians, so I 've identified them with their user names from the Spanish Wikipedia. This list contains only members of Wikimedia Argentina involved in the bid (actually, the total members of the chapter is over 60). --Patricio.lorente 00:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Weather[edit]

It's winter in Buenos Aires in August, isn't it? What weather could be expected? --Boivie 09:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's winter time. The average temperature is 12.7º Celsius (54.86º Fahrenheit) with an average minimun of 8.9º C (48.02º F) and a maximun of 17.3º C (63.14º F). There are 8 rainy days per month with a total of 63.2 mm of rainwater, 9 sunny days, and other 9 cloudy. This is one of the less rainy months of the year. Additionally, we are proposing the last days of august because is near the begining of the spring. More weather statistics in the national weather service site. --Patricio.lorente 11:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Expenses and budget[edit]

  • You list the cost of basic food and transportation under a 'budget' section - do you have an idea of the budget for the entire event?
  • 60 USD per night for accomodation is significantly more than the expected average room costs of previous Wikimanias. What is the nearest inexpensive option for housing? Would there be any significant savings if the conference were to reserve an entire hotel?
    • $60 USD is the frontdesk rate on Ibis hotel located in Congreso neighborhood. Proposed Ibis hotel in Corrientes Avenue is still being constructed and we expect to get a great discount from Accor reservating the entire hotel (and many rooms in next-door Novotel for VIP attendees). Also, our plans are to cover 50% of the accommodations with sponsorships. If you like another inexpensive options, you can find many hotels, hostels, guest house and bed&breakfast very near form Centro Cultural San Martin from $14 USD [1] --Zuirdj 22:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I think you should list the costs in Euro as well, since the US dollar is very weak at the moment, and is (as far as I've noted, I'm not an economist) more unstable now than it used to be. Jon Harald Søby 21:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Venue[edit]

A few questions : +sj | help with translation |+ 22:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

  • The conference center is beautiful and the donation of the space is a plus. Does that include technical and A/V support?
  • Wikimania has traditionally had many smaller spaces for people to hang out or give presentations.
  • Are there other smaller rooms for breakout sessions, or halls that could be subdivided with mobile partitions at will?
  • How long would the conference halls be available - could they be used 24 hours a day as a place to hang out?
  • How much time on either end of the conference dates would the space be available for setup and takedown? Thanks,
Samuel, I think Barcex answered this question in the Q&A section. I'm not copying it here to prevent confussions. If you need more details or if something is missing, please, continue this thread there to make it easier to follow up the discussion. Thank you, --Patricio.lorente 18:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I have answered this question on the Q&A page Barcex 18:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


Cost of attendance[edit]

Separate from an explicit budget: how much do you expect a typical community member to spend on attending Wikimania? Feel free to separate travel (which varies by origin), food and lodging (a range), and conference attendance itself (a smaller range; recognizing that this is still a rough estimate).


For good order's sake, please write your questions regarding the event on the Q&A page. Thanks!!

Pls fix the wikimedia logo in your logo :-)[edit]

you're using the old asymmetric logo, which burns the eyes. please use the new logo, which is nice and symmetric.... +sj | help with translation |+ 21:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is not the final logo, we will be changing it a bit. Barcex 14:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)